Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted August 20 4 hours ago, victoryformation said: I can indeed "do it"!😉 Let's start off with basic expenses! (You better than me ... would know all about a provider's incidental expenses!) My K-Girl ATF's has gotta be on the exceedingly high side ... as she is meticulously well-appointed, a fashionista ... and exudes high-maintenance! (And I'm sure she spares no expense!) She knows how to present herself and turn heads ... THAT'S for SURE! My figure of $250, 000 ... is her gross take ... the expenses can be variable ... and are up to her! (Let's assume her expenses (hotel, booker, tanning salon, electrolyte drips, acupuncture, gym membership, nails, hair, cosmetics, facials, Uber, Victoria's Secret outfits, CFM pumps and all manner of beauty treatments) ... amounts to $300 per working day!) That's a reasonable assumption! No? Being a frequent flyer ... I'm sure she gets all manner of deals and discounted rates from Hilton, Sheraton and Double Tree! I know her business model ... and how she operates! I am a keen observer ... and know how to connect the dots! I KNOW the GAME!! LET'S CRUNCH the #s!😉 She commands $400 per (absurdly under-priced!)😉 She accommodates four (4) Well-Behaved, Well-Groomed, Play-by-the-Rules, Know-the-Game, HNW gents a day! (1 in the morning ... 2 in the afternoon ... and 1 at night!) That's 400 x 4 = 1600 a day! (Let's factor in the $300 in expenses ... per working day!) That comes to 1300 a day ... net! Her schedule is 4 1/2 days a week (Tues, Weds, Thurs, Fri and a 1/2 day on Sat)! That's 1300 x 4.5 = 5850 a week (let's round it off to 6000 ... factoring in tips from starry-eyed, smitten, HNW Regular$)!🥰 It's an Enviable Business Model! No? She travels a lot (goes to SK once a year to visit her family) ... paces herself and only works 10 months a year (so that's 40 weeks a year)! So that's 6000 x 40 = 240, 000 a year (ALL CA$H)!😁 (On a taxable basis ... that's equivalent to 350,000 a year!) THERE YA GO! Nobody is ever guaranteed to make the same amount of money every day for 40 weeks and I’m sure she’s not making the same on the half day as a full day. And your $300 a day in expenses is low. The Booker should be getting at least $40 or $50 a call so that would be $200 right there and that leaves $100 for hotel, advertising, and personal care expenses. - no way. it’s pretty hard to hide all that money from the IRS without doing a tax return. The good thing about Canada is it’s not illegal to be a sex worker so when you declare your income, you’re not going to be arrested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179887 Report post Posted August 20 I agree with Andee, $300 for expenses is low. Booker is generally 25-40% of each booking. I always tipped my booker if I had a good day. Hotel is minimum $200-$400 depending on the type of suite booked. Any rewards points could be put towards her expenses, but most of us use them for our personal travel What about food? Girls gotta eat. Staying in hotels makes eating expensive. If she goes back to South Korea each year, the cost needs to be budgeted into her expenses. I imagine a cost of $5000-$7000 divided over 9 months so she has that covered. Where does she live while not working? That cost needs to be included in her expenses. I imagine she is able to get some of her clothes/heals in SK, reducing the costs, but going into Victoria Secret generally is a minimum of $500 each time. Louboutins start at $700 and go up from there. Granted, these are not daily expenses, but it adds up. I dont know about you, but do you ever call in sick for work? This industry means we dont get paid if we dont take calls. Are you taking this into consideration? Everyone needs time off, especially in an intimate industry. What about no shows and cancelations? Getting 17-18 calls consistently week after week is not likely. The long term ability to see that high volume is not sustainable. The numbers you are proposing she can "bank" are unrealistic. You cant "bank" money that is spent. Again, someone who claims to have an inside knowledge of this industry, sure has no clue of the actual costs associated with working. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 20 8 hours ago, Mature Andee said: Nobody is ever guaranteed to make the same amount of money every day for 40 weeks and I’m sure she’s not making the same on the half day as a full day. And your $300 a day in expenses is low. The Booker should be getting at least $40 or $50 a call so that would be $200 right there and that leaves $100 for hotel, advertising, and personal care expenses. - no way. it’s pretty hard to hide all that money from the IRS without doing a tax return. The good thing about Canada is it’s not illegal to be a sex worker so when you declare your income, you’re not going to be arrested. You are correct! Her booker does get a 10% take ($40) on all her bookings! To his credit he is very good at what he does (with the exception of the one faux pas he committed during a February snowstorm)! He earns his paycheck! (He makes sure she has a fully-booked schedule of Safe, HNW Gent$!) But the 250,000 (give or take) per year ... is still, a somewhat accurate, ballpark estimate! (Cuz I know her business model ... and the caliber of client(s) she entertains!) As you say ... the daily estimate of "$300 a day in expenses is low"! You are probably correct in that assumption! I will concede THAT! Like I said ... the 250,000 is a ballpark figure! There are several additional incomes factors ... that you have not accounted for in her 4 1/2 days a week business model! For example: I assumed her business model of "1 in the morning ...2 in the afternoon ... 1 at night" ... were all just 1 hour appointments! (What if some of those appointments were multi-hours?) And ... on her Saturday 1/2 day business model ... I assumed just 1 client in the morning! (What if she actually accommodated 2 HNW gents ... before checkout time?) These very probable contingencies ... all add up to addition $$$ ... that you're not factoring in! Like I said ... my guesstimate was that she paces herself ... and works only 40 weeks a year! (What does she do in the other 12 weeks (3 months))?) During those 3 months ... how many lucrative FMTY weekends does she get? (I'm sure her dance card is always full!)😉 There's much more to her business model ... than her 4 1/2 day schedule at high-end hotels! i.e. She gets full weekend dates at AC casinos ... with High Rollers!** She gets multi-hour dates ... where HNW gents take her to Jets and Giants games!** She gets multi-hour dates ... where she's taken to Broadway plays ("Jersey Boys", "Cats")!** She gets multi-hour dates where she's taken to Sunday brunch on The High Line!** She gets full-weekend dates from one HNW client ... where they spend the weekend touring mansions in Newport, Rhode Island ... where he wines and dines her at the swanky Black Pearl!** She's got it all workin'!😉 (At her rate at $400 per ... how much is she makin' on these multi-hour (FMTY weekend) dates!) These dates ... come to an additional 10s of 1000s of $$$ a year!👍 You're not factoring THIS in! So when you factor all THIS in ... my estimate of $250, 000 is a reasonably accurate ballpark #! (Heck ... when she's Clickin' on All Cylinder$ ... she could be bankin' $300,000 a year!)😁 In regard to My ATF filing her taxes and the IRS: On the books she's part-owner of a boutique beauty supply store ... and she launders her $$$ through that entity!😉 ** It is THIS insider info .... that I was made privy to during pillow talk! (If the truth be told: I rather enjoy these pillow-talk revelations!)😎 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted August 21 10 hours ago, victoryformation said: You are correct! Her booker does get a 10% take ($40) on all her bookings! To his credit he is very good at what he does (with the exception of the one faux pas he committed during a February snowstorm)! He earns his paycheck! (He makes sure she has a fully-booked schedule of Safe, HNW Gent$!) But the 250,000 (give or take) per year ... is still, a somewhat accurate, ballpark estimate! (Cuz I know her business model ... and the caliber of client(s) she entertains!) As you say ... the daily estimate of "$300 a day in expenses is low"! You are probably correct in that assumption! I will concede THAT! Like I said ... the 250,000 is a ballpark figure! There are several additional incomes factors ... that you have not accounted for in her 4 1/2 days a week business model! For example: I assumed her business model of "1 in the morning ...2 in the afternoon ... 1 at night" ... were all just 1 hour appointments! (What if some of those appointments were multi-hours?) And ... on her Saturday 1/2 day business model ... I assumed just 1 client in the morning! (What if she actually accommodated 2 HNW gents ... before checkout time?) These very probable contingencies ... all add up to addition $$$ ... that you're not factoring in! Like I said ... my guesstimate was that she paces herself ... and works only 40 weeks a year! (What does she do in the other 12 weeks (3 months))?) During those 3 months ... how many lucrative FMTY weekends does she get? (I'm sure her dance card is always full!)😉 There's much more to her business model ... than her 4 1/2 day schedule at high-end hotels! i.e. She gets full weekend dates at AC casinos ... with High Rollers!** She gets multi-hour dates ... where HNW gents take her to Jets and Giants games!** She gets multi-hour dates ... where she's taken to Broadway plays ("Jersey Boys", "Cats")!** She gets multi-hour dates where she's taken to Sunday brunch on The High Line!** She gets full-weekend dates from one HNW client ... where they spend the weekend touring mansions in Newport, Rhode Island ... where he wines and dines her at the swanky Black Pearl!** She's got it all workin'!😉 (At her rate at $400 per ... how much is she makin' on these multi-hour (FMTY weekend) dates!) These dates ... come to an additional 10s of 1000s of $$$ a year!👍 You're not factoring THIS in! So when you factor all THIS in ... my estimate of $250, 000 is a reasonably accurate ballpark #! (Heck ... when she's Clickin' on All Cylinder$ ... she could be bankin' $300,000 a year!)😁 In regard to My ATF filing her taxes and the IRS: On the books she's part-owner of a boutique beauty supply store ... and she launders her $$$ through that entity!😉 ** It is THIS insider info .... that I was made privy to during pillow talk! (If the truth be told: I rather enjoy these pillow-talk revelations!)😎 I hope she’s giving her book her $40 on each hour that she works not just each call because for every hour that she’s in a call is an hour that can’t be booked. There is no way that anybody can be guaranteed 4 calls a day every working day every week. And then all this weekend stuff like this is girl not have a life? And you started off by telling us how she was low volume lol. If any of what you are saying is true, you are the most indiscreet client talking about personal details of a provider and her life and clients and then telling us that she launders her money. Not cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Meaghan McLeod said: I agree with Andee, $300 for expenses is low. Booker is generally 25-40% of each booking. I always tipped my booker if I had a good day. Hotel is minimum $200-$400 depending on the type of suite booked. Any rewards points could be put towards her expenses, but most of us use them for our personal travel What about food? Girls gotta eat. Staying in hotels makes eating expensive. If she goes back to South Korea each year, the cost needs to be budgeted into her expenses. I imagine a cost of $5000-$7000 divided over 9 months so she has that covered. Where does she live while not working? That cost needs to be included in her expenses. I imagine she is able to get some of her clothes/heals in SK, reducing the costs, but going into Victoria Secret generally is a minimum of $500 each time. Louboutins start at $700 and go up from there. Granted, these are not daily expenses, but it adds up. I dont know about you, but do you ever call in sick for work? This industry means we dont get paid if we dont take calls. Are you taking this into consideration? Everyone needs time off, especially in an intimate industry. What about no shows and cancelations? Getting 17-18 calls consistently week after week is not likely. The long term ability to see that high volume is not sustainable. The numbers you are proposing she can "bank" are unrealistic. You cant "bank" money that is spent. Again, someone who claims to have an inside knowledge of this industry, sure has no clue of the actual costs associated with working. Why do you say: "Getting 17-18 calls consistently week after week is not likely"? There are stories of f##k-anybody, high-volume AMP girls ... boasting about servicing 12 clients a day!😯 (They would sell their soul to the Devil ... if they had a schedule of four (4) Well-Behaved, Well-Mannered, Play-by-the-Rules, HNW Gents a day ... 4 1/2 days a week!☺️ No? Like I've mentioned in previous posts ... I've seen (by a mistake) My ATF's client list! There were 167 names ... on that list! (Doctors, lawyers, pilots, golf pros, contractors, college professors!)👍 "17-18 calls ... week after week" ... of those types of (high-caliber) clients ... is most certainly doable! And furthermore ... My ATF's clients are not a bunch of misogynistic, lowlife, gangbangin', carjacking, dope-dealing thugs 😯...but well-behaved, respectful, highly-coveted, HNW Gents! Let's get real ... here! (Her booker would never in a million years ... allow a miscreant, gangbangin' thug and his crew ... to step into her room!) THAT AIN'T GUNNA HAPPEN! But I digress! With an enviable clientele THAT SHE HAS ... four (4) respectable, well-behaved, well-heeled, educated gents a day 4 1/2 days a week ... could be considered Good Duty!)😉 No? (How many providers out there ... would gladly sign off on THAT?)👍 My ATF's clients are not so much looking to get their $$$'s worth and MSOG... as they are indulging in the company and companionship of a Prime, DDG, Victoria's Secret Caliber K-Girl!☺️ And when they go out on the town ... Having Some Exotic-Looking, K-GIRL ARM CANDY!☺️ I always suspected My ATF had scores of Smitten Regulars ... and one night THIS happened: Mind you ... we always rendezvous the 1st Tuesday of the month at 9 pm! On this particular night as we were sharing a 750 ml bottle of Chimay Grande Reserve ... catching up and exchanging pleasantries prior to the evening's wanton DATY/DATO festivities ... I happened to be seated at the desk in her room ... and on the desk was her laptop that she forgot to turn off! I was situated in such a way ... that I had a full view of the laptop screen! And during that brief 15-minute timeframe in which we were exchanging pleasantries and catching up ... I couldn't help but notice what was popping up on her screen! Mind you ... it was 9 o'clock on a Tuesday night! (In terms of emails ... not much should be happening ... right?) WRONG! And let me tell you during that 15-minute timeframe she must have had, at least, ten (10) solicitous emails from hopelessly smitten clients ... lookin' to hookup, again! 🤪 OMG! "Hi Gorgeous!" "How's My Favorite K-Girl Doing?" "Really enjoyed last night!" "How about an afternoon delight on Thursday?" "You were rockin' in that schoolgirl outfit on Friday night!" "How about an early morning hookup tomorrow on my way to work?" "Did you read my review?" "Just bought a present for you!" "How about lunch sometime next week?" "Next time 2 hours!" "Thursday night was our first date ... it won't be the last!" OMG!😀 I was dumbfounded ... I couldn't believe what I was seein'! She's gotta be lovin' THIS! (All THESE solicitous emails within a 15-minute timeframe ... 9 o'clock on a Tuesday night, no less ... from hopelessly smitten clients!) WTF? She musta had her GFE Skill Set and Playbook on full display... with These Gents!😉 GOOD GOD ... the level of smitteness ... was Off the Charts! How many solicitous, hookup emails does she get during the week? During the month? (Like I said: Her dance card is always full!) Ya Gotta Luv IT!🤪 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 21 8 hours ago, Mature Andee said: I hope she’s giving her book her $40 on each hour that she works not just each call because for every hour that she’s in a call is an hour that can’t be booked. There is no way that anybody can be guaranteed 4 calls a day every working day every week. And then all this weekend stuff like this is girl not have a life? And you started off by telling us how she was low volume lol. If any of what you are saying is true, you are the most indiscreet client talking about personal details of a provider and her life and clients and then telling us that she launders her money. Not cool. Some people are very good at what they do ... and excel in their chosen profession!👍 Like any endeavor in life ... the Cream Always Comes to the Top! Ya gotta be street smart!😉 Anybody makin' a 1/4 mil a year (All Ca$h)... would be an Absolute Fool ... to tell the IRS the FULL EXTENT of HU$TLE! (That's where the fine art of laundering comes in!)😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 21 22 hours ago, Meaghan McLeod said: I agree with Andee, $300 for expenses is low. Booker is generally 25-40% of each booking. I always tipped my booker if I had a good day. Hotel is minimum $200-$400 depending on the type of suite booked. Any rewards points could be put towards her expenses, but most of us use them for our personal travel What about food? Girls gotta eat. Staying in hotels makes eating expensive. If she goes back to South Korea each year, the cost needs to be budgeted into her expenses. I imagine a cost of $5000-$7000 divided over 9 months so she has that covered. Where does she live while not working? That cost needs to be included in her expenses. I imagine she is able to get some of her clothes/heals in SK, reducing the costs, but going into Victoria Secret generally is a minimum of $500 each time. Louboutins start at $700 and go up from there. Granted, these are not daily expenses, but it adds up. I dont know about you, but do you ever call in sick for work? This industry means we dont get paid if we dont take calls. Are you taking this into consideration? Everyone needs time off, especially in an intimate industry. What about no shows and cancelations? Getting 17-18 calls consistently week after week is not likely. The long term ability to see that high volume is not sustainable. The numbers you are proposing she can "bank" are unrealistic. You cant "bank" money that is spent. Again, someone who claims to have an inside knowledge of this industry, sure has no clue of the actual costs associated with working. I have a quick question for you ... regarding the booker's take! In my case ... I've rendezvoused with My K-Girl ATF 78x! In my case ... since there is no more screening involved ... does he still get $40 for her $400 rate? (At this stage of the game ... he doesn't really do anything ... besides pencil my name in her schedule!) You claim: "Booker is generally 25-40% of each booking". I gotta seriously question that statement! (There's NWIH My ATF is giving her booker $160 (40% of $400)...for a date with me!) No Way! Now in regard to extensive screening for a first-time total stranger ... that's a totally different story ... that's where he earns his paycheck! But for My ATF whose schedule is probably composed of 99% smitten regulars ... he really doesn't do anything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179887 Report post Posted August 21 3 hours ago, victoryformation said: I have a quick question for you ... regarding the booker's take! In my case ... I've rendezvoused with My K-Girl ATF 78x! In my case ... since there is no more screening involved ... does he still get $40 for her $400 rate? (At this stage of the game ... he doesn't really do anything ... besides pencil my name in her schedule!) You claim: "Booker is generally 25-40% of each booking". I gotta seriously question that statement! (There's NWIH My ATF is giving her booker $160 (40% of $400)...for a date with me!) No Way! Now in regard to extensive screening for a first-time total stranger ... that's a totally different story ... that's where he earns his paycheck! But for My ATF whose schedule is probably composed of 99% smitten regulars ... he really doesn't do anything! Every single booking. Yes, I would be required to pay my booker. Its not so much the screening, as much as the ownership of the client. They introduced the client to me. If I choose to leave the "agency" or booker and advertise myself as an independent, I would not be able to give my client my contact info, without paying a fee to the booker. I would not be able to see my client off the books without repercussions. Some agencies will not allow providers to work in the same location without paying a severance fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 22 7 minutes ago, Meaghan McLeod said: Every single booking. Yes, I would be required to pay my booker. Its not so much the screening, as much as the ownership of the client. They introduced the client to me. If I choose to leave the "agency" or booker and advertise myself as an independent, I would not be able to give my client my contact info, without paying a fee to the booker. I would not be able to see my client off the books without repercussions. Some agencies will not allow providers to work in the same location without paying a severance fee. That's an interesting booker/provider setup ... you guys have! I'm not at all familiar with the booker assuming "ownership of the client" because he "introduced" the client to you! That's not the way it works ... in these parts! Here's how it worked with My K-Girl ATF: She initially struggled with her English! So it really was not practical for her to do the time-consuming minutiae of screening and back-and-forth with emails! So when she went indie ... she had the presence of mind to hire a street-smart, client of hers (when she worked at a K-Girl agency) ... to do all the screening, investigating, emailing and scheduling for her! At that time, because her English was limited, ... that was a real street-smart move on her behalf!