Preferred Customer Status

[NotchJohnson 214065]

Not wanting to speak for NJ, but I think he means if a lady is about to do a tour for example, before publicly posting dates of the tour on a board (like CERB) she would contact her preferred customers of the upcoming tour, so they could schedule an encounter with her first.

RG

Thanks RG, this is exactly what I meant, again with no pressure on the guy. I'm sure this is already being done since I have tried to reserve a spot with a traveling lady once right after she posted on CERB and she was already booked for a few of my time requested. I'm sure she does not only post on CERB but I am not aware of any other site as good as this one and don't follow them.

[Guest t**obb****]

The way I see it is that any business competes.

Common strategies are:

Differentiated, or low cost and

Widely or focused.

 

If a SP travels and charges a premium rate, that's differentiated and wide.

If a SP is local and doesn't screen with a standard rate, that's focused and low cost.

If a SP is local and changes a premuim rate, thats focused differentiated.

 

The reason I say this, is that if you are focused and differentiated, it means you want to compete on providing superior service to a specific clientele.

In these markets businesses often develop business relationships to ensure they are providing the best service to the customer for a value.

This could mean extra accommodation, quick bookings etc.

 

If someone competes on focused low cost, they want volume to make their business work. In this case, a discount could be provided when bought in bulk.

ie. $x,000 of services in a period paid up front on some guaranteed schedule.

At an extreme case, its like Wal-Mart selling Persians ( a type of pastry specific to Thunder Bay) which is focused and supplied at a lower cost than the local bakerys sell it for.

 

I know we are people, but again these are business services.

I just want to say that many successful service businesses entertain these models to stay competitive.

Competing with more than one strategy often leads to failure.

[craig101 3213]

In many industries customer loyalty is rewarded. If I stay at the same golf course they give me rebate. If I get 3 year phone contact they give me a deal. I could give a 100 more examples but won't! lol I don't think a lady should be disappointed if a long time regular asks for a rebate. If a guy sees a girl 4 times a month I don't see anything rude about asking for a discount. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the ladies here and hope I'm not offending anyone. I love you all! Just curious why some people think this industry is different then any other.

[Guest S**a*Q]

To ensure the success of your business, Treat everyone like they were your only client.

 

That's what I told all my staff when I was a manager and that same policy does apply very well to this business as well.

 

I don't play favourites, as you never know what's going to happen in the future.

[roamingguy 300291]

To ensure the success of your business, Treat everyone like they were your only client.

 

That's what I told all my staff when I was a manager and that same policy does apply very well to this business as well.

 

I don't play favourites, as you never know what's going to happen in the future.

 

Exactly. The time a gentleman spends with a lady, even for the first time, should feel special for that gentleman. If he sees her again, and becomes a regular, and a "relationship" (for lack of a better word) develops, that in and of itself should be the only reward. He shouldn't expect discounts, only that he is going to meet a lady he knows and likes. He has to also be aware at the same time that he isn't the only client, (and she will treat her other clients the same) and this is the lady's livelihood, and respect that, just as she should respect he may be seeing other escorts

Hope that comes out right

RG

 

Additional Comments:

In many industries customer loyalty is rewarded. If I stay at the same golf course they give me rebate. If I get 3 year phone contact they give me a deal. I could give a 100 more examples but won't! lol I don't think a lady should be disappointed if a long time regular asks for a rebate. If a guy sees a girl 4 times a month I don't see anything rude about asking for a discount. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the ladies here and hope I'm not offending anyone. I love you all! Just curious why some people think this industry is different then any other.

 

Because this is like no other industry. What other industry (and term only used because you used it) involves just two (ok, maybe three) people alone together intimately. And sharing things that they may be afraid to share with their so's/gf's. And if you were on a board about another industry posting comments about it, you wouldn't use the phrase I love you all.

If, and if a lady wants to provide preferred customer status to a client, it's up to her, but a client, new or repeat shouldn't expect or request it. He should, IMHO want to see that lady just because he wants to see her, not because he expects a discount at some future date

As I see it

RG

[Guest S**a*Q]

To ensure the success of your business, Treat everyone like they were your only client.

 

That's what I told all my staff when I was a manager and that same policy does apply very well to this business as well.

 

I don't play favourites, as you never know what's going to happen in the future.

 

Let me add to this that my customer service motto has ABSOLUTELY NO relevance to a client that has abused you in anyway. Be it verbal, or just wasting our time, such as no-shows. If that line is crossed, they are NO LONGER considered clients. *(Bear in mind that some no shows MAY actually have a valid reason, use your discretion before just hammering them.)

[renegade 11027]

To me preferred client status would mean someone who is reliable, doesn,t try to negotiate,is safe, tips well and would be easy to reccomend to someone else,someone that respects and understands what this exchange is all about and respects those boundaries.

[Guest ***t***iv***]

there's some really great responses and thoughts on here, thank you all so much for sharing them so openly!

 

Pete: my questions were not meant to be about any one concept in particular, ie discounts. I tried to invite any ideas, thoughts or suggestions without bias. this thread just naturally shaped itelf toward that direction. seems to be where everyone's mind goes.

 

NJ and RG: RG, thanks for clarifying NJ's post. I totally understand now guys :)

 

Myself, I am thinking more along the lines of surprise rewards. things like maybe a lapdance, erotic massage or something similar that's tailored to the clients interests/desires. just ways to show loyal customers that extra bit of appreciation without them expecting it or when it might be happen next if they've already been indulged! that and, like Cleo said, allowing reliable visitors access to off hours visits.

[craig101 3213]

Exactly. The time a gentleman spends with a lady, even for the first time, should feel special for that gentleman. If he sees her again, and becomes a regular, and a "relationship" (for lack of a better word) develops, that in and of itself should be the only reward. He shouldn't expect discounts, only that he is going to meet a lady he knows and likes. He has to also be aware at the same time that he isn't the only client, (and she will treat her other clients the same) and this is the lady's livelihood, and respect that, just as she should respect he may be seeing other escorts

Hope that comes out right

RG

 

Additional Comments:

 

 

Because this is like no other industry. What other industry (and term only used because you used it) involves just two (ok, maybe three) people alone together intimately. And sharing things that they may be afraid to share with their so's/gf's. And if you were on a board about another industry posting comments about it, you wouldn't use the phrase I love you all.

If, and if a lady wants to provide preferred customer status to a client, it's up to her, but a client, new or repeat shouldn't expect or request it. He should, IMHO want to see that lady just because he wants to see her, not because he expects a discount at some future date

As I see it

RG

 

I would respectively disagree with you. If respectful we are allowed to ask or make requests. Of course the ladies decision is final and must be respected as she is the boss! There is a lot of intimacy and fun involved but make no mistake this is still a business. In some strip bars it's 20$ a song but if you get 5 or 10 songs its cheaper. Barbs even posts it on the wall!

I totally understand if a lady does not offer rebates for regulars. Thats her right and I respect it. But I don't it's wrong or rude to ask.

[fortunateone 156618]

In many industries customer loyalty is rewarded. If I stay at the same golf course they give me rebate. If I get 3 year phone contact they give me a deal. I could give a 100 more examples but won't! lol I don't think a lady should be disappointed if a long time regular asks for a rebate. If a guy sees a girl 4 times a month I don't see anything rude about asking for a discount. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the ladies here and hope I'm not offending anyone. I love you all! Just curious why some people think this industry is different then any other.

 

 

I would have to say that if the regular becomes a regular with the expectation a discount will be in the offering at some point, then as soon as he brings up the subject he ceases to be a preferred client lol. This business isn't quite the same as the golf course, but perhaps consider it similar to other services: you seen one barber for a year, do you ask them for a discount to continue to see them? You have had your accountant and your lawyer for over a year, do you ask/expect them to give you a discount? Your doctor visits, you do that regularly too, I imagine? Discounts (I know, we have health care lol), but what about the dentist? I've had 10 fillings over the past 7 years, is my 11th one free?

 

Now, if a guys is a regular visitor to an sp that starts offering specials and one day discounts, then it is in his best interest to call her up on those days and take advantage of it. He could even ask to be on her email list to alert him of these upcoming deals. But if he does end up calling her only when she is running a special or discount, I can imagine that he goes from being a treasured regular to "that guy who wants a deal."

