Meg O'Ryan 266425 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating! 38 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo Catra 178380 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 It's the quickest way to ensure your request will be denied. Sometimes, when I get angry with a negotiator, they respond with 'it was just a question'. NO. It was not just a question. You asked me to bargain with my body. Not acceptable. Occasionally I've responded to these requests with "Sure! But first, give me your bosses number, so I can call her and let her know that wages are up for negotiation and you'll go to work Monday for 60% of your salary". Usually gets the point across :P 24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ***nno**n*** Report post Posted July 12, 2013 I would add, the time to find out is not in the middle of your session with your chosen lady. I can guarantee any SP has done quite a bit to prepare for you, do the same for her and come prepared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle Diablo 1345 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 Simple ... just don't do it if you expect a favourable response! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabriella Laurence 301882 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating! Thanks, Meg! Same goes for "can you price match another lady's rate?" Sure, only if she charges more then I do! lol 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266425 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 Thanks, Meg! Same goes for "can you price match another lady's rate?" Sure, only if she charges more then I do! lol Hahahahahahahahah good one pretty lady! I once heard someone mention that we aren't Walmart....there ain't no smiley faces above our heads! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294333 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 I've had people text me those kinds of negotiating questions and I say to them "Would you like to go to work for free today or have your boss tell you that you will only be paid X amount?" No I didn't think so! Don't negotiate. It's tacky and will not get you anywhere! Think about the outcome of all this...you go to see the SP and she is completely resenting you. You think you're going to get good service? I highly doubt it. This is why the better and more reputable SPs will NOT take whatever they can get. We actually care and take pride in our services and our rates are on par with that. We enjoy what we do for a living but at the same time we also have bills to pay, mortgages and other things to take care of . Don't mistake the fact that just because a person enjoys what they do has to accept a lesser rate. In fact, they should be getting paid their asking rate because the experience will be that much better. Taking an intimate encounter with a woman and turning it into all dollars and cents and what can you get for this or that completely cheapens the entire experience. If someone is looking for that, they can hit the streets and look there. You definitely get what you pay for! 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest realnicehat Report post Posted July 12, 2013 is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating! Point taken, but if I mention this thread will you give me $20.00 off? ;) I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. Please don't paddle me.......until you've tied me up. I can't imagine how frustrating and insulting this is. And I can't believe that this subject keeps needing to be repeated. It saddens me to think that guys are dealing with you ladies no differently than they are a used car salesperson. Perhaps you should respond in kind: agree to the price and once they arrive and are naked you can mention the delivery fees, taxes and undercoating charges? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179646 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 Thanks Meg, this is an issue we seem to deal with on a regular basis, and it is so frustrating. For those that wonder why the lady will not respond to further inquiries after asking "I only have $100", or what will $50 get me" or my favorite "wow, your prices are way out there, I will give you $30 less then you want", you are on her permanent do not book list. Don't ever lowball her rates, if you can't afford her fees, move on, save up or go down town and find a streetwalker that will give a bj for $20. For those that say "hey its only a question", you are insulting her and she does not appreciate it. Now, on the flip side of the coin, I really appreciate the guys who not only pay her rate, but give a generous tip on top of it. You are the true gems and we really appreciate this. Our time together is special and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Again, thanks Meg. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monctonian007 1357 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 I know the economy isn't the best but this is pretty sad. If you can't afford the rate of a real woman you should stick to drunk chicks at the club or something. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley Ann 75244 Report post Posted July 12, 2013 Luckily for me, 80% of these disrespectful requests come to me via text-so BAM-80% of them are handled just as they should be-with NO response :boobies:, since not only was your request insulting, but clearly the person also has a total disregard for how I choose to handle my business. As for the other 20% those are never answered either ;) Also, I always keep note of the requester so I can make it a point to NEVER EVER see that person. Some may not think of it as a big deal-but it is-it says sooooo much about the person who does this. Remember-we are mostly online, and when you represent yourself in such a way, that is all us ladies have to go by. I mean the way I see it -my offer is for nice men to spend nice times with a fabulous woman such as myself, and you want to offer me a lower rate... That makes me go from hot to NOT. I would also like to say that I think that due to the high amount of $80-$100 sessions that are being sold as terrific on another site-may be a slight indication as to why the amount of discount-requests are growing. There are many with rates out there to suit your budget-so choose em ;) But when one is approaching a lady who chooses not to offer the rate you are looking to spend is a big waste of time for EVERYONE. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig101 3212 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 I'm going to be really stupid here and give my two cents. Most industries are negotiable so its easy to assume that this industry in particular in not immune to capitalism and its rules. When dealing with large amounts of money and transactions we are trained to bargain and get better deals. You're going house shopping and find the perfect house. Its the house of your dreams. They are asking for x amount for the house. Most people will never offer the asked amount. They will attempt to get the house at a lower price. Is this disrespecting the house or the people selling? No not at all. This is business. A lot of us here are friends and enjoy a relationship that transcends the business but we can't forget that this is a business. I don't mean any disrespect here but when dealing with large sums of money I think its always appropriate to ask a question on finances. Some gentlemen negotiate not because they think less of the SP but rather because they like her and are trying to make every effort to spend time with her. Out of all the adds he saw something in your smile or eyes or found something witty in your add that drew him to you above everyone else. Maybe offering less has nothing to do with the SP but rather a reflection of his own finances so the SP shouldn't feel insecure or be sensitive to this. I do believe though if the lady says rates are non-negotiable then that ends the conversation. The Sp should be treated with respect at all times. Rates are not a reflection of an SPs worth. If it was there would be no business because you are all priceless! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179646 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 I'm going to be really stupid here and give my two cents. Most industries are negotiable so its easy to assume that this industry in particular in not immune to capitalism and its rules. When dealing with large amounts of money and transactions we are trained to bargain and get better deals. You're going house shopping and find the perfect house. Its the house of your dreams. They are asking for x amount for the house. Most people will never offer the asked amount. They will attempt to get the house at a lower price. Is this disrespecting the house or the people selling? No not at all. This is business. A lot of us here are friends and enjoy a relationship that transcends the business but we can't forget that this is a business. I don't mean any disrespect here but when dealing with large sums of money I think its always appropriate to ask a question on finances. Some gentlemen negotiate not because they think less of the SP but rather because they like her and are trying to make every effort to spend time with her. Out of all the adds he saw something in your smile or eyes or found something witty in your add that drew him to you above everyone else. Maybe offering less has nothing to do with the SP but rather a reflection of his own finances so the SP shouldn't feel insecure or be sensitive to this. I do believe though if the lady says rates are non-negotiable then that ends the conversation. The Sp should be treated with respect at all times. Rates are not a reflection of an SPs worth. If it was there would be no business because you are all priceless! However, purchasing a house is quite a bit different then services of a provider. I would be very careful about comparing purchasing a house to purchasing time with a provider. Purchasing a house is an inanimate object - a service provider is providing a service. Who goes into McDonalds, and says, hey, a burger at Burger King is cheaper, so I want a Big Mac and want to pay what Burger King charges. Those that negotiate, also want EVERYTHING included for the lower rate. Those that say they only want a BJ also want once they get there to kiss, finger and greek for the lower rate. This is why we get so upset with those that try to negotiate. Even after being told not to negotiate, these guys will try to make to make the provider feel bad about her rates and say "that's too high, please can I get a deal?" In this business, and probably the only business that I am aware of, negotiating is never ok. Just don't do it. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 299567 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 I'm going to be really stupid here and give my two cents. Most industries are negotiable so its easy to assume that this industry in particular in not immune to capitalism and its rules. When dealing with large amounts of money and transactions we are trained to bargain and get better deals. You're going house shopping and find the perfect house. Its the house of your dreams. They are asking for x amount for the house. Most people will never offer the asked amount. They will attempt to get the house at a lower price. Is this disrespecting the house or the people selling? No not at all. This is business. A lot of us here are friends and enjoy a relationship that transcends the business but we can't forget that this is a business. I don't mean any disrespect here but when dealing with large sums of money I think its always appropriate to ask a question on finances. Some gentlemen negotiate not because they think less of the SP but rather because they like her and are trying to make every effort to spend time with her. Out of all the adds he saw something in your smile or eyes or found something witty in your add that drew him to you above everyone else. Maybe offering less has nothing to do with the SP but rather a reflection of his own finances so the SP shouldn't feel insecure or be sensitive to this. I do believe though if the lady says rates are non-negotiable then that ends the conversation. The Sp should be treated with respect at all times. Rates are not a reflection of an SPs worth. If it was there would be no business because you are all priceless! This is a business/lifestyle UNLIKE ANY OTHER Negotiating not cool, not cool at all Only the SP knows her value no one else. If she finds few clients because of her rate she can re-evaluate. Her rate is also how much her time is worth I've met a couple very special ladies, ones I call friends. I wouldn't ever consider negotiating. A friend wouldn't try to shortchange a friend and a client, well good client wouldnt try to shortchange a SP To me negotiating is trying to shortchange Finally in my experience 95% of my encounters have a value exceeding the donation required. These ladies, these Goddesses have allowed me to be with them intimately, not just provided a escape but treated me special like a boyfriend, well friend, not as a john. Negotiate with them, NO treat them with respect YES...and that means treat them like ladies deserving of respect because they are ladies and deserve respect A rambing RG 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle Diablo 1345 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 ... and also, if business is business and "this" being just another business like purchasing a car or a house it should then make sense if negotiating our wares, we should ask a MUCH higher price so that when negotiated down we receive the original price desired at the end of the negotiations ... ? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toklat77 4616 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 Frankly, I wish I was rich enough so that I could negotiate with the lovely ladies on CERB! Except I would be negotiating upwards and squirrel them away for days at a time as I love to spoil women! I know it's a sickness, but I can't help it dammit! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mis****an Report post Posted July 13, 2013 That is true, if you can't afford a woman's applied rate then look for someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig101 3212 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 ... and also, if business is business and "this" being just another business like purchasing a car or a house it should then make sense if negotiating our wares, we should ask a MUCH higher price so that when negotiated down we receive the original price desired at the end of the negotiations ... ? Absolutely! Why not? It works both ways. I expect an SP to charge as much as she can get. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle Diablo 1345 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 Unfortunately that just is not how an average male "negotiates" with a female ... the negotiation is usually wanting EVERYTHING for NOTHING. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig101 3212 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 Unfortunately that just is not how an average male "negotiates" with a female ... the negotiation is usually wanting EVERYTHING for NOTHING. Well then I would agree thats not cool. Respect should be given at all times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262455 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 When dealing with large amounts of money and transactions we are trained to bargain and get better deals. You're going house shopping and find the perfect house. Its the house of your dreams. They are asking for x amount for the house. Most people will never offer the asked amount. They will attempt to get the house at a lower price. Is this disrespecting the house or the people selling? No not at all. This is business. ... until the day arrives that someone is negotiating percentage points for interest on a loan to lay along side me in my bed I will not negotiate my consideration. As long as my service costs less than a day at a golf tournament, it isn't up for discussion. I am a negotiator, anyone who knows me will attest that I can be embarrassing to go shopping with. I will negotiate any PRODUCT price and have done so in stores from Walmart to Holt Renfrew but I don't negotiate with my lawyer, my mechanic, my general contractor, my accountant, my hairdresser, my nail shop or my RMT. These are MY service providers and I value the work they do because it is quality and I trust them to give me their best every time I walk thru the door. All I ask is that I'm treated with the same respect when I give my best as I do each and every time a guest walks thru my door... cat 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig101 3212 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 Unfortunately that just is not how an average male "negotiates" with a female ... the negotiation is usually wanting EVERYTHING for NOTHING. ... until the day arrives that someone is negotiating percentage points for interest on a loan to lay along side me in my bed I will not negotiate my consideration. As long as my service costs less than a day at a golf tournament, it isn't up for discussion. I am a negotiator, anyone who knows me will attest that I can be embarrassing to go shopping with. I will negotiate any PRODUCT price and have done so in stores from Walmart to Holt Renfrew but I don't negotiate with my lawyer, my mechanic, my general contractor, my accountant, my hairdresser, my nail shop or my RMT. These are MY service providers and I value the work they do because it is quality and I trust them to give me their best every time I walk thru the door. All I ask is that I'm treated with the same respect when I give my best as I do each and every time a guest walks thru my door... cat Most people I know have negotiated with at least one of the professions that you mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fresh start 17467 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 ... until the day arrives that someone is negotiating percentage points for interest on a loan to lay along side me in my bed I will not negotiate my consideration. As long as my service costs less than a day at a golf tournament, it isn't up for discussion. I am a negotiator, anyone who knows me will attest that I can be embarrassing to go shopping with. I will negotiate any PRODUCT price and have done so in stores from Walmart to Holt Renfrew but I don't negotiate with my lawyer, my mechanic, my general contractor, my accountant, my hairdresser, my nail shop or my RMT. These are MY service providers and I value the work they do because it is quality and I trust them to give me their best every time I walk thru the door. All I ask is that I'm treated with the same respect when I give my best as I do each and every time a guest walks thru my door... cat I think the same way, you don't negotiate with service providers (I'm not talking just companion I'm talking everything in general) its rude and its degrading for the provider. I work as a general contractor from time to time, doing small jobs and usually the first thing I saw is how much I charge, if the don't want to pay that hire someone else. You're paying for my skills and expertise, sure there probable people who charge less but there people you aren't as skilled either. If you knew you weren't going to get your full amount you asked for do you really think you would put an effort into it. I know I'm not going to give the same quality and amount of time for a lower fee. If you can't afford it save up, or request less time. If its on the menu. I usually charge a min of 4 hours depending on the job and location. So if a lady only books a min 1h don't try and book 1/2h there is a reason they don't offer it. It's usually a waste of time and not enough profit. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262455 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 Most people I know have negotiated with at least one of the professions that you mentioned. I know people that will negotiate all services. What I find amusing is they feel that they got a "deal" to begin with and then complain when they didn't get all that they wanted or needed. Negotiating multi-hour rates like a court case or a custom built house is one thing, taking 5-10% off $100 000 still leaves a viable cash flow and small excess can be trimmed where needed to accommodate the discount. Asking me to take a 40% pay cut on my fee that has not increased in 9 years for a luxury service is simply arrogant and insulting. Pussy is not a poor mans hobby and if a man needs a discount because he genuinely doesn't have it in his pocket then he should realize that he genuinely CAN'T AFFORD to be hobbying and needs to get his financial house in order... cat 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266425 Report post Posted July 13, 2013 I like where you are going Cat. What we offer is a luxury and not a necessity. Luxuries are purchased with disposable income or with monies expressly saved for the luxuries we desire. If you do not have the available funds for such a luxury then you must either save up or keep on dreaming! Bargaining for an item is one thing but bargaining for someone's time is insulting! Do your research and find someone who offers what you can afford or settle for the palm sisters. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites