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  As I didn't want to hijack an existing thread about cannabis and escorting , I decided to start this one.

Even if cannabis has been around for pretty much forever, many use the legalisation as an opportunity to experiment. Many will try under unsafe conditions and underestimate the negative effects. Here a few advices for those who want a positive and safe experience:

 The same way you shouldn't accept a drink from a complete stranger, you shouldn't accept a puff from someone you barely know. It's not because that person smokes it in front of you that it means it's not dangerous for you. Only accept from friends who not only can suggest something safe for you, but able to provide assistance if things go wrong.

  Know what you're taking. There different varieties and not all have the same effects. If you're gonna buy yourself, do your homework. If you get from someone else, make sure they know what you want.

  Don't submit to peer pressure. Being legal doesn't mean it won't affect your capacity to work, drive and travel. If you're gonna try, make sure it won't affect your life and people around you.

  And no matter if a blind date, one night or provider, if a lady tells you she needs a puff to "take the edge off", ask her why. As she's obviously not comfortable with the situation, it's good to know the reasons. Is it a lack of attraction? Feels guilty for some personnal reasons? Or wants to hide symptoms of withdrawal. No matter why, one can either let it happen anyway, cancel it or just talk about it and humanise the situation. The latter doesn't always work, but when it does it's quite satisfying.

   If you also got advices or want to share some personnal experiences, please be free to do so.

  Have all a nice day.

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2 minutes ago, Rambler1980 said:

Do you use cannabis yourself? Not have you tried it, do you use it with any regularity?

  To avoid repeating myself, I already adressed this in my second post of this thread:

  I haven't touch it a lot since that experience.

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There are a lot of good things about cannabis too. Now that recreational cannabis is legal, we will have lots of new(er) products flooding the market. There’s no doubt that both providers and consumers will encounter cannabis at some point. And not just in combustible form. For example, there are oils available to use during intimacy which allow THC to be absorbed though the skin. You can imagine the possibilities... 😉

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Funny got an email from my insurance company today about how cannabis can affect your insurance. This is what they, well my insurance company had to say to it's policy holders (copied and pasted from the email)

Home Insurance

In all provinces except Manitoba and Quebec, you can legally grow up to four cannabis plants on your property for personal use. These four plants are treated the same as any other legal plant on your property and are covered under your Home insurance policy. If you illegally exceed the number of plants allowed in your province or territory, your claim may be denied entirely.

Household members who smoke cannabis aren’t eligible for our non-smoker discount.

Auto insurance

Legislation introduced by the federal government improves roadside screening and implements new charges for driving while impaired by drugs, including cannabis. Driving while under the in fluence of cannabis is illegal and can result in increased auto insurance premiums.

Life insurance

If you use cannabis for medicinal purposes, you may be asked about your medical condition during the life insurance application process. While recreational cannabis use won’t impact your rates, heavy use could cause higher premiums or a declined application.

Anyhow probably everybody's insurance company has similar such policies in effect since the new laws (probably even before the new laws) came into effect.  Given this thread thought I share this portion of my email for information only

RG 

 

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On 10/29/2018 at 11:29 AM, Greenteal said:

And no matter if a blind date, one night or provider, if a lady tells you she needs a puff to "take the edge off", ask her why. As she's obviously not comfortable with the situation, it's good to know the reasons. Is it a lack of attraction? Feels guilty for some personnal reasons? Or wants to hide symptoms of withdrawal. No matter why, one can either let it happen anyway, cancel it or just talk about it and humanise the situation. The latter doesn't always work, but when it does it's quite satisfying.

Geez guys, this is cannabis, not heroin. "Peer pressure...", this is not high school either. Cannabis consumers are not crack dealers trying to get you hooked on their stuff. 

 

Although it would be unprofessional from a provider to light it up during a booking (unless it was pre-agreed between the two of you) you have absolutely no right to ask them (or anyone for that matter) the reason why. That's NONE of your business, and such a personal question is pushing the boundaries, on top of being grossly patronizing. This is a session, not an intervention.

 

Would you be just as intrusive and judgmental if a provider poured herself a glass of wine in your company?

 

How would feel if your provider would start questioning your drinking habit? 

 

The majority of stoners self medicate due to anxiety issues, ones that have absolutely nothing to the with their date. 

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1 hour ago, Genevieve Marceau said:

Geez guys, this is cannabis, not heroin. "Peer pressure...", this is not high school either. Cannabis consumers are not crack dealers trying to get you hooked on their stuff. 

 

Although it would be unprofessional from a provider to light it up during a booking (unless it was pre-agreed between the two of you) you have absolutely no right to ask them (or anyone for that matter) the reason why. That's NONE of your business, and such a personal question is pushing the boundaries, on top of being grossly patronizing. This is a session, not an intervention.

 

Would you be just as intrusive and judgmental if a provider poured herself a glass of wine in your company?

 

How would feel if your provider would start questioning your drinking habit? 

 

The majority of stoners self medicate due to anxiety issues, ones that have absolutely nothing to the with their date. 

  On lyla alone I could find over a hundred stories of grown men pressured into making stupid decisions. Quite far from only a "high school" thing. And it's rarely just cannabis. With many strains and mixes, it's quite confusing and risky for someone curious to experiment. The same common sense is applicable with alcool, as nobody should accept an open drink from a complete stranger.

  As for being judgemental, it all depends on the first impression. If she opens the door with a drink or joint in her hand and the place is a mess, I will quite likely turn around and never look back. But if she's classy, the place is clean and she opens a bottle of wine with my consent, I won't mind sharing a few sips.

 "NONE of my business"? It's my business if on my time. And if I meet a lady while I'm drunk, it would be disrespectful and a denial of service wouldn't be unexpected.

 And if someone has anxiety issues, I prefer they try solving it with a 5 to 10 minute conversation instead of being numb the entire session.

  

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Yeah, I cant say I am a huge fan of how this post was delivered either. Im with the ladies when they say this isnt an overly dangerous drug. As for grown men being pressured, pardon me but they have the ability to say no just as we do.

I am a huge advocate for this beautiful medicine. It has helped me through many things in my life. I am also respectful enough to not be under its influence when not appropriate, like most adults. 

Yes it can have adverse effects on different people, but it is not a providers responsibility to help grown men make right decisions. If you unaware of its effects, or dont know how to consume it properly, then be smart and maybe not try it in a strange environment, or with strange people?

Also consider the possibilty that some of us do know enough about this plant to help you experiance it properly...

Kittens opinion 😉

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53 minutes ago, Kitten said:

Yes it can have adverse effects on different people, but it is not a providers responsibility to help grown men make right decisions. If you unaware of its effects, or dont know how to consume it properly, then be smart and maybe not try it in a strange environment, or with strange people?

Also consider the possibilty that some of us do know enough about this plant to help you experiance it properly...

Kittens opinion 😉

   I NEVER said providers had the responsibility to help and guide grown men on the subject.

   My comments was toward new and inexperienced users and explained the risks involved in consuming products from complete strangers and unknown origins.

   I completely agree that many responsible adults have used it safely for years and know what's good for them. But my comment was never about them.

   In my previous comments, I only criticized providers who can only perform if drunk, high or numb. If some lobbyists are fine with that and want to follow that path, who am I to judge. But hopefully I'm not the only one not comfortable when someone needs to blur reality to enjoy time with me. 

   I'm not anti-cannabis or anti-drugs, but I won't change my life to accommodate someone with an addiction problem.

  

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I can understand how that would make you uncomfortable, but at the same time is could also be what helps other be comfortable as well. I just feel those who are experianced with it, understands it doesnt inhibit most like some think it does. Everything in moderation <3

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37 minutes ago, Kitten said:

I can understand how that would make you uncomfortable, but at the same time is could also be what helps other be comfortable as well. I just feel those who are experianced with it, understands it doesnt inhibit most like some think it does. Everything in moderation ❤️

    What people take recreationally or use to cope with their lives is none of my business. It only becomes a problem when it severely impairs services I pay for. Call me an idealist if you want, but I like when my donations are used to pay the rent, put food on the table, pay student loans and put money aside for rainy days. I won't sponsor self-destructive behavior.

     As long I can meet ladies with honest and healthy lifestyles, I will continue supporting them. Not looking for perfection. Just want someone with a balanced life, can share good chemistry and simple respect.

   Have a nice evening.

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I will be up front and tell you I have never used cannabis or for that matter any illegal drugs.  I have at points in my life consumed alcohol but have not in the last 10 years.

When I make a booking with a lady I expect that both her and I will be of sound mind and in full control of our facilities.  By this I mean that if I turned up for a session and the lady was intoxicated and not acting appropriately I would not stay and I would assume if I turned up the same way she would ask me to leave.

In regards to illegal drugs I do not expect there to be any on the premises during my visit as it places me in legal risk but understand that if the lady does use illegal drugs it would not be evident in any way. If I suspected the lady was addicted to drugs I would not continue with appointment and I assume if I turn up and leave the appearance that I am an addict she will throw me out.

Ok all that said... what about the social usage of legal substances?  I have no right to tell her what to do ... If I turned up and the lady was having a drink but was not inebriated I would not have a problem and frankly I don't see social usage of cannabis any different.  Now if I was to reflect on the many wonderful ladies I have met I am pretty sure that everyone of them would be the perfect host and ask if I minded if she had a drink or a toke and would ask if I wanted one.  But I don't thin I have right to expect that.

I consider myself an adult and only book appointments with adults who I have done my research on so I think I can rely on my good judgement to determine if I should accept a drink or a toke ... I think the ladies feel the same way... many will only accept wine or alcohol if the bottle is unopened especially from someone they are meeting for the first time... they assess the risk and make an adult decision.  I asked a very well known lady on this site if I could bring her a coffee and she paused and offered to meet me for coffee at a place close to her place instead of my bringing one an apologized and said she did not know me well enough yet. When I heard what she had to say I was actually impressed. BTW I brought coffee to our future meetings.

This lifestyle includes Risk both for her and for me and it makes sense to do your research and minimize the risks where possible but let's not blow that up to far... you and her are meeting someone you initially don't know with the hope of SEX ... risk and reward.

As for why a lady has a drink or a toke it frankly is none of my business unless the excess use of the product impacts on the ability to carry through with the booking or places an unacceptable level of risk on the meeting.

For both the lady and the gent this is all about meeting the right person... she screens you and you need to do your homework... do that and I am betting there will. Be few problems... that is my experience over the last 30+ years.

Just my Opinion 

 

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I'm pretty much a daily toker and have been for decades. After work of course. Much prefer it to alcohol. Came to it in my mid-20's and I think pot it's safer and healthier than liquor. I've seen upwards of 30 providers over the decades and I always enjoyed a toke prior to attending, few if any would ever be able to tell. I prefer a bowl or 2 for a nice buzz rather than getting wasted, I also use only sativa's. I have enjoyed a toke with some providers, most often the product has been mine.  Have never had an alcoholic beverage during a visit.

My screening is rigorous, I take my time and because of this have never encountered some one under the influence of chemicals or liquor. 

My personal experience is pot isn't a "gateway" drug. Like liquor or any other intoxicants some people have issues managing their use.

 

My preference would have been decriminalization not legalization due to border issues and now policing issues. Traffic stops for no cause as an example It's almost like pot has been recriminalized. But that's another topic.

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On 10/29/2018 at 11:29 AM, Greenteal said:

  As I didn't want to hijack an existing thread about cannabis and escorting , I decided to start this one.

Even if cannabis has been around for pretty much forever, many use the legalisation as an opportunity to experiment. Many will try under unsafe conditions and underestimate the negative effects. Here a few advices for those who want a positive and safe experience:

 The same way you shouldn't accept a drink from a complete stranger, you shouldn't accept a puff from someone you barely know. It's not because that person smokes it in front of you that it means it's not dangerous for you. Only accept from friends who not only can suggest something safe for you, but able to provide assistance if things go wrong.

  Know what you're taking. There different varieties and not all have the same effects. If you're gonna buy yourself, do your homework. If you get from someone else, make sure they know what you want.

  Don't submit to peer pressure. Being legal doesn't mean it won't affect your capacity to work, drive and travel. If you're gonna try, make sure it won't affect your life and people around you.

  And no matter if a blind date, one night or provider, if a lady tells you she needs a puff to "take the edge off", ask her why. As she's obviously not comfortable with the situation, it's good to know the reasons. Is it a lack of attraction? Feels guilty for some personnal reasons? Or wants to hide symptoms of withdrawal. No matter why, one can either let it happen anyway, cancel it or just talk about it and humanise the situation. The latter doesn't always work, but when it does it's quite satisfying.

   If you also got advices or want to share some personnal experiences, please be free to do so.

  Have all a nice day.

