Barefax adding brothel in 2014

[conquistador 18487]

Okay guys.. the sultry sounds of - White Snake.. Are the standard we are no longer living up to...lol

 

Kim (Dancer & Sex worker circa 2014..) :icon_wink:

 

i don't know about you but i would take White Snake over a lot of what's playing on the radio these days!..ala biebier lol

 

but that's just me :)

 

good and bad from every era, and we might say the same thing in the next decade about nowadays. We all have our own tastes and it's good to have selection and different types of girls, a girl for everyone so to speak.

[roamingguy 300291]

I understand what you are all saying. I'm just not into all the piercings and tattoos. I do wonder who makes the most money on a Friday night when the place closes.

 

I'm relatively new to this lifestyle although I did go to a few strip clubs in my younger days. But something I have observed in this lifestyle is ladies with tattoos and piercings, mind you I have observed this on ladies who are "civilian" for lack of a better word as well

My point, and I have met some lady's with tattoos and piercings, is that those tattoos and piercings compliment a lady's beauty. It doesn't detract. Just because you aren't into tattoos and piercings is just a matter of personal taste. It shouldn't be viewed as a fact that there has been a decline since the 80's. Frankly I haven't seen a decline in beauty at all. And there are some of us gentlemen who see tattoos and piercings as complimenting a lady's beauty.

An Easter rambling

 

RG

[Lowdark 5613]

i don't know about you but i would take White Snake over a lot of what's playing on the radio these days!..ala biebier lol

 

but that's just me :)

 

good and bad from every era, and we might say the same thing in the next decade about nowadays. We all have our own tastes and it's good to have selection and different types of girls, a girl for everyone so to speak.

 

No doubt, but to dismiss and subsequently insult an entire group based on your affection for the good of one era is foolish. The poster who claimed that contemporary dancers looked as poor as sex workers compared to dancers from his cherished early 90's insulted both current dancers and SPs. You know, the whole reason he's probably on this board.

[O'Cahla 4352]

Hmmm, kinda wondering how this thread got from opening a brothel and prostitution laws to personal body preferences.LOL

[Jack2000 3446]

What's wrong with cracked out streetwalkers ?

 

You take Amy Winehouse for instance..kinda , well, cracked out ? Yes.

 

Did she give me a boner ? HELL YES !!

 

 

And what's wrong with that? I dunno about you but when I was still hobbying I met quite a few beautiful sex workers. And I mean knock-me-on-my-ass kind of gorgeous. And unless things have drastically changed in the past few months I don't see any reason to believe that has changed. Way to feed the stereotype that you can't have beautiful sex workers. They don't all look like cracked out streetwalkers ya know....

[bluethunder01 1111]

For the record, I am not a fan of breast implants. Of course, many of the legends of the past had them and I tolerated it.

[roamingguy 300291]

For the record, I am not a fan of breast implants. Of course, many of the legends of the past had them and I tolerated it.

 

That's pretty decent of you tolerating ladies who have breast implants.

I wonder what the ladies have to tolerate

 

RG

[bluethunder01 1111]

I wonder what the ladies have to tolerate

 

What is your problem. man? You think the current system in the clubs in 2014 is perfect? I don't.

 

Just like every other message board I visit, somebody is trying to get under my skin in order to relieve their boredom.

 

I should just accept what we have and live with it? Why?

[cinelli 22184]

Amy Winehouse, boner?

 

Speechless I am.

[roamingguy 300291]

What is your problem. man? You think the current system in the clubs in 2014 is perfect? I don't.

 

Just like every other message board I visit, somebody is trying to get under my skin in order to relieve their boredom.

 

I should just accept what we have and live with it? Why?

 

Just like every other message board somebody getting under your skin

Think about what you just said...if it's with every message board too...DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE YOU!!!???...

 

RG

[bluethunder01 1111]

DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE YOU!!!???...

 

As Brian Wilson and Tony Asher wrote back in 1966:

 

"I guess I just wasn't meant for these times."

 

I'm not on the Internet to make friends or kiss butt. I'm on the Internet to discuss topics.

[Guest *l**e]

This is so far from the op, but I have to comment...if u post inflammatory comments then complain when people "try to get under your skin", that kinda means you are the problem...especially if it happens on every board...lol...

You remind me of this punker I saw with a three foot tall neon mohawk that yelled at people if they looked at him...lmao

[bluethunder01 1111]

This is so far from the op, but I have to comment...if u post inflammatory comments then complain when people "try to get under your skin", that kinda means you are the problem...especially if it happens on every board...lol...

You remind me of this punker I saw with a three foot tall neon mohawk that yelled at people if they looked at him...lmao

 

I don't ignore people trying to get under my skin. I answer my critics.

 

If you like our entertainment in 2014 and think it's great, more power to you. I don't.

 

Comments are removed but now people hate my guts here.

[Kimberly-Shea 28280]

I don't ignore people trying to get under my skin. I answer my critics.

 

If you like our entertainment in 2014 and think it's great, more power to you. I don't.

 

Comments are removed but now people hate my guts here.

 

I don't think anyone hates your guts. I don't.

 

I will say, I did find your posts off topic and needlessly insulting. My response was in irritation/jest and an attempt to show you that opinions on what is considered "quality" varies widely.

 

Sweeping generalizations tend to annoy people, simple as that. I think referring to women as "8's or 10's", won't ever get you the response you're hoping for. Most importantly, alluding to "sex workers" uglying up the joint, on an escort rec board doesn't seem like the best idea, no?

 

Don't take it personally, and I'll try and do the same. ;)

 

Happy Easter,

Kim

[Guest *l**e]

some people just crave drama, and thrive on antagonism. You're exactly correct Kimberly-Shea...coming on an escort board and using the term "sex worker" as a derogatory term is never gonna make you any friends. Clearly this person is happy with any attention; even negative.

[bluethunder01 1111]

some people just crave drama, and thrive on antagonism. You're exactly correct Kimberly-Shea...coming on an escort board and using the term "sex worker" as a derogatory term is never gonna make you any friends. Clearly this person is happy with any attention; even negative.

 

..and what about rexscott? That's the wording he used. Did you want me to use another term?

[Guest *l**e]

rexscott was referring to the point of his thread; that if the Fax opened a brothel, there would be dancers on the club side and he said "sex workers" on the brothel side. He probably should have said "sp's" on the brothel side as dancers are part of the definition of sex worker.

 

You, on the other hand used the term "sex worker" to indicate a less attractive woman. If you can't see how that might be insulting to a community full of sex workers, I'm not sure what to say.

[bluethunder01 1111]

rexscott was referring to the point of his thread; that if the Fax opened a brothel, there would be dancers on the club side and he said "sex workers" on the brothel side. He probably should have said "sp's" on the brothel side as dancers are part of the definition of sex worker.

 

You, on the other hand used the term "sex worker" to indicate a less attractive woman. If you can't see how that might be insulting to a community full of sex workers, I'm not sure what to say.

 

I'm really confused here, Il Re. People here have been saying the Gentlemen's Clubs have been struggling these days and dancers can't make any money and yet we can't truthfully say why they are in this shape here? Shaking my head.

[whiteman 14028]

What is your problem. man? You think the current system in the clubs in 2014 is perfect? I don't.

 

Just like every other message board I visit, somebody is trying to get under my skin in order to relieve their boredom.

 

I should just accept what we have and live with it? Why?

I think you started the problem yourself, with your initial overblown absolutist statements. You didn't state why you thought one era's girls were hotter, and then claimed the current era girls looked like they were "sex workers" as if that was a bad thing. Quite obviously they are sex workers, that's by definition, and even the girls from the era you long for were also sex workers. So you showed yourself in extremely bad form: arrogance and snobbery.

 

Only later did we find out that the reason you thought they were unattractive was because of tattoos and piercings. And even later we find out that you thought the girls from the 90's also had problems, such as rock hard fake boobs. If you start off with absolutist statements, expect absolutist statements back as responses.

 

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I'm really confused here, Il Re. People here have been saying the Gentlemen's Clubs have been struggling these days and dancers can't make any money and yet we can't truthfully say why they are in this shape here? Shaking my head.

The real reason the clubs are in bad shape is because of the Internet and porn. Why spend money on a girl you can't touch, when you can view her for free online? I think non-interactive stripclubs may well be on the downfall, and they are going to have to adapt to a new reality. It's actually happening right now, the interactivity rules are being relaxed everywhere unofficially.

 

The stripclub replaced the topless bars of the 60's, and it wasn't as if the topless bars were closed, they just became the stripclubs, so it was an adaptation for a newer era. Now an even newer adaptation needs to be made.

[Jack2000 3446]

I've been hanging in strip clubs for decades and I just love the way things are today, sure, I kinda miss the tan lines and "gatino girl" look of the eighties dancers, but today we have exotic girls from all around the world to admire. And a girl does not have to look like a '10' for me to be attracted to her, she may have charm, wit, style,intelligence and so on.....

 

Who am I to complain anyways ? I have been treated like a KING in these places and done nothiing to deserve it. I'm so grateful to all the dancers and staff who've made my life so much happier all this time.

[Guest *l**e]

I'm not sure why you think strip clubs are in trouble or that dancers can't make any money. The fax and Pigale are making money hand over fist and there are now 2-3 times more girls per shift than the old days and they are each making as much money now as the girls ever did. Some of the other clubs may be struggling a bit because of location, etc or maybe the market share is not big enough to support so many clubs, but those same clubs were always a bit behind Pigales and the Fax (and probably Valentino's and Fanny's) on the 90's.

 

What the previous poster is correct though. If you would state your opinions without being so insulting, maybe people wouldn't react as they do.

[Ice4fun 78396]

I'm 54 so I have visited strip clubs in various city's around Canada for about 35 years.... have the changed... of course they have... like all businesses they gave adjusted their service offering to reflect the environment in which they operate. I delighted to see that I no longer go into clubs and see ladies required to wear pasties as full nudity was not allowed or that if you wanted a private dance you could not drink in the same room.... things change and people will see positives and negatives to the changes.... for the ladies who preferred no contact the move to it being the norm was seen as a negative while others saw it as a great way to bump up their revenue. one think I have missed at the clubs as they gave moved to more lapdance/contact venues us the amazing dance shows some of there ladies were able to do.

 

As for the beauty of the ladies at the clubs then vs now.....all I can say is I have never had a problem finding a beautiful lady at the clubs. 30 years ago there was no tattoos and no body jewelry... hair styles were different.... people dressed differently...hey but before we judge.... go back and look at some pictures of yourself from the past what we think is sexy changes with time and in my opinion that is not a bad thing..... would I get a tattoo or piercing. lol... most likely not... have I met some amazing sexy beautiful women who have YES. In my opinion anything that makes a lady feel sexy about herself is ok with me.

 

Bottom line... i can't go back to the past so the things I miss about then will remain as fond memories... there are however so many new fond memories to make.

 

Just my opinion.

[scribbles 6031]

I have been to strip clubs here in Ottawa and in Portland, Oregon, both cities where I have lived. I was previously married, and while living in Portland my now ex-wife took up dancing. Portland was interesting in that they had a tremendous number of strip clubs for a relatively small city, a thriving alternative community, yet very conservative rules around obscenity. As a result, any form of contact was strictly forbidden and carefully monitored.

Dancers there made most of their money off their stage sets. Many of the dancers pulled in more than $300 a night, sometimes without a single private dance. They ranged from tall and curvy to short and small, some with tons of body art, others with none. There was a flavour, so to speak, for every appetite.

 

Ottawa isn't much different, except that we are a lot more lax with our rules. I *do* think this has generally detracted from the entertainment aspect of the experience, and perhaps created an environment where competition is driven by "extras inflation"; how far you are willing to go determines how busy you'll be.

 

I don't think clubs are any worse today than they were in the past. I don't find the dancers any less attractive, and would even venture that I find them generally better looking. My tastes tend towards the spinner variety, though, so maybe there just tend to be more that fit that pattern now than in the past. I *do* miss the entertainment of a good stage show, but, really, how many of us go to a club to be at a distance from the lady we are admiring?

 

I doubt the idea of a brothel at the Fax will ever happen. As others have mentioned, there are too many licensing and regulatory hurdles to vault before that could ever happen. It's just too high profile.

 

But, saying the ladies look too much like sex workers? Really? That's not being honest or calling it like you see it, that's being carelessly crude. You can't really expect people to respond well to that.

[ngtime 560]

There will always be a market for the SC, but it is shrinking. Who could deny that? A few more will close in the next year or two.

The lines are blurred as to what kind of activity is available. FS is available in the SC, and it will only get fuller so to speak. However clients are weighing their options and hey if FS can be a more private, cleaner option ( showers) why not explore the MP or SP option?

[bluethunder01 1111]

Il Re works in this industry and he has to tow the line. He doesn't want to lose any customers who might be reading his comments. He has to defend his fellow workers.

 

I'm a customer. Customers want to spend their money on top-drawer attractions. I'm certain a good number of men want to see women who look like the models (or close to it) they see in the posters and billboards of stores at Bayshore. For a good long time, we got that here.

 

We aren't getting that quality any longer. Obviously, Il Re was not at Barb's on late Friday night on March 7, 2014. I saw a nearly empty CR when I went inside.

 

The gentlemen's clubs may be raking in the dough but not the dancers. They are paying who knows what in DJ fees and could leave the building down instead of up. When 14 women (I counted) come up to you trying to solicit dances in a 2 hour period, you know there's a problem. What could it be?

 

What ever happened to the old "If you want a lady, all you have to do is ask" policy? That's how I still do it. That should be the rule.

 

Maybe Barb's or Pigale in the day is better for my tastes? I'll find out Thursday afternoon.