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https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-escorts/nova-scotia/halifax_downtown_hali_top_classy_girl_with_unreal_body-4653709

 

i saw this girl tonight . Wanted to write this heads up.

 

when I knocked on the door , this muscled guy opened the door and I walked away, but he was all “hey get back here”. 

I went back thinking it was the cops and what am I gonna do , run from the cops? I thought I was busted , for sure . Saw my name in the newspaper as a John and everything haha . 

Turns out he was her “bodyguard” to ward off aggressive guys and lunatics. Is this a legit worry some providers have? Jesus Christ man. 

 

Anyway he said he was taking the money , so I handed him the money and then he pretty much warned me he wasn’t going to be far . He was chill enough , I didn’t get the vibe that he was going to rob me or anything . 

in all my years doing this I never came across anything like this before . 

 

Whats going on here ? 

 

Anyways he left , and I like to think I still have some good left in me, so we just chilled & then I peaced out. 

 

The girl is legit and quite pretty, but I get the vibe something is off here? 

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   Being a "legit worry" for some providers, yes. But I doubt he only did the bodyguard/moneyman thing for her. He's likely taking care of that incall location for a few providers on top of acting as a driver or anything else related to the industry. It's not unusual, but it makes it clear she's not an indy.

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This not something I have ever seen and I would be very upset to walk into this type of situation.

I appreciate the safety issues that SP's face and have no problem with them employing security or a booking agents but I would expect this would be communicated as part of the booking process. 

Just my Opinion 

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@onepound that is very scary. I would have ran away thinking I was gonna get robbed, hurt or blackmailed or something! 

she should have given you a heads up about it !

 

on the other hand if you say that the girl is legit that means she is an instagram model from Halifax 

https://www.instagram.com/paigedins/

 

if you scroll down a bit you will see a pic of her with a masculine guy. That could be her partner.

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It’s been pretty easy to figure out who the “boyfriend/bodyguard/security/pimp” is sitting in the lobby getting an eye on me as I go up to the room

never had one answer the door before.  

Makes me think the girl may not be there of her own free will and is being forced into the job.   I don’t like that

some girls say they have a guy for security but you wonder if it’s not more of a pimp taking all her money

i prefer to go to well established and well reviewed escorts for these reasons

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44 minutes ago, fresh said:

It’s been pretty easy to figure out who the “boyfriend/bodyguard/security/pimp” is sitting in the lobby getting an eye on me as I go up to the room

never had one answer the door before.  

Makes me think the girl may not be there of her own free will and is being forced into the job.   I don’t like that

some girls say they have a guy for security but you wonder if it’s not more of a pimp taking all her money

i prefer to go to well established and well reviewed escorts for these reasons

 

Yeah I find it’s weighed on my mind after the fact. Its a bit of the Wild West out there. Makes you take a step back .  

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11 hours ago, Hades said:

@onepound that is very scary. I would have ran away thinking I was gonna get robbed, hurt or blackmailed or something! 

she should have given you a heads up about it !

 

on the other hand if you say that the girl is legit that means she is an instagram model from Halifax 

https://www.instagram.com/paigedins/

 

if you scroll down a bit you will see a pic of her with a masculine guy. That could be her partner.

 

Hey - yeah that’s definitely her. The incall location was a nice hotel downtown Halifax . So I wasn’t too worried about being robbed or beaten up or whatever, I’m sure the last thing they would want is a loud ruckus going on with tons of families and people around , haha. My main worry was that it was the cops . 

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This sounds to me like a couple who needs some cash and have recently thrown their hat into the escorting ring.  I've never seen her advertise before.  With only 13.5k followers on Insta, her dream of being an InstaStar has come crashing down - on to plan B I guess.

 

I say they are new at this because even the most green "pimp" knows to stay hidden; and, conversely, an escort knows to never let him be seen.  The appearance of support/protection THAT in you face has to be a sign of lack of knowledge how the game works and, ultimately, a major fear coming from the girl (suggesting this may be her first time).   In other words, she won't/can't work unless her BF (which it looks like he is) is literally RIGHT there.

 

Also, I believe "independent" really comes down whether or not the girl keeps 100% of her earnings.  If she is not paying anyone for drives/protection, etc, she would fall in the independent category.  I personally have a couple friends who I get rooms for/drive to work/calls/Shoppers for "escort stuff", be knowledgeable of what room they are in during outcalls, etc., yet, they are actual true friends and I do what I do to help.  Being there for them AND asking for a % of what they made that day is not trying to help - that is literally living of the avails of an escort.

 

I know if a "helper" (let's just call him that for now) is seen by a client, it's a very, very BAD thing. 