Some people I know use cannabis to manage their anxiety and if that's what they have to do to take "the edge" off, I would think it's better than being do;ed up on valium or anti-anxiety meds.  I am not advocating for Sps to smoke with clients, but obviously you have some preconceived notions about why someone would want to smoke.  I have a feeling you don't have much personal experience, or you wouldn't be posting this.  Just saying.

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6 minutes ago, Mature Angela said:

Some people I know use cannabis to manage their anxiety and if that's what they have to do to take "the edge" off, I would think it's better than being do;ed up on valium or anti-anxiety meds. 

     I got no problems with cannabis as an alternative to harder drugs to treat certain conditions. But when the anxiety is directly or indirectly caused by the occupation or clients, this is where I get a bit uncomfortable.

6 minutes ago, Mature Angela said:

 I am not advocating for Sps to smoke with clients, but obviously you have some preconceived notions about why someone would want to smoke.  I have a feeling you don't have much personal experience, or you wouldn't be posting this.

   I don't deal with the product on a daily basis, but had more than a few direct and indirect contacts with it. Like with alcool use, I got no problems with substances for recreational use. As long users are educated and vigilant about what they take, I'm fine with it. It's only when it becomes a crutch to deal with their occupation or life where it gets unhealthy.

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I don't feel I have any right to enforce my personal choices on others... I personally don't us recreational drugs legal or not but that choice by me may not be right for someone else.

The reasons an individual uses recreational drugs like cannabis or alcohol is frankly none of my business but I would assume a lot of people in all walks of life have a drink or toke to relax especially on challenging days.   It does not mean they hate their work or who they work with I was employed for more then 35 yrs and loved what I did but had many many days when beer at the end of the day was just what I needed.  

If I look at the situation where Drugs or alcohol is being used during employment I think the issue is a very simple one is the ability of the individual to perform their work activities negatively impacted by the activity if it is then it should not occur.  For most jobs having a drink at work would be counter to the performance of the job but that might not be the case of all jobs.... I had a good friend who was a Beer Company rep... he was expected to share a drink with clients.  

The work of an SP is by its very nature very personal and interactive ... it often includes cocktails or dinner before some fun so having a drink or a toke would not seem unreasonable and is certainly not a warning sign in my opinion.  

If either the client or the SP crosses the line into excessive use of drugs or alcohol (ie. Drunk or wasted) then it is a totally different situation.

Like with most things in life moderation and appropriate use is the key.

Just my Opinion 

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On 12/10/2018 at 5:35 PM, Greenteal said:

    What people take recreationally or use to cope with their lives is none of my business. It only becomes a problem when it severely impairs services I pay for. Call me an idealist if you want, but I like when my donations are used to pay the rent, put food on the table, pay student loans and put money aside for rainy days. I won't sponsor self-destructive behavior.

     As long I can meet ladies with honest and healthy lifestyles, I will continue supporting them. Not looking for perfection. Just want someone with a balanced life, can share good chemistry and simple respect.

   Have a nice evening.

It’s none of your business what your donation pays for. And if a client is driving, he shouldn’t  be consuming anything. As for the lady perhaps she could partake  before you arrive if you have a problem with her doing it in front of you

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I use on a daily basis. However, it's my equivalent to a glass of wine and with 30 years of experience I know the effect it has on my body. 

I usually need up to 2 hours to have any interest (being aroused). The after effects varies (depending on quality) but ultimately once aroused, the feeling is almost as if I had taken a quarter of a Viagra. There is a major delay in orgasm which I can honestly say works out better for the partner 😉 

 

I wouldn't recommend it for encounters until after. Nothing like being aware and sober in the moment!

 

 

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I used to be a heavy smoker- hence my screen name, but now I’ll smoke it now and then. Much prefer it to drinking. 

 

Greenteal ive had the odd experience like the one you describe in another thread but it was when I was around people I didn’t know and it gave me anxiety. Sounds like you had a panic attack and yeah they can really mess you up mentally. Weed isn’t for everyone . I find high thc strains can bring on anxiety and usually try to buy a strain mixed with cbd as it provides a good chill . If you ever dip your toe back into the water ask for a strain mixed with cbd at the nslc. Thc between 5-7% and cbd 9% or higher is good . 

The type of high really depends on your headspace at the time. Now I’ll only have a toke if I’m in a good space . 

Ill usually smoke a bowl before any visit . Calms the nerves some. 

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