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MOD, You have done an amazing job with this board. Given, I have had some minor infractions myself, but never on purpose, and never with the intention to downgrade the site. I think you have done a wonderful job and I think it is time for you to receive a reward and some time off your self. I think a good idea so that you don't have to monitor so much is to give some of the elite hobbyist members a chance to do some of their own monitoring of posts etc. Many SP's have an amazing reputation here as well, and could also contribute in some way. I know you know all of this, but I just wanted to support you on it. I know without your amazing board my escorting business would be infinite times harder, more expensive, and exhausting. Instead, you've taken all this upon yourself. All the weight on your shoulders, and still have to put up with way too much crap. You're like our little Jesus:bowdown: hehe. Again, I know I've had some issues in the past, but I would like to humbly apologize and again Thank You sincerely for all the work you have done. Amazing Job. You're truly an asset to this Adult Community and I think it's time for you to get you're own award: The Selfless Adult Industry Advocate Award. Hereby awarded from the hooker with a heart of gold. Warmest Regards, Mia Bella

most rumours are usually bad, and can hurt. people who accuse people without proof, are usually starting rumours. people have lost, jobs, partners, friends over rumours and even their lives. and i am sure that many people on cerb have been effected by rumours in thier lives, who are members on cerb. and when a person reacts to a rumour in anger, it is generally the normal reaction. so i myself would like the people in the world today to stop making accussations without proof. HOPEFULLY

Thank you for posting this ED, it is a true step towards positivity. Having heard of many rumors about myself brought on by Gents and SPs no longer on this site I can attest that rumors are indeed poisonous. And in many cases slander towards a business some of us have worked hard on keeping drama-free. I am also very straight-up in defending any gent improperly convicted that one bad word against him due to something minor or gossip-worthy is something that shouldnt define them for future reference. I encourage anyone who has a backbone to ASK before ASSUMING. you dont have to say where you heard the gossip from...but inevitably its the people who ask before making up their own minds due to rumors who are the real adults in any scene....and will be rewarded as such. I am tempted to say more of my involvements with people spreading rumors about myself, as many have come to light recently....but all one can do is "suck it up" and feel sad for anyone believing rumors.... in the end it doesn't matter who believes what (as those are the people you dont need to worry about if they decide based on following the clan)....all anyone can do is keep being themselves. The rest are missing out. I had a couple clients I used to see and stopped seeing because half the session was spent gossiping about cerb drama or another SP who was my friend...very uncomfortable. On the same note i know several SPs who have bashed me to clients that have bashed them to me in private.....why do people do this? All I can do is question people's motives when I hear about their "inside scoop"...Why cant we all exist in this amazing community without putting ourselves above others? for those who hear something and believe it despite knowing someone....Lets all take a moment to second-guess whether the "juicy gossip" is worth passing on and ruining a person's business as an escort or a gents life as a hobbiest.

Many, many people view this site, and its a "small world after all". If there is some info about you that is very unique/rare, then letting it become common knowledge is not wise. If I was the only Swedish carpenter in Smallville, would I want my boss to know I'm Suzi ? He could be reading this too! Isa, a general answer, as you said (like Asian, Spanish, French) will have to suffice for now (your choice). Then change the subject (hint, that's off limits). I'm guessing your concern is that some one might pass on that info, that is not normally considered private, but it is to you.

The Mod got to my attention the 2 members who think or thought I am a "Tracie". I only can think about 1 person who could try to discredit me because I expose him for not paying the donation agreed upon. The other member God knows. I am leaving Cerb right now....this is my last thread. It was a pleasure to meet you all and I had a great time being here. Thanks to the 2 members who obviously are protecting the other members from "Tracie" All the best LoraLee:wink:

I posted at the start of the thread, but couple thoughts popped into my head In the course of conversation, the sp has every right to reveal any/some/none information about herself, just as the hobbiest has the same right. It is a matter of personal comfort and privacy for each and every individual As for the matter of nationality/race/ethnicity some sp's and agencies do advertise this, look at some ads advertising asian girls,(too numerous to count) brazilian ladies (2 come to mind), irish girls (couple agencies come to mind) etc etc etc. It is part of the advertising out there, by sp'/agencies. That having been said, for me, the ladies personality is more of a factor in her attractiveness than her looks...they are just icing on the cake My 2 cents more RG

Everyone is programmed from a very early age to rumour-monger. Words are the best weapon of choice against rivals and sometimes of defense against bullies. In fact, rumours are one the biggest ways teenage girls bully each in school (men as well, but not quite as much). And it simply moves on from there. Look at all the "dramas" aimed at the teenage TV viewer, like One Tree Hill and Jersey Shore. But then ask yourself, is Sex and the City any better? Or the nightly news for that matter (which has become more hearsay, opinion and in some cases naked fear and hate mongering). To ask that people stop rumour mongering would be like asking bullies to becme florists or politicians to become trustworthy; it will never happen. But we can be adults and assign rumours sufficient value when we hear them, considering them as important as garbage. There's a reason rumours aren't permitted to be heard in court. Until you get solid, hard evidence, rumours are just hot air designed to hurt someone (just another form of bullying, one that has resulted in some tragic and high profile suicides of late). Remember, we're all suppossed to be grown ups here, and while everyone may not always act like it, we should at least behave with common sense when suspiicous hearsay comes our way.

