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Isn't asking a lady prior to scheduling an encounter if she is having her period about the same as asking all ladies prior to scheduling an encounter are you drug and disease free.

BTW I'm not for one minute suggesting either question should be asked

A quick off the cuff rambling, just came to me

 

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Should she disclose her mental health history? That's just a different type of "risk" after all.

 

I want to address this comment to ensure that I have explained myself properly. I am not discussing the merits of health or safety in my posted opinion as that is for each individual to ascertain for themselves.

 

My opinion is solely on the informed consent basis of engaging in sexual services. That is all. I do not negatively judge ladies who use sponges. I do not judge on anything. I am very open and understanding to how and why ladies feel the way they do.

 

So what a lady should or should not disclose based on risk is not my concern. At least not for this topic of conversation. My opinion is strictly on informed consent of the client.

 

Also, as with all opinions, they are merely an opinion. Not fact, law or right/wrong. It is just my personal on this matter.

 

I did offer up the suggestions of financial planning as an aid and tool that can be helpful to my fellow working ladies. I do not want anyone feeling the feast or famine battle. Before I start working in mainstream way back when, many many years ago, I was homeless, sleeping in a stairwell and starving from not eating for days. I do not want any person to ever have to experience that. While I did not start escorting then, I did find work and that was my start to my own business. I had to learn how to manage money, work hard, plan ahead to ensure I never have to be in that position again. However, it was very traumatic for me. To the point that even though I can fully retire from my mainstream work, actually from all forms of work right now, I don't. I don't because I still fear being destitute unrealistically. No amount of zeros left of the decimal in my bank account are going to change the embedded fear that I now carry. I know the battle and I want to help others if I can.

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I want to address this comment to ensure that I have explained myself properly. I am not discussing the merits of health or safety in my posted opinion as that is for each individual to ascertain for themselves.

 

My opinion is solely on the informed consent basis of engaging in sexual services. That is all. I do not negatively judge ladies who use sponges. I do not judge on anything. I am very open and understanding to how and why ladies feel the way they do.

 

So what a lady should or should not disclose based on risk is not my concern. At least not for this topic of conversation. My opinion is strictly on informed consent of the client.

 

Also, as with all opinions, they are merely an opinion. Not fact, law or right/wrong. It is just my personal on this matter.

 

be helpful to my fellow working ladies. I do not want anyone feeling tI did offer up the suggestions of financial planning as an aid and tool that canhe feast or famine battle. Before I start working in mainstream way back when, many many years ago, I was homeless, sleeping in a stairwell and starving from not eating for days. I do not want any person to ever have to experience that. While I did not start escorting then, I did find work and that was my start to my own business. I had to learn how to manage money, work hard, plan ahead to ensure I never have to be in that position again. However, it was very traumatic for me. To the point that even though I can fully retire from my mainstream work, actually from all forms of work right now, I don't. I don't because I still fear being destitute unrealistically. No amount of zeros left of the decimal in my bank account are going to change the embedded fear that I now carry. I know the battle and I want to help others if I can.

 

That's admirable of you Jessica and I hope no one was offended with my comment.

After all the back and forth about what this person would/should do and what that person would/should do, in the end it is really about control. You can try and control others actions because "that's not how I would do it" but really, has that ever worked?

In the end the only control you truly have is over yourself.

Be safe, everyone.

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Hi there. I can see where you would get turned off absolutely. Most women in this business will use a sponge that time of the month while working. Sometimes it is quite effective, other times not. It works great for some women and not so great for others. I, myself have tried this method before, and did not find it helpful. So now, I opt to take that week off. As I would recommend to other ladies. Native tradition, this is supposed to be a sacred time, your moon time. So, for the women that are regulated, and know when it's coming, plan to take a break. You deserve it and probably need it. If you are working regularly and budget properly, saving for that rainy day, than a week off won't affect you. It's not much fun working anyways if you are crampy, bloated and irritable. Although this is the one time a month women are most horny. God has a funny sense of humour. My comment to the men reading this, please go easy on the ladies. It's a natural part of life. Maybe your service provider just checked into a prime location and is out $200 or $300 in hotel fees, and surprise she got it early, and has to make the most of it. I do agree with the fact that perhaps she can offer other services than full. I have, myself, done this when in that predicament; offering oral or a nice tantric massage is a great alternative to full service.

Another quick note; this is a fetish for a few men, a turn on, although some men are shy to admit it. I had an old boyfriend that absolutely loved going downtown on me that time of month. I was weird about it at first. But of course, I want to do anything to please my men. And sure enough, I loved it. And we connected really deeply. I am not suggesting this as a marketing strategy, messing around with blood is very risky. But keep an open mind. Different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for reading,

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And that comes back to this thread. We guys know that menstruation happens, just as bad days and sick pets and headaches and all the other things that might make things less than stellar also happen... but, if we're honest, we don't want to have to deal with that - and part of what we're paying for is not having to deal with that stuff. It doesn't make the slightest difference to our enjoyment whether it's that time of the month or not, or whether today's just a bad day or not, or whether you're faking or not... provided we don't find out. But if we find out, that illusion of the perfect girlfriend is shattered. We're quite happy to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, provided we can plausibly ignore the man - and, preferably, the curtain too.

 

I agree with you to a certain extent. That escorts are a fantasy turned reality and we provide a hassle free environment. Here's where the word "however" comes in. I have been honest to clients and they were happy to come on over and were happy that they had a choice, other than canceling the appointment. Maybe not all people would want to go forward with the appointment. But I don't necessarily think having an open dialogue about having a period is a deal breaker. Of course an escort doesn't have to come out and say, hey, I'm on my period, if she provides for example erotic massage, on that time of the month (I'm not saying that escorts have to do this on their period and that all escorts provide this on their period, or that escorts have to/should tell their clients that they are on their period, it's just an example). If then the client wants more than an erotic massage then the "I'm on my period but I can use a sponge" line can come in (I have said this). Some clients are fine with this and are fine with going forward with services.

 

In the past, some clients haven't taken my subtle hints, when I took days off, on my period and I had to straight up tell them that, "I'm on my period". They then said they understood and booked for another day.

 

I still think the man behind the curtain did his job right and no one noticed him, too much, anyway. Beside the point, he has really nice curtains...big smile

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I read this thread very late last night and I wanted to reply with a clear mind...I guess you have a right to be disgusted...everybody reacts differently to that situation...

 

There is something though that bothers me and really ticked me off here is that you took the donation and left 40$!

Thats what bothers me the most...I'm sure there will be lots of different opinions on this issue but if you decide to leave because you are disgusted with the situation, the donation should stay there...yes maybe she should have been upfront about it but, for me, its not a reason to take the donation and barely leave Pocket change...

 

Personally i do work with sponges ( for what I have left of period lol) and there is no way you could ever tell coz they are really deep in there. But yes I started my period many times during sessions...that i could not predict...

 

Just my opinion...

BJ

 

OMG! I absolutely agree that you should have not taken the donation. She was probably more uncomfortable and humiliated than you. And she already provided service. You said her BJ was great. Surely her time and a BJ for you is worth more than $40.

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All I can say is that the ladies I see put up with my shortcomings so I can put up with theirs.

 

Nobody's perfect.

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From all the pages I have read after commenting I notice

It's a torn between been honest vs fantasy land because we get compensate

In an ideal world clients would be forward about having cold sores,genital warts or been not clean before and ladies would tell you when it's the time of the month,etc

By revealing that, we crush the fantasy land of the provider that never have period,never shit,never sick always like sex regardless of hygiene,appearance,behaviors

Bottom line each individual should be responsible of revealing their conditions on each side..

Does it happen all the time? No

As much as some of you feel entitle to know when I will have my period which for me is 2days max and travel all the time but do take night off with Gf etc

I had a past condition were I was pregnant and waiting to get surgery and end up bleeding

I recently had a girl disclose what I said about myself to clients .from private lounge I had flood of clients texting me telling me they felt insecure to see me as I may be at risk due to condom breaking and end up pregnant regardless of plan b and be at hospital..That incident happened two years ago..yet I was questioned

When the situation happened I was at hospital I did everything on my end to make sure I wasn't putting anyone at risk..The client did as well

When I end up bleeding I wasn't suppose to..I took some time off to get an abortion which I wasn't treat properly and in a very demeaning way

Not only I had to deal with lost income while I was in USA I was notify that they may have overlook and I was still pregnant..fast forward will all tests in USA and they weren't able to go forward I rack I huge medical bill(roughly 10k)

I was brought back to canada where they operate me for my condition

 

I also find very offensive on my end that someone would book and app and think I won't notice his cold sore or genital warts

 

As for Greek people said it's normal to deal with it or expect it..

I do Greek and pegging and strongly disagree with this

 

I do natural enema and I'm very anal about it that it's skeequy clean..I do expect same in return and the compensation for my time doesn't justify me dealing a lot of shit off your butt because YOU inquire about ass play

 

This activities involve risks on both end and I agreed to it and fully aware of it

 

Personally I find it offensive to be ask to be the first,that you ask me if I'm on my period or have any diseases,how many times I fuck a day

I am not judgmental who come to see me and don't interrogate them that way.

Yet I have seen quite frustrating situation where someone want all is money back because I decline service as he had a cold sore and try to sneak it in

Not only he book a time that I could give someone else but expect me to perform activity at risk as he has a condition and feel he should take the whole donation back because I disagree

Full disclosure should be on both end..it's only fair

( mean what you and your wife do etc)

 

Anyway like roamyguy I'm a bit rambling but I think you know what is my post is about

VJ

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In an ideal world clients would be forward about having cold sores,genital warts or been not clean before and ladies would tell you when it's the time of the month,etc

 

Bottom line each individual should be responsible of revealing their conditions on each side..

Does it happen all the time? No

 

I also find very offensive on my end that someone would book and app and think I won't notice his cold sore or genital warts

 

Yet I have seen quite frustrating situation where someone want all is money back because I decline service as he had a cold sore and try to sneak it in

Not only he book a time that I could give someone else but expect me to perform activity at risk as he has a condition and feel he should take the whole donation back because I disagree

 

I agree that honesty about this doesn't always happen. It is everyone's responsibility and due diligence to inform others of any situation. I have refused service to clients because of hiding warts or cold sores. I did an outcall and only got compensated for my ride. It was very frustrating but my health was more important than money at that time.

 

As for Greek people said it's normal to deal with it or expect it..

I do Greek and pegging and strongly disagree with this

 

I do natural enema and I'm very anal about it that it's skeequy clean..I do expect same in return and the compensation for my time doesn't justify me dealing a lot of shit off your butt because YOU inquire about ass play

 

This activities involve risks on both end and I agreed to it and fully aware of it

 

The comment in the red is what I agree with and what I was highlighting in my past posts. That there's risks involved with participating in greek and that most people are aware of that.

 

Personally I find it offensive to be the first,that you ask me if I'm on my period or have any diseases,how many times I fuck a day

I am not judgmental who come to see me and don't interrogate them that way.

 

I agree with you that it is offensive for clients to ask if escorts are working on their period or ask if an escort is disease free or ask how many clients an escort has seen. I'd say that if someone is worried about diseases, they should protect themselves accordingly and get regular testing. I am also nonjudgmental and would not interrogate my clients and I would not expect them to do it to me either.

 

I think if an escort chooses to wear a sponge and the client doesn't notice, fine that's great. Just because I don't like to wear sponges without telling my clients, means it's wrong, it just means that it's not a choice I want to make. However, this thread is about when it goes wrong and I think that if it does go wrong, then the escort is responsible for the situation because it was her choice to use a sponge, imo. (this is not about the girl in the original post, this is my general opinion on this). What a escort does or doesn't do to resolve a problem or situation is none of my business, but this is my humble opinion.

 

 

 

I think on this topic, there's going to be clients who will be comfortable with seeing an escort who is using a sponge and there's going to be clients who are not going to be comfortable with this and there's nothing wrong with that. It's a preference thing.

 

I also still think honesty can help prevent any awkward situations because both parties are prepared and *if* something happens; well, the client was warned and accepted the arrangement in advance. I know it's a easier said than done thing and that some escorts have unique circumstances, but it can be done (again what an escort does with her business is her choice and I understand why some escorts don't want to disclose that they are on their period and using a sponge). I have in post 108 my opinion on the fantasy illusion and the open dialogue of periods. Of course it's not for all, but again, it's a preference thing.

 

There's always a chance of loosing a client by honest communication. However, it's easier to loose a client for that day, instead of having to clean up a big mess, aka a bad review, having to give a refund or something along those lines. For me anyway.

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The unfortunate thing is ladies are often forced to keep their period private (mind you I stand by the adage everyone's sexual health is their own business). How many clients would cancel on a lady after booking a date, and thus deprive her of income (this is after all her livelihood) if he learned it was her time of the month

Now not all ladies do this, but often on a lady's website it says, words to the effect "money is for time and companionship only, what happens is between two consenting adults" and some ladies do not even have any menu of any sort.

So to me, just with that, there is no guarantee of anything in an encounter.

Personally, if a lady told me she is having her period (and no, not obliged to do so) I'm open to other activities. An evening lying in bed (btw I have done this, and just because the encounter unfolded that way, not because it was the lady's time of the month) kissing, caressing, conversation and of course, snuggles:-) It was a very enjoyable, pleasurable and a memorable encounter. I guess my point is, if clients could be open to a date unfolding differently than planned, they might just find other activities equally enjoyable. But probably it's the worry a client isn't open to other activities because life happened that prevents ladies from disclosing (again I emphasize she isn't obligated to disclose)

I look forward to my dates, and however they unfold is how they unfold. No preplanned scripts for this guy. But that's just my opinion

A rambling

 

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No preplanned scripts for this guy. But that's

 

But scripts can be so fun. Naughty nurse, school girl, or how about sexy secretary.

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But scripts can be so fun. Naughty nurse, school girl, or how about sexy secretary.

 

Speak for yourself ..I don't remotely enjoy neither than provide script session

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Speak for yourself ..I don't remotely enjoy neither than provide script session

:)

 

I am speaking for myself of course. Some script play can be fun but so is some unscripted gfe too. It's a tongue in cheek comment of course. :biggrin:

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Thanks Gabriella...I did not quote originally, but I was referring to Cat's post:

 

Daty is performed for the client, not the provider

 

Which I believe is where the generalization began. I am relieved to hear that some providers may actually enjoy this activity.

 

 

The two things are not mutually exclusive. i think what cat was getting at was that some services are provided due to market demand, and her points (seemingly missed?) that it is FAR more successful with trust and some history with the client, makes her point bang on (to use the drum analogy).

 

 

An sp can enjoy daty and yet still provide it as a required service due to being a GFE provider due to market demands, and primarily for the consideration of the client not herself. If he is successful at it, that is her personal bonus lol. But an expectation of multiple orgasms possibly a few times a day due to seeing more than a couple of clients, and all multiple daty orgasms, just really isn't going to be realistic.

 

Having said that, the majority of sps want to provide services that they themselves do enjoy, and not provide the ones they do not. So does someone who provides bbbjs or greek truly sincerely enjoy them, all the time with every single client because she just loves it that much? Or after the 5th greek client of the day, still doing it for the pure pleasure and not also because it is a service provided on her menu and ads?

 

 

It is important, very important, to remember that this is not a FWB or GF/BF relationship, it is a service provider/client relationship, and the sessions are meant to be all about you. Some guys like to spend 45 minutes in daty, and figure that means they should get a discount because it is 'all for her'./ But 'all for her' doesn't pay the bills.

 

 

re: rep comment, Peachy 'we' aren't assuming sps see up to 5 clients, but being realistic, especially for those who are on a limited schedule or traveling, it is entirely possible that on at least one day or once in a while, someone somewhere is going to see 5 clients. It is simply an example. Would it be better to say 3, 2 ? it is still more than most people experience in a single day. or even several days in a row with 2 a day.

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someone who provides bbbjs or greek truly sincerely enjoy them, all the time with every single client because she just loves it that much? Or after the 5th greek client of the day, still doing it for the pure pleasure and not also because it is a service provided on her menu and ads?

 

 

It is important, very important, to remember that this is not a FWB or GF/BF relationship, it is a service provider/client relationship, and the sessions are meant to be all about you. Some guys like to spend 45 minutes in daty, and figure that means they should get a discount because it is 'all for her'./ But 'all for her' doesn't pay the bills.

 

 

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have posted on the rep section (I didn't mean it in the way it came out). So I could elaborate and explain what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say was meant to be in good spirit. So was the tongue and cheek comment about scripts. I actually agreed with most of what RM was saying and that's why I thanked him.

 

I didn't want to post on this thread yet again but... Some escorts know the amount of clients they can see to maintain that happy gfe style. That means they can work and genuinely be happy and enjoy the moment with the client. For each escort the number of client(s) they can take and maintain is different. Maybe it's one client a day and maybe it's five. The amount of clients an escort sees is her privileged information. I just think it's an assumption to say that an escort is seeing up to five clients a day, not that there's anything wrong with that. Maybe that was just a random number chosen for this post. I'd say that I've luckily enjoyed my sessions, but, maybe I'm faking it, I'm not going to tell.

 

I know what works for myself. I personally need to take breaks in between clients and space the sessions out. It gives me some time to clear my head and prepare for the next/new session.

 

I definitely don't think any deal should be given, unless it's initiated by the escort.

 

Here's a piece a have written from above:

 

I agree with you that it is offensive for clients to ask if escorts are working on their period or ask if an escort is disease free or ask how many clients an escort has seen. I'd say that if someone is worried about diseases, they should protect themselves accordingly and get regular testing. I am also nonjudgmental and would not interrogate my clients and I would not expect them to do it to me either.

 

I think assumptions can be unrealistic and can be offensive, even if it's not meant to be.

 

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I just wanted to jump in again to mention something, though I can't recall if anyone has already said this in earlier posts..

 

One thing to consider, since most of this SP's commenting on this thread are independent, is that if a woman is working for an agency, and not on her own, she does not always have the same luxury of having open communication with the client beforehand.

While this may not always be the case, a few things to consider would be that, for the most part, agency SP's don't have any type of communication with their clients until their already in the door.

At that point, if they do decide to explain to them that they are on their period, and allow the gentleman to decide whether to continue with the session or not, they run the risk of possibly having him become angry, for possibly paying for parking, wasting his time coming down there, possibly feeling set up, etc. It happens, so I'm not really being far-fetched by saying this, and just the thought of being in that position can intimidate a girl into just not saying anything at all.

 

One other thing to consider with SP's working with an agency is that fact that they are not only supporting themselves with the money they make from their sessions. So if they come in to work, and try and keep and open dialogue with their clients and several of them decide to opt out of continuing with the session, they could potentially have other people losing out on calls, and possibly have others upset with them.

 

The point I'm trying to make I suppose, is that it's not always so simple for many women as just being upfront about being on their period..many working women have many other factors, besides just "making money", to take into consideration.

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Seems to me that some clients demand 100% satisfaction or else they consider they session a total failure and want their money back.

 

These are the same goofs who waste time at the cashier because they want five cents off their potato or whatever.

 

If you cannot allow that occasionally things don't work out then grow up. And if losing $200 or $300 is a financial disaster you shouldn't be seeing escorts.

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One final thought.

 

Well, here's the thing. It's expected that escorts will at one time or another see multiple clients. It's part of escorting and protecting an escorts and clients privacy is prevalent. Using sponges is something that is not expected in the escort industry. Maybe it should be, though.

 

My statements are based on *if* an escort takes a risk to use a sponge without telling her clients and something happens, the escort should be responsible for that situation, imo. No matter how small of a risk it is, in my opinion, it is still a risk. The escort made the choice to use a sponge without telling the client and at this point in time, *if* something happens it may cause a bit of a negative situation (maybe in the clients eyes for whatever reason) and that's where I said it might be a good idea to be honest; but it seems that not everyone has the luxury of doing this. If the client is upset about this, maybe it's a good idea to try to rectify the situation. It's a it's up to each person to make their choice of how they want to deal with things. What may work for me may not work for the next person.

 

There's ladies who have unique circumstances (even if the escort doesn't have unique circumstances) and I don't blame them for wanting to keep this information to themselves. If it's clean, there's no smells and the client is happy, all the power to you. It may not be for me but it seems that it has worked for some escorts and they are happy with this.

 

You can compare this to giving clients any other information for example about diseases, ect, however, there's ways for adults to protect themselves and dental dams, condoms, and std testing, could be good options for that. It starts to be a stepping over the boundaries type of situation and I agree that clients shouldn't be asking escorts if they work on their period.

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For the first time in a very long time.....

I started my "women time" just in the middle of a session. NEVER do I start mid day, is always early morn, it happen thankfully while condom was on, all covered. Now we did do daty, but he said there no sign of....

 

anyways...this was his first visit to any provider, and he took it with such grace and maturity. He was more then accommodating and understanding to say the least! Never was disgusted or ask for any money back, actually he says will return, hehehe

 

Now for me, I will choose only "half service" so I am lucky whereas I do provide massage, and massage plus, I will offer oral ending till I know I am done. That is my choice at this time. But if I were the girl who bleed for 2 weeks straight, I would accept regular clients and explain is their choice.

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Hmmmm so to recap.... women have a period each month and if you have sex with them there is the possibility that it might impact you..... wow... i never would have guessed.

 

OK I am making light of the topic but i am willing to bet every regular hobbiest has gas sex with a SP who was on their period... relax.... this is part of life. In regards to the health concerns.... hey if you want to perform DATY with out any protection then you should be willing to accept the risk.

 

There have been several mentions of one week a month...and that perhaps SP'S should not work... well what about those ladies who experience longer periods or who have irregular periods.... to expect ladies to not work us unrealistic.

 

Finally... i wonder if periods were something men had would we be having this duscussion...hmmmm

 

Just my opinion.

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