1) Chances are the client is never coming back

2) some clients will actually ask for a refund, etc. (if they didn't physically hand money to some guy - which, again, is SUPER rare to have happen). 

 

There was once incident where I was supposed to pick up a friend after she was done working.  She was done at at certain time and, usually, I would just text to say I was on my way and then show up.  This day, her phone died just after we had talked, but she still snagged one more call, but I did not know that.  As I got close to picking her up, there were no more replies to my texts - no replies once I was there.  I got worried and made the mistake of going up to her room to check things out.  On my way up the stairs (I never take elevators), I ran into her (she had taken a smoke break) .....but I only saw her at first and started with the whole ".....Why didn't u answer your phone - I have been texting..."- and just as I was asking that, the client followed behind up the steps - he heard the whole thing and probably thought the worst.  He was obviously shaken by my presence and made a bee-line straight to the room as my friend explained to me her phone had died.

 

When she got to the room, he wanted to just end the call at first (and he was a regular), but she ended up giving him a large discount to keep him calm/get him to come back.  She was PISSED at my mistake.

 

So......ya.....being an escort and allowing clients to physically see your "helper" is a huge rookie error, and even rookies don't usually make that mistake.

 

EDIT - I just saw she started advertising recently and her first set of ads were for selling panties.  So, I guess that was originally plan B, but when that failed, they took the plunge.   I've seen this before - they start out trying to do Facetime/Skype, then try to sell pics, then panties, etc., then when none of that generates enough interest, time to try the whole Enchilada! 

 

 

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Yes, that was the vibe I had gotten. She mentioned being new to this, and heard stories about aggressive guys and what not and that’s why he was there in a bodyguard role. 

 

After reflecting on the situation, that was what I came up with - they are new and have literally no idea how this works. 

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Seems that way - sadly, it looks like she could do well (depending on her service too I guess); but making that huge mistake right from the start will quickly kill any interest in her/keep guys from ever coming back.

 

Hopefully (but doubtful) she and the BF read this figure out a different strategy or do things differently if they make another attempt at this down the road. 

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It's certainly surprising to see someone with 13K insta followers, peddling supplements there (seems to have been sponsored) and apparently having some measure of success building their brand, will pivot to escorting and posting face pics like that on LL. It could come back to haunt her. I'm surprised someone who seems to understand well how to use social media would post a face pic in their escort ad... 

 

I agree with everything Leviathan said above, only one thing: I don't think a SW paying for a driver makes her less independent. Surely, a lady on this board could give better insight than me, but I see it as a normal expense of an independent business, the same way someone with an home office would pay to set up an internet connection or buy a printer. It's not exactly a percentage of her income, more of an expense like the cost of the room. Otherwise, spot on.

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2 hours ago, DyatlovPass said:

It's certainly surprising to see someone with 13K insta followers, peddling supplements there (seems to have been sponsored) and apparently having some measure of success building their brand, will pivot to escorting and posting face pics like that on LL. It could come back to haunt her. I'm surprised someone who seems to understand well how to use social media would post a face pic in their escort ad... 

 

It's either a sign she has given up or they need rent money STAT (my guess).  In looking over her Instagram, it looks like she recently moved here from NB and there are some shots of her in an empty apartment (new place in Hali?).  She doesn't appear to be living a slum life, so my guess is this lil' adventure into the world of escorting is perhaps a one-time deal to get quick $$.  At the rate she is asking, she only needed 3-4 calls over the weekend to probably get the money they need. 

 

As for her having 13.5k followers, that puts a loooong way from where she was probably hoping to be...

 

Celebrities: 1M +

Mega Influencers: 250K - 1M

Large: 100K - 250K

Medium: 50K - 100K

Small: 10K - 50K

Micro Influencers: 1K - 10K

 

I mean, Micro Influencer isn't that bad, but with a body/lifestyle like that, I'm sure she had the big dream of being higher on that list.

 

 

2 hours ago, DyatlovPass said:

I agree with everything Leviathan said above, only one thing: I don't think a SW paying for a driver makes her less independent. Surely, a lady on this board could give better insight than me, but I see it as a normal expense of an independent business, the same way someone with an home office would pay to set up an internet connection or buy a printer. It's not exactly a percentage of her income, more of an expense like the cost of the room. Otherwise, spot on.

 

Yes, I agree - getting drives/paying for drives isn't too bad, it's when they are giving cuts of profits is where it gets iffy.  🙂

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   I don't see the point of overanalysing someone's motivation to work in the adult industry. No matter if erotic/fetish modeling, cam girl, porn, SP, MA or specialized services, women will rarely make it big and stick to a single thing. As for her relationship with the bodyguard, it's a bit irrelevant. I also prefer dealing directly with providers. But having dealt with agencies for over a decade, interactions with doormen, drivers and madams was something that happened more than once. Sometimes it's due to safety concerns for certain ladies and others are related for a local turf war. If a deal breaker or not will depend on the circumstances.

   If the service is acceptable and there's no signs of fraud or intimidation, I don't see reasons to add more.

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I would advise passing on said girl, high cost, not well known, and the bodyguard being right there, what would have happened if you didn't turn back around? Would he have followed you to the elevator? Either way, thanks for the heads up.

I believe this was the second post in relation to her and suffice to say I do hope she isn't in this business long, such a situation would be very alarming as someone who was almost robbed in a similar setting.

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I think now that she is safe I would go to see her even if I had to hand the money to some dude

but I am a few provinces away.  Lol

but for any of you out there why don’t you suggest some ways she could maybe leave the dude out of the scenario.   

(He could still be near by.  To tell the truth if I was a girl in this business I would probably have some kind of panic button to signal for help. Most of us are good.  But there could be a cereal killer amongst us)

but she could join and advertise here on lyla and this check out if her potential clients are regular good standing members of this board. 

And beyond that she could also ask for references     Although I have never gone to see any providers who wanted that extreme.  But if she’s worried about safety those two things could provide some peace of mind.  

It’s kind of why Uber is better than taxis.  There is accountability and reputation at stake for driver and rider.  

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8 hours ago, jeffanders22 said:

I would advise passing on said girl, high cost, not well known, and the bodyguard being right there, what would have happened if you didn't turn back around? Would he have followed you to the elevator? Either way, thanks for the heads up.

I believe this was the second post in relation to her and suffice to say I do hope she isn't in this business long, such a situation would be very alarming as someone who was almost robbed in a similar setting.

   Would recommend to read the entire thread instead of overreacting with "what if?" scenarios.

 She's a young attractive woman not afraid to show her face on her ad and social media account. With the real possibility of attracting stalkers and sexual predators, I don't see anything unreasonable in having someone act as a bodyguard and adviser. If the location was in an isolated or bad part of town, yes there should have been reasons for concerns. But in a nice downtown hotel, chances of getting robbed are quite minimal. 

  As for "not well known", I don't see the problem with that. We're seeing her explore different aspect of the adult industry and it's up to her to decide what's she wants to do with her life. With the numerous threads about fake pics, this should be opportunity to experience something real instead of nitpicking personal safety.

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  I dont know how to feel about onepound's encounter, i understand his concern, and hope that someone has showed her the thread to give her a chance to clarify, someone mentioned that maybe she's new to this and simply doesnt realize this isn't the norm. It's possible! I know when I first started I could have easily made that same mistake of hiring a bodyguard, being so nervous after hearing horror stories about others! 

 

    Theres a lot of assumptions here, pimp, bf/pimp, dreams of becoming famous on Instagram, shes escorting because "she gave up on life" or is in desperate need of rent money. We can't really say what we don't know , and I can personally say that not all escorts are escorts because we gave up on life or because we are in desperate need of money for rent, that is a huge misconception. From her Instagram I saw no boyfriend, just a male model posing with her in a professional photo a while back. There is nothing suggesting that this could be her pimp or boyfriend so I'm surprised that was brought up here. 

 

   Again, I hope she explains herself as assuming things that we don't know to be true will only add fuel to the fire.

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31 minutes ago, MelanieMys said:

 I know when I first started I could have easily made that same mistake of hiring a bodyguard, being so nervous after hearing horror stories about others! 

    I don't see the use of a bodyguard as a problem or mistake. It's just a question of giving a heads up before the meeting.

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I don't care who he was. Starting an encounter with intimidation and implied threats from a 'muscled guy' is not my idea of a good time. I'm out! 😉

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Thanks for the heads up onepond!

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7 minutes ago, Mikeyboy said:

I don't care who he was. Starting an encounter with intimidation and implied threats from a 'muscled guy' is not my idea of a good time. I'm out! 😉

 

  Do you feel intimidated and threatened by every doormen of bars and adult establishments?

  I lived the 90's when the trade was controlled by a certain motorcycle organization. I never felt threatened, but their presence was a solid reminder to respect the ladies. 

  There was maybe a small communication failure, but it shouldn't be confused with intimidation.

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On 1/26/2019 at 11:35 PM, onepound said:

...and then he pretty much warned me he wasn’t going to be far....

 

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On 1/26/2019 at 10:35 PM, onepound said:

 ...and then he pretty much warned me he wasn’t going to be far ….

So..... he's Captain Obvious?

 

 

 

 

 

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