😉 Here's how it works around here: The booker really does not "find" clients for the provider! His job description ... is not to "find" clients ... but to expertly screen clients! In this Bailiwick ... the provider has her own website ... and places ads at various escort websites! Once her ads (and her reviews) have piqued sufficient interest ...the prospective clients then contact her through her website! It is at that point that her booker takes over! At that point ... he handles the entire screening process... i.e. checking references, verifying work info, checking photo ID and running a police report! It is a time-consuming process! (Many of my ATF's prospective clients ... have complained that her booker's screening process is too strict and invasive ... and are not willing to jump thru the hoops!) It is what it is! He is exceedingly concerned ... about her safety first and foremost! And that's a good thing!👍 Once her booker ... determines that the prospective client is safe and legitimate ... he gives his stamp of approval ... and schedules an appointment ... and walks the client via emails through the eventual meet up process! (i.e. #### will text you her room # 5 minutes before the scheduled appointment; once in the room place the donation on the dresser in plain sight; then promptly take a shower.) My ATF is essentially out of the loop ... during the entire process! All she has to do ... is answer the door! And hope her booker was at the top of his game ... and had a safe, respectful, well-behaved, well-mannered, HNW gentleman ... step into her room!👍 Thus far the setup has worked out really well! (She's bankin' a 1/4 mil a year ... and has very, very few (almost none) ... problematic clients!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179887 Report post Posted August 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, victoryformation said: That's an interesting booker/provider setup ... you guys have! I'm not at all familiar with the booker assuming "ownership of the client" because he "introduced" the client to you! That's not the way it works ... in these parts! Here's how it worked with My K-Girl ATF: She initially struggled with her English! So it really was not practical for her to do the time-consuming minutiae of screening and back-and-forth with emails! So when she went indie ... she had the presence of mind to hire a street-smart, client of hers (when she worked at a K-Girl agency) ... to do all the screening, investigating, emailing and scheduling for her! At that time, because her English was limited, ... that was a real street-smart move on her behalf!😉 Here's how it works around here: The booker really does not "find" clients for the provider! His job description ... is not to "find" clients ... but to expertly screen clients! In this Bailiwick ... the provider has her own website ... and places ads at various escort websites! Once her ads (and her reviews) have piqued sufficient interest ...the prospective clients then contact her through her website! It is at that point that her booker takes over! At that point ... he handles the entire screening process... i.e. checking references, verifying work info, checking photo ID and running a police report! It is a time-consuming process! (Many of my ATF's prospective clients ... have complained that her booker's screening process is too strict and invasive ... and are not willing to jump thru the hoops!) It is what it is! He is exceedingly concerned ... about her safety first and foremost! And that's a good thing!👍 Once her booker ... determines that the prospective client is safe and legitimate ... he gives his stamp of approval ... and schedules an appointment ... and walks the client via emails through the eventual meet up process! (i.e. #### will text you her room # 5 minutes before the scheduled appointment; once in the room place the donation on the dresser in plain sight; then promptly take a shower.) My ATF is essentially out of the loop ... during the entire process! All she has to do ... is answer the door! And hope her booker was at the top of his game ... and had a safe, respectful, well-behaved, well-mannered, HNW gentleman ... step into her room!👍 Thus far the setup has worked out really well! (She's bankin' a 1/4 mil a year ... and has very, very few (almost none) ... problematic clients!) I guess I need to clarify the term "booker". As an independent, I can schedule my own appointments. I have a screening process, I advertise myself, create my website. I dont need a booker, especially a male to book my appointments. When I talk about a booker, I am referring to a pimp. Someone who decides when, who, how much, my appointments are. Especially a former client. Definitely a red flag. I have never had someone leak my client list. The fact your K-girl allowed you to see her email messages on her laptop, is a significant breach. Sorry, your continued insistance that you understand the industry is laughable. Especially, as you are in a country that escorting is illegal. Saying your K-girl is laundering money is even worse. Why are you disclosing illegal activity? You are only incriminating yourself. Thats how backpage got shut down. Bookers are illegal in the US. Especialĺy, if they are actively coordinating appointments or receiving earnings from a sex worker. Discretion is not your strong suit. I would drop a client in a heart beat if he was talking smack like you are. Give your head a shake. Edited August 22 by Meaghan McLeod 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 23 11 hours ago, Meaghan McLeod said: I guess I need to clarify the term "booker". As an independent, I can schedule my own appointments. I have a screening process, I advertise myself, create my website. I dont need a booker, especially a male to book my appointments. When I talk about a booker, I am referring to a pimp. Someone who decides when, who, how much, my appointments are. Especially a former client. Definitely a red flag. I have never had someone leak my client list. The fact your K-girl allowed you to see her email messages on her laptop, is a significant breach. Sorry, your continued insistance that you understand the industry is laughable. Especially, as you are in a country that escorting is illegal. Saying your K-girl is laundering money is even worse. Why are you disclosing illegal activity? You are only incriminating yourself. Thats how backpage got shut down. Bookers are illegal in the US. Especialĺy, if they are actively coordinating appointments or receiving earnings from a sex worker. Discretion is not your strong suit. I would drop a client in a heart beat if he was talking smack like you are. Give your head a shake.l j Wait a minute! You're only telling part of the story! (And it's heavily skewed!) You are omitting a very important part of the story! You're leaving out ... the Good Part! If the truth be told: My glowing reviews of My ATF put her on the map ... and started her on a trajectory toward, In-Demand, GFE Superstardom!😁 I first hooked up with her when she was a Tentative, Sweet-Natured, 19-year-old, Ingenue, K-Girl Pup ... testing the indie waters ... sheepish and apologetic about her fractured English! At that point in her fledgling career ... she was an UTR relative Unknown ... not yet able to separate herself from The Common Herd!🤨 (THAT IS UNTIL I STARTED WRITING REVIEWS about HER!) And ... things started to change quickly for HER! Having rendezvoused with her 78x ... I wrote dozens of glowing reviews praising her GFE Skill Set and Playbook 👍👍... THAT piqued the interest of discerning gents! (The type of gents ... you want to step into your room!)😊 In those reviews ... I marveled at her Bodaciousness and Bootyliciousness! Her Silky, Beautiful Skin! And expounded upon My DATY/DATO Indulgences!😁 The more reviews I wrote ... the more interest was piqued in her! The more reviews I wrote ... the more dates she got! (She started to get booked up ... fast!) And the more dates she got ... the more reviews she got from other clients!👍 It started a snowball effect!☺️ And the snowball effect ... led to fully-booked schedules! What really put her on the radar of the discerning cognoscenti😉... was when a called her a G.O.G.P. ... in one of my reviews! (G.O.G.P. = Goddess of Guilty Pleasures)😀 THAT ... set My Brother Mongers OFF! As a result ... she started to become a GFE BRAND! She picked up on IT and started to Brand and Market herself ... which led to even more dates! (She had her booker ... working overtime!)🤪 Of all the glowing reviews I wrote about her ... one in particular ... set her over the top and took her to the next level ... and launched her career into the 1/4-mil-a-year, GFE-Superstar $trato$phere!😎 I quoted The Great Bard: This is a creature, Would she begin a sect, might quench the zeal Of all professors else; make proselytes Of who she but bid follow. THAT William Shakespeare Quote ... resonated with My Educated, Discerning, Brother Mongers ... who were lookin' to indulge in Prime, Nubile, DDG, K-Girl, GFE Pussy! (The trajectory of her career ... took off like a rocket ship!)😁 SHE NEVER LOOKED BACK! She had to turn enquiring newbies (who wanted to see for themselves what all the shoutin' was about) ... AWAY! It started a feeding frenzy for her GFE Companionship! She was on her way to attaining ... GFE Superstar Status!😇 ps You portray me as a Bad Guy .... and DON'T mention THIS PART of The Story! You perpetrate a False Narrative ... about how it all Really Went Down! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179887 Report post Posted August 24 (edited) 23 hours ago, victoryformation said: j Wait a minute! You're only telling part of the story! (And it's heavily skewed!) You are omitting a very important part of the story! You're leaving out ... the Good Part! If the truth be told: My glowing reviews of My ATF put her on the map ... and started her on a trajectory toward, In-Demand, GFE Superstardom!😁 I first hooked up with her when she was a Tentative, Sweet-Natured, 19-year-old, Ingenue, K-Girl Pup ... testing the indie waters ... sheepish and apologetic about her fractured English! At that point in her fledgling career ... she was an UTR relative Unknown ... not yet able to separate herself from The Common Herd!🤨 (THAT IS UNTIL I STARTED WRITING REVIEWS about HER!) And ... things started to change quickly for HER! Having rendezvoused with her 78x ... I wrote dozens of glowing reviews praising her GFE Skill Set and Playbook 👍👍... THAT piqued the interest of discerning gents! (The type of gents ... you want to step into your room!)😊 In those reviews ... I marveled at her Bodaciousness and Bootyliciousness! Her Silky, Beautiful Skin! And expounded upon My DATY/DATO Indulgences!😁 The more reviews I wrote ... the more interest was piqued in her! The more reviews I wrote ... the more dates she got! (She started to get booked up ... fast!) And the more dates she got ... the more reviews she got from other clients!👍 It started a snowball effect!☺️ And the snowball effect ... led to fully-booked schedules! What really put her on the radar of the discerning cognoscenti😉... was when a called her a G.O.G.P. ... in one of my reviews! (G.O.G.P. = Goddess of Guilty Pleasures)😀 THAT ... set My Brother Mongers OFF! As a result ... she started to become a GFE BRAND! She picked up on IT and started to Brand and Market herself ... which led to even more dates! (She had her booker ... working overtime!)🤪 Of all the glowing reviews I wrote about her ... one in particular ... set her over the top and took her to the next level ... and launched her career into the 1/4-mil-a-year, GFE-Superstar $trato$phere!😎 I quoted The Great Bard: This is a creature, Would she begin a sect, might quench the zeal Of all professors else; make proselytes Of who she but bid follow. THAT William Shakespeare Quote ... resonated with My Educated, Discerning, Brother Mongers ... who were lookin' to indulge in Prime, Nubile, DDG, K-Girl, GFE Pussy! (The trajectory of her career ... took off like a rocket ship!)😁 SHE NEVER LOOKED BACK! She had to turn enquiring newbies (who wanted to see for themselves what all the shoutin' was about) ... AWAY! It started a feeding frenzy for her GFE Companionship! She was on her way to attaining ... GFE Superstar Status!😇 ps You portray me as a Bad Guy .... and DON'T mention THIS PART of The Story! You perpetrate a False Narrative ... about how it all Really Went Down! I am not leaving out the good part. I am pointing out the truly significant breeches. A former client that is now her "booker". In our world, he is someone who preys on vulnerable women. You have mentioned numerous times English is not her first language. I highly doubt she understands the laws in the US. Prostitution is illegal in the US, and you are risking her safety and security. The booker, clients (you), and her are all breaking the law. You repeatedly give details of sexual services you purchase, and is a dead give away of someone who chooses not to be discreet. Her booker leaked her email list. Enough that you publicly published enough details of who they are. A significant breech. She allowed her laptop to be open, and for 15 minutes, you were able to read client messages. Even if only the notifications this is another significant breech. Your appointments are typically an hour (at the grandfathered rate!), so how did you have access to her laptop? You, have publicly stated things, like how she "launders" her money. It doesnt take much to put 2 and 2 together, to figure out specific details. I find it interesting that you give details of when you see her. Times and dates. Yet, you continue to say you've seen her 78 times. For months. Wouldn't that amount have gone up? I said it before, you remind me of "Dear Penthouse" from the 70's. Things that are either not true, or so very wrong, you have no clue the damage of what you are doing. Continue trying to plug your K-Girl, she is better off without you. We, in Canada do things differently, because our laws are different. However, we dont tolerate predators here. Especially clients that put us at risk. Human Trafficking is a serious concern, especially marginalized women who are at risk of being deported. You are someone who has no clue how dangerous you are to her. She needs to fire you. Edited August 24 by Meaghan McLeod 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 25 14 hours ago, Meaghan McLeod said: I am not leaving out the good part. I am pointing out the truly significant breeches. A former client that is now her "booker". In our world, he is someone who preys on vulnerable women. You have mentioned numerous times English is not her first language. I highly doubt she understands the laws in the US. Prostitution is illegal in the US, and you are risking her safety and security. The booker, clients (you), and her are all breaking the law. You repeatedly give details of sexual services you purchase, and is a dead give away of someone who chooses not to be discreet. Her booker leaked her email list. Enough that you publicly published enough details of who they are. A significant breech. She allowed her laptop to be open, and for 15 minutes, you were able to read client messages. Even if only the notifications this is another significant breech. Your appointments are typically an hour (at the grandfathered rate!), so how did you have access to her laptop? You, have publicly stated things, like how she "launders" her money. It doesnt take much to put 2 and 2 together, to figure out specific details. I find it interesting that you give details of when you see her. Times and dates. Yet, you continue to say you've seen her 78 times. For months. Wouldn't that amount have gone up? I said it before, you remind me of "Dear Penthouse" from the 70's. Things that are either not true, or so very wrong, you have no clue the damage of what you are doing. Continue trying to plug your K-Girl, she is better off without you. We, in Canada do things differently, because our laws are different. However, we dont tolerate predators here. Especially clients that put us at risk. You are someone who has no clue how dangerous you are to her. She needs to fire you. No Harm ... No Foul!😉 Such paranoia! You got IT all wrong!👎 Nothing bad ever happened! Nobody got hurt! Nobody was compromised! Nobody's identity was ever revealed. Okay ... her booker did commit a serious breech ... in a panic during a snowstorm! It happens! (But that's about the only time ... he f##ked up!) If you really think about IT ... He and I gave My K-Girl ATF a Serious 1-2 Punch in her career!👍👍 We put wind in her sails! Her hiring him (a regular) as her booker ... was a Stroke of Pure Genius!😉 (That's how street-smart she is!) The advantages and insights that WE provided her ... were Bigtime Force Multipliers for the trajectory of her career! Ya think? His street-smart, strict, screening protocol ... ensuring that only play-by-the-rules, well-behaved, respectable gents (No Ted Bundys or Backpage Refugees) ... step into her room ... combined with my glowing (She's a Goddess of Guilty Pleasures) reviews ... got her to the $250,000-a-year PROMISED LAND!😁 IN FOUR (4) F##KIN' YEARS! That's what WE did!👍👍 WE were instrumental ... in making a Sweet-Natured, Eager-to-Learn, 19-Year-Old, "I sorry I know my English ... is not so much", K-Girl Ingenue ... a BONA-FIDE, GFE SUPERSTAR ... in 4 Years! We got her to the 1/4-Mil-a-Year Mountain Top .... in 4 years! (She was definitely in the TOP 1% ... of ALL PROVIDER$!) No? And ... her English GOT GOOD!👍 (She even lost her endearing Korean accent!) Ya Gotta Luv It! (What do you say to THAT?)😉 ps How many Just-Starting-Out, Neophyte, Newbie Providers ... Looking 4 Pointers ...would love to have 2 Street-Smart, Heavy-Hitters ... like US ... mentoring them? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 27 How many reviews do you think you must garner ...in order to establish GFE street cred with the discerning cognoscenti ... who are not to be trifled with ... who know what they want ... and know what they're looking for? (Before I pulled the trigger on My ATF ... she had thirty-seven (37)!) 37 reviews ... cannot be shilled or faked! My $0.02: A savvy, street-smart monger ... intuitively knows that assiduously reading a provider's reviews is the best way to separate the wheat from chaff ... and effectively connect the dots ... and get a "read" on her! (To ascertain the GFE contenders ... from the GFE pretenders!) To figure out who has "GFE Game" ... and who doesn't! To determine who has a bona-fide GFE skill set and playbook ... and who does not! There is no better way! (Anyone who posits that there is a better way ... lacks street-smarts and real-world, boots-on-the-ground experience!) My $0.02. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted August 30 (edited) You know what I think? I think Mr. victory you would love to have a pussy and make the kind of money that you claim this girl makes. So because you can’t, you are living vicariously through her and you know what nobody gives a shit you can prop her up all you want, but at the end of the day, what does it really have to do with any of us? We are not in New Jersey so you are not a prospective client and if you were, you would get past my screening and second of all none of the clients on this board are likely to ever see her. So what’s the point? So a while ago, when you published her name which starts with the letter R, I caught it before you edited your post. I looked her up, but she doesn’t even have a website and she doesn’t even advertise on any of the reputable US sites such as Eros or Tryst. You need to back off or I will publish her name for everybody to see so they can go look for themselves as to how much of a bullshitter you are. Edited August 30 by Mature Andee 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted August 31 12 hours ago, Mature Andee said: You know what I think? I think Mr. victory you would love to have a pussy and make the kind of money that you claim this girl makes. So because you can’t, you are living vicariously through her and you know what nobody gives a shit you can prop her up all you want, but at the end of the day, what does it really have to do with any of us? We are not in New Jersey so you are not a prospective client and if you were, you would get past my screening and second of all none of the clients on this board are likely to ever see her. So what’s the point? So a while ago, when you published her name which starts with the letter R, I caught it before you edited your post. I looked her up, but she doesn’t even have a website and she doesn’t even advertise on any of the reputable US sites such as Eros or Tryst. You need to back off or I will publish her name for everybody to see so they can go look for themselves as to how much of a bullshitter you are. Let me address these points! (One at a time!) Living "vicariously through her"! (There is, definitely, an element of truth to that!) Cuz ... I saw how the whole Goddamn thing played out!😉 It is rather gratifying to have a front-row seat ... and witness the impressive trajectory of a provider's career ... who essentially started from nothing! It is rather gratifying ... to bear witness to a rags-to-riches, success story! It's extremely gratifying to see a "mentee" ... master her GFE craft ... develop a GFE playbook and skill set .... and rise to the top of her profession! It is rather gratifying ... to see the evolution of a Genuine GFE Superstar ... from a sheepish, demure "I sorry ... I know my English is not so much" ... to one of the G.O.A.T. that she eventually grew into! It was an improbable ... and most interesting journey! I vividly remember our 1st rendezvous (like it was yesterday) ... she could never have possibly envisioned ... the improbable journey she was about to take! She could have never imagined in her wildest dreams ... that hopelessly smitten regulars would buy her flowers, chocolates and lottery tickets ... and fork over $400 to lick her pussy and eat her asshole!🤪 Very, very, very few providers out there ... reported for such enviable duty!☺️ Ya think? Would you have signed off on THAT? (And to know that I was highly instrumental and had a direct hand in IT .... and my "Goddess-of-Guilty-Pleasures" reviews ... got it all started!) Those reviews seriously piqued the interest of the Discerning Cognoscenti ... lookin' to indulge in Prime, K-Girl, GFE Pussy! My G.O.G.P reviews ... had discerning mongers battling morning, rush-hour traffic ...so they could "hit IT first thing in the morning"!☺️ (Her normal hours of operation were 10 to 10 ... but some days she had to start at 7 in the morning ...in order to accommodate her devoted, early-morning regs on their way to work!) Mongers on one website were so smitten ... they had their own ####'s Saturday morning fan club! a.k.a. "####'s Raiders"! Ya gotta luv it! (Where they gleefully exchanged prurient details about their hookups ... and expounded upon her GFE skill set and playbook!) She had smitten regs ... crossing state lines (from Staten Island and NYC)!😀 She had 'em drivin' and an hour (each way) ... on the NJ Turnpike! (She had regs tellin' their wives on a Saturday morning ... that they were going to Home Depot to pick up some lawn fertilizer!😄) Ya Gotta Luv IT! ps When you were doing your investigating (hellbent on proofing me a "bullshitter") ... did you discover that she had 279 reviews on TER? (And that's only on one (1) site ... how about her reviews on TNA and BestGFE?) There's NWIH a provider can garner that many reviews ... unless she's a Genuine Goddess of Guilty Pleasures ... and possibly the G.O.A.T.!☺️ Get real! psii In regard to: "you are not a perspective client and if you were, you would [sic] get past my screening" (You meant "not" ... right?) Anyways ... if I were ever to request a date ... you would never turn me down! Get real! You'd be waggin' your tail ... when I stepped into your room!👍 As far as turning me down: Flowers, chocolates, lottery tickets ... Well-Mannered, Well-Groomed and Well-Behaved ... and licking your pussy and eating your asshole! Give it up! Turn me down! Yeah .. Okay! GET REAL!😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul0331 65 Report post Posted September 2 On 8/30/2026 at 12:47 AM, Mature Andee said: You know what I think? I think Mr. victory you would love to have a pussy and make the kind of money that you claim this girl makes. So because you can’t, you are living vicariously through her and you know what nobody gives a shit you can prop her up all you want, but at the end of the day, what does it really have to do with any of us? We are not in New Jersey so you are not a prospective client and if you were, you would get past my screening and second of all none of the clients on this board are likely to ever see her. So what’s the point? So a while ago, when you published her name which starts with the letter R, I caught it before you edited your post. I looked her up, but she doesn’t even have a website and she doesn’t even advertise on any of the reputable US sites such as Eros or Tryst. You need to back off or I will publish her name for everybody to see so they can go look for themselves as to how much of a bullshitter you are. Maybe this will shut this guy up I think we are all sick and tired of his stupidity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted September 3 17 hours ago, Paul0331 said: Maybe this will shut this guy up I think we are all sick and tired of his stupidity My Bad! You're absolutely right! Advising diffident newbies, in need of mentorship, about to embark on their maiden voyage ... to do their homework before pulling the trigger on a provider ... is shear "stupidity" on my behalf! Advising newbies to do their homework ... and make themselves "students of the game" ... and learn how to connect the dots ... is terrible advice and abject "stupidity"! Advising newbies about to embark on their maiden voyage to: 1) Employ street-smarts. 2) Assiduously read reviews (the more reviews a provider has ... the better). 3) Peruse websites (providers who are true professionals at the top of their game ... have well-thought-out websites). 4) Know that all providers are not created equal ... learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff. 5) Through reviews ...identify providers who have bona-fide GFE skill sets and playbooks. 6) When going to the hookup spot ... maintain situational awareness at all times. 7) Avoid hotels that are pimp-infested, shithole dumps ... where the possibility of getting pimp-rolled is very real. 8. Once you've done your homework and decided to pull the trigger ... and the appointment has been made: Show up on time; be well-groomed; be well-mannered; be surgically-scrubbed; bring a token gift and be quick with a complement. 9) Upon entering her room ... promptly place the donation on the dresser in full view. 10) When your time is up ... don't be loitering in her room talking shit and asking inappropriate, personal questions ... get the f##k out. 11) Shoot her a good-night ... "Had a great time" email. (Newbies: The OP is 100% correct ... when he says such advice is of no import ... and is absolute "stupidity"!)😎 Go figure! ps Newbies: See what helpful advice the OP gives you ... when you are about to embark on your maiden voyage in the hobbyl!😉 (Let's see if he can improve upon my "stupidity"!) Don't be surprised ... if he comes up empty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179887 Report post Posted September 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, victoryformation said: My Bad! You're absolutely right! Advising diffident newbies, in need of mentorship, about to embark on their maiden voyage ... to do their homework before pulling the trigger on a provider ... is shear "stupidity" on my behalf! Advising newbies to do their homework ... and make themselves "students of the game" ... and learn how to connect the dots ... is terrible advice and abject "stupidity"! Advising newbies about to embark on their maiden voyage to: 1) Employ street-smarts. 2) Assiduously read reviews (the more reviews a provider has ... the better). 3) Peruse websites (providers who are true professionals at the top of their game ... have well-thought-out websites). 4) Know that all providers are not created equal ... learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff. 5) Through reviews ...identify providers who have bona-fide GFE skill sets and playbooks. 6) When going to the hookup spot ... maintain situational awareness at all times. 7) Avoid hotels that are pimp-infested, shithole dumps ... where the possibility of getting pimp-rolled is very real. 8. Once you've done your homework and decided to pull the trigger ... and the appointment has been made: Show up on time; be well-groomed; be well-mannered; be surgically-scrubbed; bring a token gift and be quick with a complement. 9) Upon entering her room ... promptly place the donation on the dresser in full view. 10) When your time is up ... don't be loitering in her room talking shit and asking inappropriate, personal questions ... get the f##k out. 11) Shoot her a good-night ... "Had a great time" email. (Newbies: The OP is 100% correct ... when he says such advice is of no import ... and is absolute "stupidity"!)😎 Go figure! ps Newbies: See what helpful advice the OP gives you ... when you are about to embark on your maiden voyage in the hobbyl!😉 (Let's see if he can improve upon my "stupidity"!) Don't be surprised ... if he comes up empty! You really don't get it. You've been called out numerous times by both providers and hobbyists. Your insistance that you "understand the game", is ludicrous. Your advice doesn't work here in Canada. You partake in an industry where your favorite K-Girl is likely trafficked (being from South Korea, with minimal understanding of language and laws). Her booker is a former client turned pimp. He leaked an email list, that you published! You, have leaked details about her business model that includes money laundering. Enough information that I, as a basic citizen have been able to put 2 and 2 together. Can you imagine what the FBI can garner? The gall that you have claimed "YOU" have been able to raise her up the ranks, is laughable. Shilling sites is not business, any legitimate provider wants. Of course, hobbyists dont want to take advice from someone who has a narrow view of the actual industry. That does not work in Canada. Of course, because of your indiscrestion, she has been identified. She has no working website. Your claim to have seen her 78 