 

 

Believe me, we all have one or two of "those guys", and they are not our preferred clients, especially when they are calling to see if we are available, they've been before, then after double checking the rate (or confirming that no we are not accepting 40-50 less than our regular rates today), they don't show up.

[roamingguy 300291]

I would respectively disagree with you. If respectful we are allowed to ask or make requests. Of course the ladies decision is final and must be respected as she is the boss! There is a lot of intimacy and fun involved but make no mistake this is still a business. In some strip bars it's 20$ a song but if you get 5 or 10 songs its cheaper. Barbs even posts it on the wall!

I totally understand if a lady does not offer rebates for regulars. Thats her right and I respect it. But I don't it's wrong or rude to ask.

 

It's sounding like preferred customer status is being thought of like another expected menu item. And I never said it wasn't a business, but it's a business like no other (actually the term industry was used) As per a PM I now prefer the term mutually beneficial understanding.

But not all businesses offer preferred customer status, since the comparisons to other businesses is being made. I go to the grocery store, groceries cost the same whether my first visit or fiftieth

And gas prices aren't reduced at the gas station for regular customers compared to first time customers. I go to get my haircut (what's left of it), at the same place. And my hobby, fishing, no PCS at the tackle stores I frequent, any expenses for repair/maintenance of my boat, no discounts at the marina etc etc etc. No deals, no preferred customer status. Point being made, not all businesses offer PCS, why is it expected that ladies (some who likely live paycheque to paycheque) should offer it. And why should ladies have PCS policy, they, just like all of us, have bills to pay at the end of the month, this is their livelihood, and their income.

Personally, if a lady at the time of an encounter provides something along the lines of a preferred customer status, she alone should just provide it, without saying you have reached PCS. But as a so called menu item I personally don't agree with it.

When I see a lady again it certainly has nothing to do with any PCS...I see a lady because I want to see her, pure and simple

RG

[Guest t**obb****]

I go to the grocery store, groceries cost the same whether my first visit or fiftieth

And gas prices aren't reduced at the gas station for regular customers compared to first time customers. I go to get my haircut (what's left of it), at the same place. And my hobby, fishing, no PCS at the tackle stores I frequent, any expenses for repair/maintenance of my boat, no discounts at the marina etc etc etc. No deals, no preferred customer status. Point being made, not all businesses offer PCS, why is it expected that ladies (some who likely live paycheque to paycheque) should offer it.

 

Agreed, Preferred status, should not be expected from every service provider.

 

On the businesses again.

If i have a Safeway or Metro card, I get discounts. Heck i even got a wine discount in california at a safeway having that card. They trade discounts for tracking my buying habits, and encourage me to come to their store.

Gas co-ops abound. In Thunder Bay there is a Can-Op, if you use Safeway and Superstore there are discounts at their gas bars.

You often can't get space at a local marina, again offering benefits to the loyal customers.

We have lots of tackle and boat shops in the area. I can't believe they haven't thrown in a bit more bait for you if you've been a regular customer. I'd change tackle shops.

As far as repairs, and maintenance. Still can't believe that if you bought your boat and trailer at the shop, that they don't throw in a bit extra when you're looking for gear/maintenance items, or let you try out something new without buying it. Must be a difference in geography.

 

Lets just stay with not all services will offer loyalty points or PCS. However, you'll be hard pressed to find any industry where it does not exist in some fashion with some of the service providers.

[fortunateone 156618]

Agreed, Preferred status, should not be expected from every service provider.

 

....

Lets just stay with not all services will offer loyalty points or PCS. However, you'll be hard pressed to find any industry where it does not exist in some fashion with some of the service providers.

 

 

Its one thing to say some other businesses have such incentive plans, tho I disagree that a Safeway card is in any way comparable to a session with any sp. Its quite another thing to imply, by listing after listing in a debative way, that therefore sps must include such discounts or they can be considered bad businesses to visit.

 

That, I think, is the main purpose of the contradictory lists that others are coming up with here.

 

If you want a discount from an sp, ask what sort of multiple hour sessions she has avaialble. Most sps provide their discounts into those packages. An overnighter, for example, at 1500, IS a preferred customer package, and includes a significant discount for the added hours and services that come with it.

 

I think you are overlooking the discounts that are already provided, (some sps may provide lower rates on non-fs sessions, or time based options which are fairly new to this industry which used to be service based rates, one sog and out you go). This is arrangement as it is now is not broken, and the sps have no need to "fix" it, in other words.

 

Many many sps who had lower rates then increased their rates charge their regular clients the original rates. What is probably not known, is that many many clients who find out their ATFs have raised their rates, bring the new rate to their appts anyway. Basically, again, a preferred client is one who really understands the dynamics of this business, and that the lady is providing an intimate service for his convenience and pleasure, but at the end of the day, needs to pay the rent and her bills, and she has set a rate that enables her to do this. Lowering it won't result in these same clients visiting more often, so lowering it will only result in her having to advertise more and try to see even more clients daily/weekly/monthly in order to make up this shortfall that is being suggested as "good business".

[Andee 220524]

In many industries customer loyalty is rewarded. If I stay at the same golf course they give me rebate. If I get 3 year phone contact they give me a deal. I could give a 100 more examples but won't! lol I don't think a lady should be disappointed if a long time regular asks for a rebate. If a guy sees a girl 4 times a month I don't see anything rude about asking for a discount. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the ladies here and hope I'm not offending anyone. I love you all! Just curious why some people think this industry is different then any other.

 

I have been seeing some of the same gents for years and not one has ever asked me for discount or freebie, mind you they do not visit 4 times a month.

 

But even it they were to happen, that is when going retainer may be the better option.

[Guest t**obb****]

Its quite another thing to imply, by listing after listing in a debative way, that therefore sps must include such discounts or they can be considered bad businesses to visit....

 

If you want a discount from an sp, ask what sort of multiple hour sessions she has avaialble...

 

This is arrangement as it is now is not broken, and the sps have no need to "fix" it, in other words...

 

Lowering it won't result in these same clients visiting more often, so lowering it will only result in her having to advertise more and try to see even more clients daily/weekly/monthly in order to make up this shortfall that is being suggested as "good business".

 

Points for clarification:

I hope noone is implying that its bad business not to offer PCS or discounts. The KEG in thunder bay doesn't offer reservations. They are very busy and choose not to do this.

 

I agree, you should feel free to ask questions in a constructive manner after establishing a business relationship with the service provider.

 

"Fix" as i used it meant fix a portion of the SPs income, not fix the relationship.

 

If lowering the rate will result in less money overall, absolutely don't take it. I thought we were taking about PCS, not discount advertising?

 

Further Thought

Use everything at your disposal to provide your services in the way that suits you best. See one client a month who pays the bills in that single session, and then pick and choose who you see after, and at what rate.

Its your business, you should have clear goals and clear guidelines on how to get there. For some PCS will increase their bottom line, but will result in a lower hourly rate.

I know, even withouth the tax man, that at some point you will not want to work yourself into too low a rate, just to take home more money. But that's your choice. Its not good or bad business.

 

Its bad business, and karma, to be bullied into a position that you are not comfortable with, or not sure that it will be a benefit to you. Think it out, assess your options, and make your plans.

If you're comfortable with your decision, then its a good one.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

Late to this thread, as usual.

 

I think many are over-analyzing the original poster's question ... to me, "preferred customer status" or whatever you call it, is really nothing more than a technique to market one's services. All the points about not bargaining, and not asking for discounts, are quite valid, but that doesn't mean a lady, or an agency, shouldn't offer whatever "value proposition" they feel is necessary to get business. I treasure the relationships I have made here, but after all, this is ... at the margin ... a market for buying and selling services.

[tonyb 1028]

The concept of "Preferred Customer Status" really only works when you are offering a commodity.

 

Think of those TV ads for Ally Bank where new kids are treated better than current customers; current customers don't think it's fair. But that's because everyone gets exactly the same service, but for a different price. For some businesses, it's cheaper and easier to get new customers than it is to hang onto existing customers; especially if the bsuiness provides a commodity.

 

If you aren't selling a commodity, then most of your business will come from a very small number of clients.

 

I would think that an agency or massage parlour may benefit from a PCS, but not an independent provider.

 

Some guys like to meet a new woman every time, but some guys may be more pre-disposed to coming back to a woman they've already enjoyed being with. If a customer returns, the relationship should start to change whereby they stop being a "customer" and become a "client". There is a mutual reliance which may grow over time. How it grows will depend on the two people involved, but since it's the SP's business we are talking about, she should be the one to actively manage it.

 

Discounts may appeal to some; for others, the thinking and preparation that the SP puts into the encounter may provide extra value; she may initiate something new that adds excitement, or enthusiastically accomodate a special request; sometimes she may allow the session to run over; and sometimes they may enjoy each others' company over a meal, coffee or drinks.

 

It's a business in that it's competitive, and there are costs associated with providing the service. But it's also damned personal, on both sides.

 

It's up to the SP to manage the relationship from a business point of view: the guys may not always remember what you did during an encounter, but they will always remember how you made them feel.

[Gabriella Laurence 301886]

Exactly Gabriella PCS shouldn't be a menu type item, it should be something personal between the lady and gentleman...something unexpected, but special, making the encounter memorable. And how do you advertise something that is unique to the lady and gentleman.

And certainly it shouldn't be a focus on monetary discounts IMHO, more on making a special evening (or afternoon) with a lady just more special and memorable

Like I said before, any lady offering me a monetary discount will just end up with a larger tip

RG

 

I agree with you RG.

Again, for me, I rather not offer a discount and much prefer to invest in the quality of our rendez-vous!!

[Guest ***t***iv***]

I want to take this opportunity to apologize to anyone I may have inadvertently offended.

 

I did not intend to ask anyone anything I was not willing to share just as openly. Nor did I realize that by holding off on sharing my own thoughts, I would appear as withholding to you all. I truly apologize for my mistake.

 

To clarify using a quote from Gabriella, 'superior service' methods were essentially what I was considering when I referred to a P.C.S., not necessarily 'monetary discount', that is just the way the thread happens to have gone.

 

thank you for reading this.

 

S.K.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

Sugar --

 

Money and discounts are sensitive topics around here. You are asking good questions and you have nothing to apologize for. For instance, some of the best known agencies offer lower incremental rates for multiple hour visits and also "introductory" rates for newer ladies or for members of some of the message boards. When you are new, its about "marketing." (smile) That doesn't necessarily mean discounts, but its certainly not unheard of.

 

That being said, there is a lot of wisdom here from the guys and ladies on what the right approach is ... just make good decisions and stay safe!

[northern_man_2000 100]

As far as I'm concerned, if you become a regular customer to any business, there is an expectation that you will be treated somewhat better than a one time custoemer, but that would not mean discounted prices or extra services.

 

Anytime a person treats themselves to something special, they wish it could be a regular part of their lives. Renting a luxury car for a day is great fun but just because you rent it once a month for a year, does not mean the dealer should discount the price to a level that meets your situation.

 

If you feel the expense is worth it, than a small discount really should not make that big a difference to the overall experience (saving $20 or $50 would not make time spent with a woman any more enjoyable to me). Like all good things in life, you get what you pay for.

 

The "specials" that I would expect as a regular would simply make for a a more relaxed interaction.

 

Getting to know each other a little better would lead to a more open conversation, more natural flow to the appointment and would make the time spent together feel more like friends getting together than a business transaction.

 

If, over time, we don't seem to build mutual trust and a greater comfort level with each other, I would start to look at the options available and decide if it may be time to work with someone else.

[LuxeMulvari 65764]

On the flip side of the coin, from a strictly business point of view, it would make sense to cancel a regular's appointment, because he will reschedule anyway, to accommodate an 11th. hour request from someone new, who could potentially becoming a regular. I'm just saying.

 

 

My regs take care of me, I would NEVER treat them in such a disrespectful manner.

[outsider 1012]

As for myself, I would not expect a $$ discount. I was able to pay the rate once, why not again. For a travelling lady, a quick notification (before offical posting- giving me one of the first options for app) before coming in my next of the woods. Maybe getting off hours time slot!! As for offering extra's, I guess it all depends on the connection between the client and SP (YMMV). On one encounter I had with a wonderful lady, my 1 hour app became 1h15mins.