How to: Verify pics, ads and identify potential fraud.

[Greenteal 41749]

On 2/20/2021 at 1:34 AM, kolo0 said:

Yeah it's not her the main problem, it's just that since I was new, I thought 15 minutes, half hour or an hour meant you can do whatever you want for the alloted time. I didn't think you had to leave if you came.

    When speaking of sessions length, providers have different  interpretations on how the time in managed and what services are offered. Reasons why those details should be discussed before the session.

    But for 15 min, the general consensus is a quick minimalistic release.

[Guest bigdave0]

Very useful post and tips. Bait and switch is one thing, but there are also scammers out there who take money and provide no service, those are harder to identify via ads alone. Searching on MP/SP forums is definitely a life-saver in this case

[Greenteal 41749]

  NO MATTER WHAT SOMEONE DOES FOR A LIVING, ALL DESERVE A PRIVATE LIFE.

When searching for info, you sometimes find little to none or just enough to make a decision.

But on occasions can find a lot! Often the resort of multiple social media account and poor management of professional/trade related and private information. Even when well divided, it only take a picture, email, phone number or other to connect and completely expose someone.

 No matter if intentional or the result of negligence, this is not a reason to dox someone. If you stumble into private information, you can contact and inform that person about it. If you want to post a warning, keep it trade related.

 It's often tempting to dive into "rabbit holes" to see what's out there, but rarely rewarding. Stick to the information you need and move on.

[Greenteal 41749]

Hint on LL,

When investigating an ad/profile, look at the bottom for "More Ads from this User". Can sometimes find useful details like alternative contact information, if this person advertises in multiple location at the same time or part of a group/agency.

 

[Kyle101 1]

Hi, thanks for those steps. I'm a newbie in this world and I'm always scared to be scam 🤦 I'll follow those recommendations, I didn't even know we can google pictures tbh

[JackJack 23]

Been hearing about allot of scams lately and its been putting me off.

Must be frustrating for those trying to be legit.

 

[This Sux 0]

On 7/19/2021 at 6:18 AM, Guest bigdave0 said:

Very useful post and tips. Bait and switch is one thing, but there are also scammers out there who take money and provide no service, those are harder to identify via ads alone. Searching on MP/SP forums is definitely a life-saver in this case

Is there anything you can do if you get scammed? Or are you just eating that L?

[Greenteal 41749]

8 hours ago, This Sux said:

Is there anything you can do if you get scammed? Or are you just eating that L?

   In the context of purchasing adult services, there not much you can do. You can seek legal advices if victim of assault or other major crime. But some circumstances may end up incriminating yourself if you report to law enforcement.

   Better to learn from your mistakes and avoid repeating.

   Do your research and stick with recommended and well reviewed providers.

   

[Janebondage 2219]

On 5/23/2020 at 4:01 AM, Lightskinlatin said:

Somethin happen to me while back i never told anyone about stings. Make sure the number is only for said girl. I didnt and found same number used for like 20 girls why.......

 

I wenr to meet a girl at hôtel and she act shady and made me feel weird. Instead of room numb to come up so told me.to wait front of lobby amd she hop in my ride first?? Never heard that before..... When i said i was there she asked which car? I seen a jeep tj in front lot by doors and i was mayne 2 cars away in my dodge truck

 

Many girls lie with pics etc and i had weird feeling so i said jeep. Nobody comes out then boom !!! Rcmp truck outta no where comes and pulls out jeep driver. My heart dropped and reversrd and got hell out of there.

 

Put number i used in keywords and seen they used samw number for likr 20 diff ads here in Winnipeg. A sex charge regardless if just a john is some thing none of us need lol be safe out there some of these girls lie cheat and steal

 

I am dying wondering what the poor fucker in the Jeep went  through. 😂

[Janebondage 2219]

I actually don’t think stock photos are okay for people. Sure if your trying to set a vibe in a blog or something but but for these services. 

Well pro photos might be expensive, we all seem to have a 📱  with a camera. Tats can always be removed via editing and there are phone and software apps you can purchase if needing that on the regular. 
I don’t see a reason for it myself. 

 

[Greenteal 41749]

4 hours ago, Janebondage said:

I am dying wondering what the poor fucker in the Jeep went  through. 😂

  Would take that story with a grain of salt.

That member joined May 2020, posted once and never came back. Many aspects of his story are quite questionable. I doubt anyone was wrongly arrested unless there far more to it.

[Greenteal 41749]

5 hours ago, Janebondage said:

I actually don’t think stock photos are okay for people. Sure if your trying to set a vibe in a blog or something but but for these services. 

Well pro photos might be expensive, we all seem to have a 📱  with a camera. Tats can always be removed via editing and there are phone and software apps you can purchase if needing that on the regular. 
I don’t see a reason for it myself. 

 

     I also prefer honest descriptions.

 But if the pictures are representative enough and not used for deceptive purposes, I'm fine  with those.

[sexydanielle1111 1]

is it easy to get verified and be legit is it hard for male escorts so far ive had one client and seen him 3 times

[Sugar Kayne 244]

On 3/1/2022 at 5:37 PM, sexydanielle1111 said:

is it easy to get verified and be legit is it hard for male escorts so far ive had one client and seen him 3 times

 

There is so little info out there. An interview was done of one male escort going by the name of Sam Gaines. Try giving that a good read? 

You may have better luck getting a good answer to this if you repost in the main area of the new to this section https://www.lyla.ch/forum/157-new-to-this-things-you-should-know/) , or even the discussion section of your local area.

 

[Sexy Rayne 0]

On 6/1/2020 at 12:39 PM, Jasmine Rain said:

I still don't get why it is okay to use pics that are not you. I just don't. I get wanting privacy, so don't show your face. Even more nervous, show close ups only. Edit tattoos, take them out, etc. 

You can post your own pics and keep your identity private. 

Some of us other escorts would be given hell if we used fake pics. 

There are guys in Ottawa trying to make a trend of asking for proof of pics because so many use fake ones. It hurts the over all industry. And accepting that and not calling it out promoting it in a way, hurts the industry as well. IMHO

I agree with jasmine. Why is it ok to use fair photos? It has nothing to do with a girl wanting to keep her  identity private, it's more than likely they are uncomfortable or don't like their own photos ex maybe they are over weight or don't feel as pretty  when compared to photos of other girls. Incense you are allowing that girl to lie about her looks, which makes all of our jobs that much harder as clients have every right to be leary on if any of the photos are real! So when a website has a verified section that confirms that the person in the pictures are the girl that is going to be the exact same girl that shows up for the date but that's not true at all. Why have a verified section at all? Why even have it if it isn't going to do as it says? Just one more thing to make actually legit escorts jobs that much harder, I thought it was suppose to make our jobs a little easier and help reassure the gentlemen looking for companionship???? Am i wrong. Another thing just because a client puts a review up on any site does not mean thst they are telling the truth, I have had an ex and a stalker post nasty reviews about me just to hurt me financially and the girl that is being slandered all over the internet doesn't even get a chance to verify what is being said is true let alone that it even happened. I have even had jealous girls put fake reviews about me up. I think any review going up anywhere for any business should be verified and the other party be given a chance to tell their side of the incident before it ever goes anywhere. 

[Greenteal 41749]

1 hour ago, Sexy Rayne said:

Why is it ok to use fair photos? It has nothing to do with a girl wanting to keep her  identity private, it's more than likely they are uncomfortable or don't like their own photos ex maybe they are over weight or don't feel as pretty  when compared to photos of other girls. Incense you are allowing that girl to lie about her looks, which makes all of our jobs that much harder as clients have every right to be leary on if any of the photos are real! So when a website has a verified section that confirms that the person in the pictures are the girl that is going to be the exact same girl that shows up for the date but that's not true at all. Why have a verified section at all?

     The key question is more if the general description/stats and images are a good representation of reality. On several occasions, seen stock pics that were far more accurate than real edited or outdated pictures.

     As for the "verified" status, the criteria's are quite minimalistic. Can be used as a baseline, but not necessarily at face value.

1 hour ago, Sexy Rayne said:

Am i wrong. Another thing just because a client puts a review up on any site does not mean thst they are telling the truth, I have had an ex and a stalker post nasty reviews about me just to hurt me financially and the girl that is being slandered all over the internet doesn't even get a chance to verify what is being said is true let alone that it even happened. I have even had jealous girls put fake reviews about me up. I think any review going up anywhere for any business should be verified and the other party be given a chance to tell their side of the incident before it ever goes anywhere. 

     For the time being, this website doesn't allow negative and explicit reviews. The only exceptions are far the "warning" sections, but only to flag  fraudulent and dangerous behavior.

     Not every profiles, posts, recommendations and ads will be completely accurate. Communicating with members via private messaging is a good way to confirm some details and learn about quicks that can't be publicly discussed.

      This and other message boards should be used as reference tools. Nothing more. 

      Do your homework and stay safe.

[playboyinmontreal 0]

Few tips from my side:

 

1) Avoid paying in Crypto

2) Avoid Paying in Gift cards

 

Stay away from those ads

[Greenteal 41749]

On 5/13/2022 at 1:18 PM, playboyinmontreal said:

Few tips from my side:

 

1) Avoid paying in Crypto

2) Avoid Paying in Gift cards

 

Stay away from those ads

No matter the payment method, priority should be to establish the legitimacy/credibility of the person/business you're dealing with.

If you meet or send money to someone without knowledge of their professional reputation, you can potentially lose a lot.

Do your homework. 

[Greenteal 41749]

    As many struggle to analyze LL ads, here something to help:

    I divided a typical ad in 4 parts:

    1. The Hook:

        This is sadly where too many will focus their attention to and make bad decisions. Sometimes contain useful information, but quite often clickbait material only.

    2. The details:

        This is where you should get a better understanding of services offered or anything else worth mentioning. 

    3. Other ads from user:

         When present, this is where it gets interesting as we can connect the dots and see who we're dealing with. Can provide useful information, but can also expose "schedule conflicts" in other cities or business relationships with people or groups you rather avoid.

    4. Contact infos:

         In my opinion, the most important part. This is where we should see phone, email, webpage or social media account. This is quite often where you can see someone is real or not. Being empty shouldn't be immediately interpreted as "fake", but doesn't give much to work with. 

       

[George1387 2]

I also wanted to mention that you cannot expect a potential service provider to be using their real phone numbers so do not be put off if they are using a voip app or alternative phone number, many of them have families and children and day jobs! It's kind of a necessity. I always ask for a simple customized self photo with a piece of paper with my name on it and so far that hasn't failed me yet. And if they will talk to you on the phone that is always a bonus. I've even had some offer their social media accounts for verification, one provider even had booking dot com email me a copy of her hotel reservation and I found that was very thoughtful. So there are many methods of verification. Be careful out there guys and girls!

[Greenteal 41749]

For those who still struggle to use Google Images and Yandex Images: search for images online or search by image , here in simple steps (First 3 for Google, last two for Yandex):