times over 5 years, which means you see her monthly (at grandfathered rates, which mean she has to suppliment you). Its been six months since you joined Lyla, and its still 78 times. So, you havent seen her since you joined? Did she fire you? Was the whip cream too much? Did the maid service turn her in? Or was it getting her to bail you out of jail for DUI??? Spying on her clients? Spilling the beans here? Yup. I suspect that was the kicker that killed the mood. Your input is not welcome here. Fellow lyla hobbyists and providers, I suggest this self proclaimed expert knows nothing beyond his narrow pea brained limp dik. Do not listen to his self proclaimed expertise. Here on lyla, we do not advertise sexual services. Stating things like "I licked her asshole, pussy, with whipped cream" is against the rules. You continue to break the rules, because you like to brag, and have no discretion. I would never see you! Just like many of us here in Canada. We don't want your crap. Enough. Go back to the sites that work in the USA. Oh shit, I forgot, you're not welcome there either. Enough!!!! Edited September 4 by Meaghan McLeod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul0331 65 Report post Posted September 4 This guy never gives it a break or realizes that he’s not wanted here Any new person can ask me any question and know I will give them an honest answer the same as most of us here weather it be a provider or client we are all here to help and not get scammed but to have an enjoyable time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victoryformation 27 Report post Posted September 5 2 hours ago, Paul0331 said: This guy never gives it a break or realizes that he’s not wanted here Any new person can ask me any question and know I will give them an honest answer the same as most of us here weather it be a provider or client we are all here to help and not get scammed but to have an enjoyable time Why is a fellow monger who's been deep in the hobby trenches (with over 100 rendezvous with Highly-GFE-Skilled, High-End K-Girls (one in particular) ... and has had extensive boots on the ground hobby experience(s) ... who wishes to impart his insights and extensive knowledge of the hobby to newbies who are about to embark on their maiden voyage ... so that it will be a safe, drama-free, smooth-sailing, edifying adventure for them ... WHY is he "not wanted here"? I'm drawin' a blank ... on THIS! Help me out on THIS! I musta missed the memo!😯 In any endeavor in life (but especially in mongering and finding the quintessential ATF ) ... mentorship is very important! No? Procuring a DDG, BODACIOUS, BOOTYLICIOUS ATF😁 ... can be a life-long pursuit! (Some mongers ... never find IT!) How is it possible for a fellow monger who has extensive boots-on-the-ground hobby experience ...to give a detailed step-by-step mentoring and coaching process to neophyte, newbies about to embark on their maiden voyage (it's a essentially a primer on how to be a street-smart monger and flatten your learning curve) ... i.e. how to assiduously read (between the lines) reviews; how to peruse websites; how to effectively separate the wheat from the ersatz chaff; how to not waste their time and $$$ on ineffectual providers; how not to be lured in by heavily photoshopped pics and embellished bios;👎 how to avoid frivolous Drama Queens; how to avoid pimped-out, skanky hood rats; how not to hook up with providers on problematic, scammy websites like Skip the Games, Escort Alligator and Escort Babylon; how to avoid bottom-feeding providers who cater to Backpage refugees; how to hook up with a true professional at the top of her game with a bona-fide GFE skill set and playbook looking to make a name for herself and to establish herself as a Bona-Fide GFE Brand; how to strike the GFE Mother Lode by hooking up with a Bodacious, Bootylicious, Surgically-Scrubbed, GFE Superstar; how to improve their hobby "game" and take IT to the next level ... by indulging their date in wanton DATY and DATO (with Reddi Wip)🤪; how to get invited back with cordial, solicitous, Sunday-morning emails; and how for HIM to be designated a PROVIDER'S ATF 😉.... how can a monger who provides such invaluable insights to unsure-of-themselves, neophyte newbies about to embark on their maiden voyage ... be declared a pariah on a hobby website? How could he be declared a Persona Non Grata? WTF? He's doing ... a valuable service to the newbie community! (He's telling the newbies ... HOW to FLATTEN their LEARNING CURVE!)👍 No? (He should be charging good $$$ ... for such on-point advice!)😉 Isn't there anybody out there (especially the newbies)... looking for a seasoned monger who's been in the hobby trenches .... to Give Them Some Pointers... and SHOW THEM HOW IT'S DONE? WTF? THEY ... musta missed the memo, too!😕 (They'll learn the hard way!) You would think such mentorship and coaching ... would be encouraged on a hobby website!👍 I Don't get IT? I can get a newbie Up to Speed, to the Top of the Hobby Food Chain and to the GFE Mountaintop ...in no time flat!** Like I said: I musta missed the memo!😯 ** However: If the neophyte newbies about to embark on their maiden voyage (or seasoned mongers for that matter) ... choose not to benefit from my well-considered, in-the-trenches advice, direction and mentorship ...and instead don't wanna flatten their learning curve and want to learn the "game" the hard way ... by frustrating (and often fruitless) trial and error ... THAT'S on THEM! I've done my part! You know what they say: "You can lead a horse to water ... but you can't make him drink."😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prufrock's Back 173 Report post Posted September 5 I blocked this idiot 3 months ago but unfortunately I can see his notes when people quote him. Ignore his BS. He only wants attention, the less he receives, he will go elsewhere. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted September 5 19 hours ago, Paul0331 said: This guy never gives it a break or realizes that he’s not wanted here Any new person can ask me any question and know I will give them an honest answer the same as most of us here weather it be a provider or client we are all here to help and not get scammed but to have an enjoyable time His girl was 28 12 years ago so I’m not sure how he can take the credit for building her business over the last four years, which is how long he says she’s been around. I haven’t published her name yet, but if you wanna know who she is just message me. I’m thinking of sending her an email if her email address is actually still valid because her website isn’t, and telling her about this jerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul0331 65 Report post Posted September 5 5 hours ago, Mature Andee said: His girl was 28 12 years ago so I’m not sure how he can take the credit for building her business over the last four years, which is how long he says she’s been around. I haven’t published her name yet, but if you wanna know who she is just message me. I’m thinking of sending her an email if her email address is actually still valid because her website isn’t, and telling her about this jerk Do it!!!!!! this guy needs to be put in his place!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mature Andee 94 Report post Posted September 6 10 hours ago, Paul0331 said: Do it!!!!!! this guy needs to be put in his place!!!!!!!! I really don’t need any backlash online. If she’s stupid enough to have him as a client, then they deserve each each other. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites