Web sites? Are they really needed?

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Al thought it is not illegal to have one, I would imagine however that it would be used against you if you were to go to court. From what I can see, most websites go into very close detail of activities and prices of services. I took mine down for this reason. I can just as easily address each person who inquires into my ads, with out having to spend the big bucks, or risking it to be used against me. Just wondering why some think it is so necessary, or is it just a status?

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Having a website for me was very useful with new clients, because all the information was readily available to them. At this point in time, I only see a few new people each month so I haven't been motivated to make a new site. My regulars don't really need one.

 

I can't see how it could be used against you in court. What charge would they use it for? It's not illegal to solicit in cyberspace.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Well Megan, I was told this by a reliable sours, that it can be used to build on evidence, Even tho cyber space is not a `place" the charge would not come from that, but just evidence building.I could be wrong, but this makes since to me. I mean if you were ever brought in, it is awful hard to say, no I dont do that! I dunno, I just feel like mine was expensive to upkeep, and like you, my reg know what I offer, and new ones can read my ads and call me for more detail.

[Dorinda Bloom 44036]

I have found that having a website is an invaluable tool in my business. While not everyone goes to websites immediately and reads each word carefully I know that some of the gents (and ladies) DO - making my life that much easier. If I had to respond to each request in the detail that I can provide in a website I would never be able to do any 'work'.

I really don't feel any fear in regards to this.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Well Megan, I was told this by a reliable sours, that it can be used to build on evidence, Even tho cyber space is not a `place" the charge would not come from that, but just evidence building.I could be wrong, but this makes since to me. I mean if you were ever brought in, it is awful hard to say, no I dont do that! I dunno, I just feel like mine was expensive to upkeep, and like you, my reg know what I offer, and new ones can read my ads and call me for more detail.

Evidence for what? What would the charge be? Solicitation? Bawdy house? Living off the avails?

[capitalman 3861]

I appreciate a website, whether it's beautiful or a homemade freesite. I like to find all the information about a girl in one location instead of trying to scan ads and search cerb or whatever for little snippets here and there. It's nice to know I can find photos and contact information in one location.

 

As a small business owner myself, I would NEVER go without a website and I expect all business owners that are serious to have one. It's just how it is now.

 

Things like Yellow Pages, newspapers, discussion boards (yes like this one) come and go but your website is your one constant.

[qwertyaccount 15793]

A website will save a lot of unnecessary phone calls from people looking for something that you don't offer or they can't afford and perhaps a few tire kickers.

 

I'm certain some of the lawyers will chime in, but I think Megan is right - what sort of charges are you worried about?

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Well I offer in calls, which is considered illegal, is it not? Now most often the city will look the other way, unless you are creating a problem in a residential area such as too much traffic in and out, but here in small town Fredericton, I do have to consider the neighborhood and keeping very discreet and quiet about what is going on in here.

Really doesn`t matter what charge it is, it is all evidence building.

I know someone personally who went through this, she is now under house arrest for 1 year.( ironic huh?lol) and yes they used her site as evidence.( however she is an agency too, which the city does not like at all...)

[Boomer 33202]

I think this just another tool of the trade. Not all clients use the same sources for information, and a web site is your way to get your image established the way you want it. If the authorities were to decide that they want to go after you I believe they would have to catch you in the act, have direct evidence or complaint that you are indeed committing some crime. Being an escort is not a crime, and if you are discrete I don't think you would be pursued if you entertain at home in a quiet manner and don't arouse your neighbors.

 

If the police decide you aren't welcome they have ways of letting you know it's time to move on.

[Guest s******ecan****]

Ok but by that logic isn't CERB even just as (if not more so) incrimidating?

[mrrnice2 157005]

I personally enjoy the fact that some of the women do have their own personal websites. One can find additional information that is not as readily accessible through CERB and a website also gives me an additional "sense" of professsionalism.

 

Furthermore, the websites that are self designed rather than the ones that use pre-existing templates always seem to me to give more of a sense of the person.

 

All of that being said, if Sophia and Cat are correct and a website is something that can be used against you, then I could easily find my sense of the 'person behind the woman' through CERB postings and forum contributions.

 

The way that an SP presents herself, through whatever medium, is a factor for me.

[Amelia Fox 9064]

I also agree with Sophia.

I had a website,and still got inquiries about services.I wouldn't say it's a waste of money but I do know for certain that if you were ever charged with solicitation whether it be a girl on the streets or an under cover police officer trying to crack down on SP's providing sex in there homes,the crown prosecutor would Most Definitely look into all your business and use it against you.(prostitution is illegal) and websites state rates,and services so if that's not a give away then what is.

Not to say that websites are not a useful tool,however in my opinion(and I stress MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION) I took my down just because to me it was useless. I don't want every Tom dick n hairy knowing services I provide,rates, etc.. Maybe use a website that shows photos,services but not rates,to keep your mind at ease.

OR just post on here?

Your a smart girl do what is best for Sophia! And remember peoples opinions don't really matter when it comes to your safety,and mental well being.

 

Additional Comments:

Really?

How many people are on CERB intentionally trying to get someone in trouble??

None! It's others out there that don't understand or want to about this lifestyle that can cause trouble.

Enough said about this from me. Cudos to the ladies that have website,good luck wish you all the best,hope there useful to you,and for those who don't get used to typing your speal every time some one inquiries lol.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

... prostitution is illegal....

 

Prostitution is legal. But as discussed earlier in this thread, running an incall location (among other things) is not.

 

... Really? How many people are on CERB intentionally trying to get someone in trouble?? None! ....

 

Without being alarmist, I think we can be reasonably sure that all sorts of folks are present/lurk on Cerb and other escort boards - including trouble-making types, LE, etc etc.

 

It goes without saying that it's always the lady's choice as to where or how to promote herself - and to do so for whatever reasons seem right, effective, or safe to her.

[EmilyRushton 253346]

I don't want every Tom dick n hairy knowing services I provide,rates, etc.. Maybe use a website that shows photos,services but not rates,to keep your mind at ease.

 

No offence, but if you don't wish to advertise your services then don't - I have none listed on my website and it has never caused an issue. A gentlemen looking for a companion and not a pick your own menu can read between the lines as to what is available. A website is an invaluable tool and says a-lot about who you are as a companion. If you are that paranoid about getting busted and having things used against you, maybe you are in the wrong profession or need to re-evaluate how you are running your business. I am confused though, you would rather list services than a donation?

[Guest **cely***r***ne]

While some may find a website impertinent to their business, I do not entirely agree with it.

 

I have a website, it is a free one I created through escort-site.com. It is far from being professional, however it has everything on it that people are interested to know. For me, I only use my website to blog, and to update my schedule.

 

I do not advertise my services as I am personal on this. Interested clients who have questions are always able to ask if I provide what they are looking for. (If they havent read it in my cerb add)

 

IMO, I think it is up to the SP if she feels the need to have a site or not.

[cat 262460]

Ok but by that logic isn't CERB even just as (if not more so) incrimidating?

 

Yes, CERB is as incriminating as a website when it comes to the Crown building a case against you. It's the risk we all take in order to do business. Gone are the days of classified ads with nothing but a phone number to link us to the ad itself. Now we have a plethora of identifying information out there and the chances of getting out of a charge is almost nil if LE decides to come after you. I cannot stress strongly enough that the risk is usually from within. Ex partners, jealous coworkers, vindictive frienimies and nosy neighbors are the dangerous factors most of the time.

A website is a tool to use but not the only tool. It does take more time and patience to answer each and every inquiry but it is doable. I have never had a website and I am not sure I will ever want one. I prefer to communicate directly with guests to ensure we are a good fit and I'm not inclined to say "go look at my website" to answer their questions. Part of niche I service is that all of my guest inquiries are attended to by me. That is my personal preference and it suits my business model. Some websites are an excellent tool to offer insight into the provider, others are not. A website does not eliminate the questions that are asked by clients even when the answers are online. I don't think a website is mandatory but it can make life simpler for some. Not having one is a personal choice.

cat

[pampurr 392]

CERB is a website of course, but I prefer to also look at the information that is available on a personal site as this site restricts what can be posted.

[cat 262460]

CERB is a website of course, but I prefer to also look at the information that is available on a personal site as this site restricts what can be posted.

 

In addition to the obvious rate & location questions, many personal sites include more risque pictures, including photo's of pussy. I like a woman who is a little frisky and the greater freedom associated with what photo's are selected provides an (perhaps imagined) indication to me of how open and frisky the ultimate service will be, as I make the (perhaps erroneous!) assumption that the more comfortable a woman is with a photo of herself totally nude and in a very sexy position, the more she sexily she will be moving when we get together.

 

And the faster her ex will get custody of her children and ensure supervised visitation forever thereafter no matter how much time has passed since the pictures were online. Everything we put out there has the potential to come back and bite us in the ass.

 

The types of pictures made public by an SP are not a guarantee of the type of experience one will have when visiting a provider. IMHO.

 

 

cat

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Yes I agree with you Cat, I prefer to be personable and appraochable, I like being able to answer the individual`s questions regarding my service. It is time consuming, but really like to deal with each inquiry personally. Especially as Your millage may vary, I may not always offer the same service options to EVERYone I meet.

In addition, however, I see why it would be easier for some, especially if you are not able to have the time to adress each inquiry.

[ottawaadventurer 5114]

The idea that the level of nudity on a website is an indication of the level of service is absolutely ridiculous. In fact, that assumption makes clearer to me the posts of late where providers have "vented" about how they are perceived.

 

I feel that being a respected client means understanding the world of the provider. The risks. The implications. The issues at play. If you actually think that a woman showing her wide-open pussy on display for you is some indication o what the services will be like, I assume that they would rather not see you.

 

Sigh. To all the wonderful and patient women on CERB, I apologize for this Neanderthal.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Yes, so true, Ottawa Adventure, Why show it all, when this is what I get paid for? I dont want evryone to see all, then why come here to see me then, no mystery left to that. Most ppl find consealing a bit for the date much more excitting:)

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

I have a website and it's served me very, very well for a long time. It takes care of most of my advertising needs and, I'm told, it gives visitors a very good sense of who I am and what they can expect if I agree to meet with them.

 

Cat is 100% correct in saying that we're most at risk with friends, family members and others who know us. LE doesn't have time time to work through every escort ad, everywhere. Besides, advertising is completely legal. I accept, though, that if I were ever to be charged, my website might be used against me. I do believe, however, that it won't be the reason that charges would be laid.

 

Now, I'm in a large city where there hundreds of sex workers are busily plying the trade. In a smaller place, I might decide to do something else.

 

There is no way that I'm aware of to be certain that everything I do connected with this business is absolutely safe. Someone dangerous could slip through my screening requirements. Condoms do not prevent transmission of all STIs. Something unexpected could happen whenever I meet anyone: he could have a heart attack; there could be a fire.

 

I just try to balance out the probabilities, accept that I'm as human as anyone else, and just as likely to make a mistake or a wrong judgment call, and do what I can to mitigate against harm and damage. If I worked in another industry, I'd need to take different precautions. Heck, if I cross a busy street, I need to be careful!

[fortunateone 156618]

The idea that the level of nudity on a website is an indication of the level of service is absolutely ridiculous. In fact, that assumption makes clearer to me the posts of late where providers have "vented" about how they are perceived.

 

I feel that being a respected client means understanding the world of the provider. The risks. The implications. The issues at play. If you actually think that a woman showing her wide-open pussy on display for you is some indication o what the services will be like, I assume that they would rather not see you.

 

Sigh. To all the wonderful and patient women on CERB, I apologize for this Neanderthal.

 

 

I was wondering if the poster feels an absence of this style of photo means that anyone who isn't interested in graphic and trashy photos may not still be adventurous. I think imo, there is a chance that the advertiser with this kind of cheap shot photo is more likely to be a less than memorable experience.

 

On the topic of website or not, I think to stick with the orginal post, it isn't really so much a case of is it a good advertising tool or not. That wasn't really her point.

 

I also found Amelia's statement that prostitution is illegal is very disturbing, if that was her intent. After all the media attention in the past year, why do we still see this belief? Especially with anyone working or seeking services?? Its quite disturbing the lack of curiousity about this business one is working in, to not know these basic things.

 

All sorts of advertising, including online websites I imagine, are legal. And have been legally ruled to be legal. All the advertiser must do is comply with the guidlelines of the advertising venue. One site may say you cannot post rates and descriptions for sexual services. Another one may be ok with it. Websites can include this info as well as additional pictures.

 

I cannot see any way that this could be legally used against any sp. Unless strict adherance to any reference to incall on the site, and the charge specifically being about a bawdy house. But I don't see anyone specifically referring to that, unless I missed it. I might see the possiblity that LE might try to intimidate an sp into stop working altogether by making them think they are "onto" them. But the reality is that a LOT of manpower, investigation, and $$ have to go into even coming to the point of such charges. It means that the sp will have been under investigation for a long time, most likely several months.

 

The majority if not all of the bawdy house charges laid out that I have seen concern multiple sps working from one location. Also, none of these had websites that I know of. All of them advertised on a variety of places. Some of them were in massage parlours that were operating without the appropriate license. My main point is that considering the manpower, time and money needed to investigate and then charge anyone with anything, they typically investigate bigger operations than a single sp working out of her apartment.

 

Now, if you've chosen to share your space with 2 or more others, thus increasing the noise and traffic, and that location is also a house, then you will be a target. The presence or absence of a website will have nothing to do with any charges laid out. They really don't need a website to pile up any proof of anything. Any advertisement will do that, if they plan to use it as evidence, which I doubt. If they use it to find people to investigate, I hardly think they need to look at a website for more proof.

 

 

Also, its just a website. If you are a working sp, you obviously advertise. Not having a website doesn't mean there isn't enough out there that is providing the exact same information is there?

[Andee 220524]

I also found Amelia's statement that prostitution is illegal is very disturbing, if that was her intent. After all the media attention in the past year, why do we still see this belief? Especially with anyone working or seeking services?? Its quite disturbing the lack of curiousity about this business one is working in, to not know these basic things./quote]

 

I am surprised at how many SPs I have met who do not understand the current prostitution laws.

 

Additional Comments:

Now, if you've chosen to share your space with 2 or more others, thus increasing the noise and traffic, and that location is also a house, then you will be a target. The presence or absence of a website will have nothing to do with any charges laid out. They really don't need a website to pile up any proof of anything. Any advertisement will do that, if they plan to use it as evidence, which I doubt. If they use it to find people to investigate, I hardly think they need to look at a website for more proof.

 

 

Also, its just a website. If you are a working sp, you obviously advertise. Not having a website doesn't mean there isn't enough out there that is providing the exact same information is there?

 

Also, if you have an account on cerb for example and show pictures and list details, then that is also public, so being worried about a website being used as "evidence" doesn't make sense.

 

Just as an aside, I've seen more problems with SP's using their work phone for personal use as well. By doing this, they increase the risk of being discovered by thus outing themselves eventually to people in their life who make cause them grief. As Cat and others have pointed out, this is where most trouble originates from.

 

If your number is published anywhere on the net, it's amazing what can come up when you google it. I"d be more worried about that when checking into a hotel and list that number when registering, or have the phone on your person when you try and cross the border.

 

But not to get off track, I just have one of the those free websites which is more a convenience for clients to peruse as a backgrounder. I do not book without communicating with them first and making sure they are clear about what type of encounter they should expect and I get a feel as to whether I want to see them. Also they must call me and have a callback number in order to confirm the appointment.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Without going into detail, the reason Amelia R said that is because she recently found herself in a situation where the police had to be informed of her activities. It came right from the horses mouth so to speak. It was told to her by the police,( and who ever else) That simply money for sex is illegal!! So were they lying? I do not have all the details, as it is her experience. I just do not like the way some have come down on her for this statement, as she is repeating what the LE has informed her of.

Also, not sure what you mean Fourntainatone, about my original posting, that it was not intent?? I am asking if this wed-site thing is a necessary enough for me to bother having one. I had one, and did not find that much use for it after all. I like to personally address each inquiry. And yes, CERB is just another way to gather info, but I am just saying why would I want to give them MORE to use against me if ever were in trouble. I am not trying to say , if you have web-site it will cause to be busted, like Angela said, sometimes things just happen, and I want to be sure that I attach my name as little as possiable to my business.

I started this, cause I just was wondering if others found it to be essential for them, or is it used to highted your image....