What Makes a Person? This is the title thread,and I know that there is other debates in the question such as nationality, but I look at the entire issue quite differently. When I strike a rapport with a lady, and recently there is few ladies that I really thoroughly enjoy talking to, and extending our relationship based on what really makes a good person below. It has nothing to do with race,color of skin,build,piercings,tattoo's, or in fact nationality,but it does however intrigued many of us. But my perspective on the question is the following-what makes a good person...... a) Genuine- a goodness from that heart and soul of that person. b) Authenticity- An authentically good person is transparent and shows the core of who they really are consistently allowing others to trust them. c) Compassionate- Compassion from heart makes a good person. They extend from their heart to others through support,empathy and understanding. d) Kindness- A kind person offers themselves to help others,their conscience does not allow them to neglect others. e) Forgiving- They let go of resentment and anger they are not a door mat to walk over but realize we all make mistakes. f) Respectful- A good person respects others,but this respect is derived from respect from themselves. g) Honest and Trustworthy- A good person is trustworthy who does not gossip.They do not get pleasure from hurting others.Their word is truth and is filled with honesty. So those characteristics above is what I think makes a good person, not where they might of been born,raised etc etc. .

Rumors- To be quite frank they have been around for quite sometime, asking people to stop spreading rumors just will never happen. I can remember years ago, a very excellent service provider that all men were lining up to see her, 1- because of her beauty and service and 2- because her rates were much lower then others in Ottawa! She quickly had disappeared. Why you ask? Well rumor has it SP's decided it would be great to get her out of the way by spreading shit on her, that she was diseased of course red flags went off, and well she was quite hurt, decided to pack it in for a while. The problem more recently between a SP and a hobbiest that was so well discussed about an apparent relationship, and brought forward to MOD was done again to simply disgrace her, because she was BUSIER then the others (my formed opinion and some others state the same). Good for her, she is stronger then the idiot that started this crap on her, they were friends and well now she started the rumor shit, she lost a friendship. So it goes without saying that rumors are simply spread here or in bedrooms out of pure jealousy or a dislike may it be about an SP or a hobbiest. Sometimes SP's may do it just out of spite, and being hurtful, I have heard before and sure will hear it again, "It is a cut throat business" and sometimes you just gotta put up with shit like this. For those that did spread the rumors or gossip keep doing it! You will only hurt yourself, (and you are quite aware who you are)your business will end up suffering. Drama,hearsay,and rumors will always be around, you just have to learn and understand where the shit came from and simply pay no attention to it.

Personally, the lady's nationality is not relevant at all in deciding whether to meet her or not. However, as others have pointed out, it is relevant as part of the conversation during the appointment. Because of the nature of the client-SP relationship there is already a long enough list of questions that are not appropriate to ask an SP, without adding nationality to the list. One's nationality is an important part of who you are, and refusing to disclose this information severely hinders the possibility of establishing a client-provider connection. Personally, I see mostly MPAs and knowing their nationality is an important part of the conversation. I have seen MPAs of many nationalities - Russian, Moroccan, Colombian, American, Quebecoise, etc, and quite frankly, I believe that, in all cases, if the MPA would have, for some reason refused to disclose or discuss her nationality at all, it would have severely restricted the conversation. For example, the MPA I see most often right now is from Casablanca, Morocco, and just knowing her makes me want to know more about her country of origin, because I think it will help me to get to know her better. Since meeting her I find myself researching info on Morocco, precisely because I am interested in her. So, this is definitely one of the topics of conversation during our time together.

First I like to say this is one of the most interesting thread I have read in a long time as everyone has brought up some interesting points. To answer the original comment, just do your homework. Read ads/website from ladies and you will find ladies who offer that service, a few have been mentioned already and some in their ads hint to asking with comments such as: "and more..." I also wanted to comment specifically on Megan's post because I summarized it as providing "honest advertising" As she mentioned in her last para most services are YMMV with obvious reasons such as personal Hygiene etc... Isn't it frustrating to read an ad in any business and find out half of it is bullshit. You get to a store or a hotel and find out your not getting what was written in the ad. As Megan brought up seems some agencies who advertise a lot on the Board/net advertise same services for all the ladies when it's well known on this board that is not the case. At least many here know that not all agency girls offer the same services as not all indy girls do. But to many newbies that want to get into hobbying they sometimes believe all they read and thing they will get what is in the ad. What a shock they get when they meet the agency girl at her room and she tells them she doesn't offer BBBJ or whatever the other service was advertise by the agancy. Poor fellow is put in a bad situation does he leave and the lady looses and he probably wonders if he does leave will there be some tugs waiting for him outside??? Not sure he stays pay for the time without getting exactly what he wanted. Then they write a bad review/comment on other places that allow it. Next thing you know the agency cries foul cause they had a bad review and gets on the Board looking for support to eliminate the bad review blaming it on the client. Here is a good reason agencies here in OT have a bad rep and i stay away from them due to this false advertising. So again there are many views on how much should be advertise. First i would say be honest in what you do write. Personally as was mentioned I see nothing wrong in advertising CIM. One thing to keep in mind, is the less you put in your ad adn suggest to PM or e-mail to find out, the more curious questions you might receive and could be overwhelming. There are more then 20 thousand CERB members so imagine if half of them send you a PM or e-mail to inquire about which services you provide???? Proper advertising is extremely important and some ladies obviously spend time preparing their ads which I think is very professional! To me this is an indication of seriousness, attitude and commitment to their work. I would rather see a lady with a great personality that has less available services then one who offers everything but her conversation is limited to: "your hour is up"