victoryformation 27 Report post Posted June 28 Do you have investment portfolios ... and what might they look like? (Whenever I rendezvoused with My ATF ... I would bring along Vanguard brochures and tried to impress upon her the importance of investing her $$$ and preparing for the next chapter in her life.) I gotta believe the overwhelmingly vast majority of providers ... give little thought to investing their $$$ ... and think their $alad Day$ are gunna last forever! (I recommended to her Vanguard Growth Index Fund (VIGRX) ... 1 year return 30.4% ... 5 year return 15.2%.) I think it sunk in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted June 29 What % of clients show up empty handed? (They don't even have the decency to bring a token gift.) A flower ... a small box of chocolates. Does it even matter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted July 1 On 6/15/2026 at 10:07 PM, victoryformation said: You are 100% correct! As a touring provider ... it's a good (street-smart) business model to keep your clients abreast of your touring schedule. ** And you are also correct in your assessment of local escorts ... and reaching out! (But how often do you encounter a client whose companionship you really enjoyed ... and you just felt compelled to shoot him a cordial ..."when are you gunna come see again" email?)** What is so wrong about dropping a hint to a client ... that you really enjoyed his companionship? (It's a harmless gesture!) Furthermore ... it's a good business model! ** I must confess: I really looked forward to My ATF's .... cordial, Sunday-morning emails! I only contact clients who have given me permission to do so either by text or email and usually during regular week day daytime hours so as not to intrude on their personal life when it may be awkward for them to receive or answer me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted July 1 On 6/28/2026 at 11:03 AM, victoryformation said: Do you have investment portfolios ... and what might they look like? (Whenever I rendezvoused with My ATF ... I would bring along Vanguard brochures and tried to impress upon her the importance of investing her $$$ and preparing for the next chapter in her life.) I gotta believe the overwhelmingly vast majority of providers ... give little thought to investing their $$$ ... and think their $alad Day$ are gunna last forever! (I recommended to her Vanguard Growth Index Fund (VIGRX) ... 1 year return 30.4% ... 5 year return 15.2%.) I think it sunk in! You seem to be asking a lot of what I would call personal questions of providers who may wish to keep that information private. Contrary to popular belief, there are many providers who do their income tax and invest their money, but I doubt they are going to share the details with clients because it’s none of their business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted July 1 On 6/29/2026 at 11:31 AM, victoryformation said: What % of clients show up empty handed? (They don't even have the decency to bring a token gift.) A flower ... a small box of chocolates. Does it even matter? I would say that most clients show up with the required donation and sometimes add a tip, but anything extra is probably in the minority to be honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted July 1 On 6/18/2026 at 10:52 AM, StephanieMystique said: @victoryformation we are not enjoying your repeat commatary, once was enough. We don't need an alphabet soup play by play of what happened. Those matters are to be kept discreet and between you and the individual. If you had such a positive experience leave a recommendation. Otherwise, especially with you being new to the platform, we are going to think you are lying. If you like writing erotica there is appropriate sites to discuss and tell storys. Agreed, they are so convoluted at times I couldn't tell if he was the SP or the client when he went on about ATM, he was answering questions meant for providers. Maybe the monitors can restricts posts to novella size instead of Charles Dickens sized novels. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 2 On 7/1/2026 at 3:42 AM, Mature Andee said: I would say that most clients show up with the required donation and sometimes add a tip, but anything extra is probably in the minority to be honest. 20 hours ago, Prufrock's Back said: I just couldn't show up emptyhanded! I would always show up with a small box of chocolates and a small bouquet of flowers! (I tried to bring a little courtship to the endeavor!) And I always put the donation in a fancy Hallmark Signature Card with a lottery ticket in there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 2 Au Contraire Mon Frere! As opposed to a monger who has hooked up with a provider 2 or 3 times ... a monger who has rendezvoused with his ATF 78x ... there's history there! No? There are tales to be told! (How could there not be?) Unanticipated events happen! Giving a Cliff's Notes version of events ... can not do justice to how the events really went down and played out! So sometimes ... a "War and Peace version of events" is justified! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 2 On 7/1/2026 at 3:40 AM, Mature Andee said: You seem to be asking a lot of what I would call personal questions of providers who may wish to keep that information private. Contrary to popular belief, there are many providers who do their income tax and invest their money, but I doubt they are going to share the details with clients because it’s none of their business. True enough! But most people (not only providers) ... are abysmally ignorant about investing! (They couldn't tell you the first thing about ETFs or dollar cost averaging!) They probably never heard of Fidelity, Vanguard or T. Rowe Price! (They probably never read the WSJ!) I saw firsthand the trajectory of My ATF's career! I vividly remember our very first rendezvous ... embarrassed she sheepishly told me ... "I sorry I know my English is not so much!" Four years later she branded and made a name for herself ... and was bankin' a 1/4 mil a year! I just couldn't sit idly by ... and do nothing! That's why I would bring along brochures from Vanguard and Fidelity to our rendezvous .... and try to impress upon her the importance of investing her money! She was teachable and eager to learn! I got her tuning into CNBC, Squawk Box and Jim Kramer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 2 (edited) On 7/1/2026 at 3:42 AM, Mature Andee said: I would say that most clients show up with the required donation and sometimes add a tip, but anything extra is probably in the minority to be honest. Doesn't a small token gift or a flower set the correct tone for a rendezvous? Does it not depict the monger in a favorable light? (Is it not a display of a modicum of class?) Edited July 2 by victoryformation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 2 On 7/1/2026 at 3:38 AM, Mature Andee said: I only contact clients who have given me permission to do so either by text or email and usually during regular week day daytime hours so as not to intrude on their personal life when it may be awkward for them to receive or answer me. That's a good modus operandi ... for sure! But how often did you encounter a monger ... who did a little somethin' for ya ... and you felt compelled to shoot him an email ... telling him you're still around and available? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179888 Report post Posted July 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, victoryformation said: That's a good modus operandi ... for sure! But how often did you encounter a monger ... who did a little somethin' for ya ... and you felt compelled to shoot him an email ... telling him you're still around and available? Here in Canada, we call clients, "hobbyists, guests, or members". Never mongers. I know you're not in Canada, so just a heads up, the term doesn't work in Canada. You keep using the word 'monger.' What exactly do you mean by that in context? Are you promoting fish? Dealer or trader? A monger is a dealer, trader, or someone who promotes a specific activity or idea. Or just a wanna be pimp? And your k-gurl is already represented? You can put the thesaurus away. We use regular language here. Just stop. Edited July 3 by Meaghan McLeod 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted July 3 Thank you for that Meaghan! I agree the k-gurl and monger repetition are very annoying. I'm pretty sure that these victoryformation posts are AI generated from the look of them with the repetition, verbosity and layout. I'm going to choose to ignore the posts from it going forward, not worth the time of day 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 3 14 minutes ago, Meaghan McLeod said: Here in Canada, we call clients, "hobbyists, guests, or members". Never mongers. I know you're not in Canada, so just a heads up, the term doesn't work in Canada. You keep using the word 'monger.' What exactly do you mean by that in context? Are you promoting fish? Dealer or trader? Or just a wanna be pimp? And your k-gurl is already represented? You can put the thesaurus away. We use regular language here. Just stop. Gotta admit ... "hobbyist", "guest" or "client" is a classier descriptive! But in USA ... the term "monger" is freely accepted! Furthermore: We callout and pejoratively refer to lowlife, cheapskate, low-balling "mongers" who disrespect providers by arguing over $$$ ... we call them "Backpage Refugees"! THEY make it bad for everybody and give us "mongers" ... a bad name! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted July 3 monger is a bad name AI voice you contradict yourself by saying: "Furthermore: We callout and pejoratively refer to lowlife, cheapskate, low-balling "mongers" who disrespect providers by arguing over $$$ ... we call them "Backpage Refugees"! so you are a monger in a positive connotation in your posts (referring to yourself as such) and yet a low-balling monger is negative connotation. This will be the last reply I do to any of your AI generated posts. Or the posts of an idiot. Cheers "Mon Frere" (Fake AI dude) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted July 3 5 hours ago, victoryformation said: True enough! But most people (not only providers) ... are abysmally ignorant about investing! (They couldn't tell you the first thing about ETFs or dollar cost averaging!) They probably never heard of Fidelity, Vanguard or T. Rowe Price! (They probably never read the WSJ!) I saw firsthand the trajectory of My ATF's career! I vividly remember our very first rendezvous ... embarrassed she sheepishly told me ... "I sorry I know my English is not so much!" Four years later she branded and made a name for herself ... and was bankin' a 1/4 mil a year! I just couldn't sit idly by ... and do nothing! That's why I would bring along brochures from Vanguard and Fidelity to our rendezvous .... and try to impress upon her the importance of investing her money! She was teachable and eager to learn! I got her tuning into CNBC, Squawk Box and Jim Kramer! You stated in previous posts that she’s low volume. what is she charging per hour to make over $20,000 a month? And why would she share her financial information with you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul0331 65 Report post Posted July 3 Don’t know what this guys problem is but it’s really annoying I think he’s a wanna be gangster or is completely lost in a fantasy world and thinks he is impressing us Do us all a favour and go away and don’t bother us nobody here is impressed with you if you are having mental issues please seek professional help before you get so lost in your fantasy world that you can’t get out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cjthomas 1709 Report post Posted July 3 7 hours ago, Prufrock's Back said: monger is a bad name AI voice you contradict yourself by saying: "Furthermore: We callout and pejoratively refer to lowlife, cheapskate, low-balling "mongers" who disrespect providers by arguing over $$$ ... we call them "Backpage Refugees"! so you are a monger in a positive connotation in your posts (referring to yourself as such) and yet a low-balling monger is negative connotation. This will be the last reply I do to any of your AI generated posts. Or the posts of an idiot. Cheers "Mon Frere" (Fake AI dude) To be upset over the term monger is a bit silly given the amount of condescending terms often used to describe some providers and some of us clients in that discussion forum. But have at it, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 3 8 hours ago, Mature Andee said: You stated in previous posts that she’s low volume. what is she charging per hour to make over $20,000 a month? And why would she share her financial information with you? What is your definition of low volume? (To me high volume ... is 7 to 8 "wham-bam-thank-you-mam" clients a day!) Like I've said ... I had a good look behind the (her) curtain! She was My Go-To ATF over a 5 year period! As a result ... I could connect the dots and ascertain her business model! She started out at a price point of 350 per. As stellar reviews came in ... she started to brand herself ... and worked her way up 500 per! And was still fully booked! (But as she was raising her price points ... she always grandfathered me at 350!) I would get emails like: "As you may know &%$#.. I recently raised my prices ... but not for you ... you are always good to me." Like I've said ... after 5 years and 78 rendezvous ... I could essentially gauge her business model! When I first pulled the trigger on her she had 37 stellar reviews on TER! I ascertained this to be her business model (ballpark figures): On average: 1) 4 high-quality, well-behaved gents a day (1 in the morning ... 2 in the afternoon ... and 1 at night.) 2) That equates to $2000 a day (500 x 4)! 3) She only worked 4 days a week (Tu, Wed, Th, Fr). 4) So that equates to $8000 a week! 5) She took many vacations and returned to SK frequently .... and probably worked only about 40 weeks a year! 6) So that comes to $8000 x 40 ...which equates to $320, 000 a year (God only knows what she was making in tips from smitten regulars)! Again: These are all ballpark figures! (My brother mongers think I'm crazy when I say this ... she obviously knew I was a devout and shameless DATY/DATOer ... in order to accommodate me (she knew I was gunna wantonly lick her pussy and eat her asshole) ... she would make it a point for me to be her only client for that day!) Do you think I'm crazy to think THIS? In regard to volume: Like I said ... 5 years and 78 rendezvous ... she never looked worn out or world weary! She never looked tired! She never had a high-volume, musty smell to her! (Our rendezvous were never perfunctory or quotidian!) She was always game ... to get her pussy licked and her asshole eaten (and make me feel as if I was her only client for that day)! Could I be wrong ... about my perception of THIS? As a perceptive monger and devout DATY/DATOer ... I gotta believe that I would have sensed and picked up on ,,, if she were high-volume! No? (I maintain if a provider is high-volume ... it's difficult to hide!) There are only so many tricks to the trade! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 3 4 hours ago, Cjthomas said: To be upset over the term monger is a bit silly given the amount of condescending terms often used to describe some providers and some of us clients in that discussion forum. But have at it, lol. Hear ... Hear! It's a matter of semantics! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted July 3 8 hours ago, victoryformation said: What is your definition of low volume? (To me high volume ... is 7 to 8 "wham-bam-thank-you-mam" clients a day!) Like I've said ... I had a good look behind the (her) curtain! She was My Go-To ATF over a 5 year period! As a result ... I could connect the dots and ascertain her business model! She started out at a price point of 350 per. As stellar reviews came in ... she started to brand herself ... and worked her way up 500 per! And was still fully booked! (But as she was raising her price points ... she always grandfathered me at 350!) I would get emails like: "As you may know &%$#.. I recently raised my prices ... but not for you ... you are always good to me." Like I've said ... after 5 years and 78 rendezvous ... I could essentially gauge her business model! When I first pulled the trigger on her she had 37 stellar reviews on TER! I ascertained this to be her business model (ballpark figures): On average: 1) 4 high-quality, well-behaved gents a day (1 in the morning ... 2 in the afternoon ... and 1 at night.) 2) That equates to $2000 a day (500 x 4)! 3) She only worked 4 days a week (Tu, Wed, Th, Fr). 4) So that equates to $8000 a week! 5) She took many vacations and returned to SK frequently .... and probably worked only about 40 weeks a year! 6) So that comes to $8000 x 40 ...which equates to $320, 000 a year (God only knows what she was making in tips from smitten regulars)! Again: These are all ballpark figures! (My brother mongers think I'm crazy when I say this ... she obviously knew I was a devout and shameless DATY/DATOer ... in order to accommodate me (she knew I was gunna wantonly lick her pussy and eat her asshole) ... she would make it a point for me to be her only client for that day!) Do you think I'm crazy to think THIS? In regard to volume: Like I said ... 5 years and 78 rendezvous ... she never looked worn out or world weary! She never looked tired! She never had a high-volume, musty smell to her! (Our rendezvous were never perfunctory or quotidian!) She was always game ... to get her pussy licked and her asshole eaten (and make me feel as if I was her only client for that day)! Could I be wrong ... about my perception of THIS? As a perceptive monger and devout DATY/DATOer ... I gotta believe that I would have sensed and picked up on ,,, if she were high-volume! No? (I maintain if a provider is high-volume ... it's difficult to hide!) There are only so many tricks to the trade! Ha ha this is so made up fake AI guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 3 12 hours ago, Paul0331 said: Don’t know what this guys problem is but it’s really annoying I think he’s a wanna be gangster or is completely lost in a fantasy world and thinks he is impressing us Do us all a favour and go away and don’t bother us nobody here is impressed with you if you are having mental issues please seek professional help before you get so lost in your fantasy world that you can’t get out Your naysaying (and the naysaying of others) ... is immensely gratifying to me! (I can't begin to tell ya!)😁 To be accused of being "lost in a fantasy world" ... when all that I have posted is 100% true ... makes me Feel Like a World Beater! To know that my sui generis mongering experiences ... is totally beyond you ken ...MAKES ME FEEL GOOD! To know that a monger like yourself ... who lives a mongering life of diminished expectations ....and can't relate ... and can only resort to ad hominem attacks ... makes me realize and appreciate the extraordinary mongering life I have led! Like I said: It Makes Me Feel Like a World Beater!😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted July 3 12 minutes ago, Prufrock's Back said: Ha ha this is so made up fake AI guy. See my response to Paul0031! Like him ... you've led a mongering life of diminished expectations ... and just can't relate! (That's on you!) Keep it up! Your naysaying ... is Good for My Soul ... and MAKES ME FEEL LIKE a MONGERING WORLD BEATER! I f##kin' LUV IT!😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted July 4 8 hours ago, victoryformation said: What is your definition of low volume? (To me high volume ... is 7 to 8 "wham-bam-thank-you-mam" clients a day!) Like I've said ... I had a good look behind the (her) curtain! She was My Go-To ATF over a 5 year period! As a result ... I could connect the dots and ascertain her business model! She started out at a price point of 350 per. As stellar reviews came in ... she started to brand herself ... and worked her way up 500 per! And was still fully booked! (But as she was raising her price points ... she always grandfathered me at 350!) I would get emails like: "As you may know &%$#.. I recently raised my prices ... but not for you ... you are always good to me." Like I've said ... after 5 years and 78 rendezvous ... I could essentially gauge her business model! When I first pulled the trigger on her she had 37 stellar reviews on TER! I ascertained this to be her business model (ballpark figures): On average: 1) 4 high-quality, well-behaved gents a day (1 in the morning ... 2 in the afternoon ... and 1 at night.) 2) That equates to $2000 a day (500 x 4)! 3) She only worked 4 days a week (Tu, Wed, Th, Fr). 4) So that equates to $8000 a week! 5) She took many vacations and returned to SK frequently .... and probably worked only about 40 weeks a year! 6) So that comes to $8000 x 40 ...which equates to $320, 000 a year (God only knows what she was making in tips from smitten regulars)! Again: These are all ballpark figures! (My brother mongers think I'm crazy when I say this ... she obviously knew I was a devout and shameless DATY/DATOer ... in order to accommodate me (she knew I was gunna wantonly lick her pussy and eat her asshole) ... she would make it a point for me to be her only client for that day!) Do you think I'm crazy to think THIS? In regard to volume: Like I said ... 5 years and 78 rendezvous ... she never looked worn out or world weary! She never looked tired! She never had a high-volume, musty smell to her! (Our rendezvous were never perfunctory or quotidian!) She was always game ... to get her pussy licked and her asshole eaten (and make me feel as if I was her only client for that day)! Could I be wrong ... about my perception of THIS? As a perceptive monger and devout DATY/DATOer ... I gotta believe that I would have sensed and picked up on ,,, if she were high-volume! No? (I maintain if a provider is high-volume ... it's difficult to hide!) There are only so many tricks to the trade! Interesting perspective, but I'd be careful about drawing firm conclusions from what you experienced as a client. To me, "low volume" generally means somewhere around 2–4 appointments a day on working days. Once you're consistently at 6–8 or more, I'd consider that high volume. Everyone defines it a little differently. As for your ATF, your estimates are certainly plausible, but they're still estimates. Even after 78 visits over five years, you only saw one side of her business. There could have been cancellations, doubles, longer bookings, days off, private regulars, travel, or schedule changes that you were never aware of. Regarding her making you the only client on certain days because she knew you enjoyed DATY/DATO, it's possible—but none of us can really know unless she explicitly told you. Some providers do intentionally leave larger gaps around longer or more involved appointments, while others simply schedule that way for unrelated reasons. The fact that she always seemed fresh, enthusiastic, and never rushed says more about her professionalism than it does about her actual daily volume. Some providers are exceptionally good at creating an experience where each client feels like they're their only appointment. That's part of what separates highly regarded providers from average ones. So I wouldn't say you're crazy—I just think there's a difference between having a reasonable impression and knowing for certain. Your observations are valid, but the actual business model behind the scenes is something only she truly knows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted July 4 that was google chat gpt responding the the victoryMisinformation AI poster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
