backrubman

OMG! Sincerely, the place just wasn't at all the same without you RG!

I never make requests but I really prefer that the lady not get dressed up and just wear whatever she might if I wasn't coming to visit. If I'm pressed for a suggestion jeans and a T-shirt or especially whatever she is truly most comfortable in, even PJs. To me her clothes are the least important aspect. I'm going to visit the person so her personality is the most important thing and anything else would just be a bonus.

I like to find her as she is, not as she has gone to the unnecessary trouble to make herself look like just for me :)

Yeah, coolest of all is exactly how she would appear if I was not coming to see her.

... and the rise of Leolist

I hadn't heard of "leolist" so I set about to find out what it was and after accessing a page or two my Malware Bytes Premium blocked it and alerted that is was attempting to install malware.

I find it rather sickening that you can be infected with malware simply by visiting a web site with a windozzze PC but alas that is the case.

Has anyone taken one of these wonderful women on an vacation.

Yes. I have enjoyed the company of spectacular ladies many times for a week or two at a time and it's highly worth while as it's a completely different experience.

Obviously you need to know the lady fairly well BEFORE planning a trip. I would also recommend making sure she is completely independent (has her own room), has lots of time to herself (you would want some also) and even the ability to leave and return home at any time without any reliance on you, just for her own comfort and security.

I have found that a good approach at a resort is to give her a small two-way radio and invite her to contact me only when she wants to hang out.

I've also been turned down quite a few times when I have inquired about such an excursion (which is to be expected) but any lady that did accept my invitation had an awesome time, I made sure of that!

Sounds like it's time for you to get a Burner Phone...

I suppose there are circumstances where a "burner phone" could be hard to explain if it was discovered and might have the exact opposite effect of what is intended by getting one.

Personally I would just use my everyday phone but it's necessary ensure that you don't have anyone in your contact list and delete call history and text messages immediately and don't use any invasive apps like Facebook. Some billing from carriers will show all calls (even ones that don't count against your airtime, etc.).

Perhaps a better idea than a burner is to unlock your phone (if it isn't already unlocked) and just change the SIM card to a prepaid one when you need to be a secret agent for a short time.

I seem to recall there is a new law where your carrier has to provide the unlock code for your phone after you have had it for 3 months or more and the bill is kept current.

Most Lyla ladies are really professional and won't text or call you when you might not be expecting it.

I think a discovered burner phone could be a much bigger problem than explaining an errant text message that was "obviously sent to the wrong number".

This used to be more of a problem but thankfully it seems almost everyone has switch to e-cigarettes or has quit (having previously switched to e-cigarettes) so smoking actual cancer causing cigarettes that smell so bad is becoming obsolete quickly.

Better yet, if you want to use someone as a reference, have the courtesy to drop her a line and ask first...

One thing that "bothers" me about the whole reference idea starts with what Phaedrus said which is exactly right, it's only polite to ask first.

The troublesome part is that 9 times out of 10 the subsequent query or reference request never actually occurs for whatever reason so the polite asking if it's ok to use as a reference ends up (ultimately) amounting to extraneous chatter.

To hub dude...that will go down as an urban myth. The password can only be used for the actual etransfer and no one can hack into your account unless they have super mad skills. It's a one time thing.

That's not what I meant Meg. If the email account is already compromised and you send an e-transfer and also email the password then both component parts are known and the transfer can be deposited into any account (not necessarily the one it was intended for).

How could the account already be compromised? Well I have seen a lady log into her email and although I didn't choose to make note of her password (as I would never do something like that) I very easily could have. On another occasion a lady asked to use my computer which could have logged her keystrokes for later review even if I wasn't looking. We have seen the occasional reports (even here) that a lady's email account was compromised, make no matter how, it happens.

I have a question about the reference program that the sp's use. I am wondering what my brothers think about an sp who doesn't use it. How do you feel about that service provider?

I don't think it matters. Each lady does what she thinks is best for her. If the lady insists on a reference, I'm fine with that. If she doesn't see the value in doing that, I don't think it really indicates very much of anything about her. Some ladies believe in asking for references while others just don't have the time or see the value in it.

I deal with TD and they give you the option to send using any email address even if just a temporary setting on you account Cheers!

That's great (with TD) but certainly one bank I have used for this purpose (RBC) doesn't ask for this information (or allow you to supply it) when doing an e-transfer and they send a lot of detail even my "legal name" (e.g. not the similar name I would generally go by). While TD maybe somewhat anonymous enough for the purpose right now' date=' I suppose it is subject to change at any time without notice.

I prefer to pay in full and have the transaction completed ahead of time when visiting [b']someone I know and trust[/b], it's just one less thing to worry about and I have no issue with them knowing my legal name as I don't see any benefit in playing secret agent. If you do use e-transfer you should send the password by a different method (not email) as any random stranger with both the email and the password can deposit the transaction into any account and it would be difficult to reverse.

Of course paying a stranger is very likely a good way for them to remain a stranger and never meet them :)

A least they haven't yet published their names like they were all too quick to do in Sydney...

Do you know of one in Ottawa where you can actually do this? I've used most of the bitcoin/instacoin atms in Ottawa and Hull and at none of them can you turn bitcoins back into CAD or any actual currency.

No, I used to visit Ottawa often but my office there is no more and as a result I haven't had the pleasure of a visit to Ottawa in a couple of years, I guess it is long overdue. I would think that LocalBitCoins would be very fast and efficient in a city like Ottawa.

(bitcoins actually lost a lot this winter, on my wallet they're trading under $1100 now,) they're pretty much useless.

Oh, I just checked and they are trading for $2,550 on QuadrigaCX so if you'd held on to those $1100 coins you would have doubled your money.

... What I really don't like about paypal is not only the paper trail, but that your name is visible.

PayPal has strict policies against these transactions so it's definitely not the solution and they also charge 2.9% + $0.30.

Is there an easy way to turn Bitcoins back into actual money?

Bitcoins are actual money and more useful than Canadian or US dollars but yes of course, you can exchange your bitcoin for fiat currency if you must. I started heavily investing in Bitcoin when it was around $100 and when it reached $1000 US I cashed out 75% of my investment to take profit, of course I wish I hadn't as it's now over $2,100 Canadian but 20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing:)

In larger cities there are Bitcoin ATMs which can convert fiat currency to bitcoin and back again. If you want to buy or sell Bitcoin from the comfort of your home QuadrigaCX is a Canadian bitcoin exchange based in Vancouver and CEX.IO LTD is another popular choice with offices in London, UK and a payment partner in Lefkosia, Cyprus. You can also use localbitcoins.com which is more conventional (cash, Interac transfers, PayPal etc.).

Bitcoin is something very strange to most people that haven't used it but as soon as you have used bitcoin to pay for a hotdog from a vendor on a street corner it seems almost magical as to how simple and easy it is.

Youtube has many (too many) videos that explain anything and everything bitcoin for anyone that wants to understand it.

It's obviously anonymous and untraceable enough because unfortunately it has become the favorite way for people to purchase anything and everything illegal on the dark/deep web.

...BitCoin is too hard for both sides to use and leaves a trail of it's own.

I agree it's hard for people to initially understand but actually doing a bitcoin transaction is much easier than any other method.

In my case it is most often a lady I will have seen in the past, likely many times so I prefer just to pay in advance, the full amount, by Interac email transfer. It doesn't cost me more and then it's one less thing to worry about. Ladies know their business but they usually aren't computer security experts so I always send the password for the deposit via SMS or some other method to ensure the deposit doesn't get diverted by a compromised email account.

I started seriously buying bitcoins when it was under $100. Now that it is $2154 Canadian one would think the Ladies would be more than willing to accept bitcoin even if they didn't quite understand what to do with it, but rather as an investment :)

While every bitcoin transaction is a matter of public record, knowing who owns account 1BvBMSEYstWetqTFn5Au4m4GFg7xJaNVN2 is virtually impossible.

She's back.

I really have to meet this lady... her ad says "NO LOW BALLERS I WILL NOT ANSWER", I'm not really sure what a "low baller" is but she is psychic and knows what they are (whatever that is) before she answers the phone and won't answer.

The truth be told, under the new world order, you are basically posting an admission of guilt to a criminal act.

I see that as the main reason that recommendations have gone down.

I'm a new member and just wanted to introduce myself. This appears to be a respectful place and I've enjoyed reading the many contributions.

I can't believe the amount of time that has passed since your nice post and no one to welcome you, it didn't used to be that way around here that is for sure and there are still some very friendly and knowledgeable people, they just visit a lot less often than perhaps they used to.

In any event I does present me with the opportunity to welcome you and point out that the place is still a real store house of knowledge and collection of great people.

So welcome and please don't be afraid to ask questions!

Yeah PayPal is a terrible idea - they commonly freeze funds and accounts of (suspected) sex workers even if the account has never been used for that purpose. ...

And PayPal transactions are easily reversed unless you send it special as "Money Owed" or to "Friends and Family". Interac email transfers work well enough if you don't need anonymity.

BitCoin is the only way that no one (other than the sender and receiver) have control over anything as there is no third party involved, can be truly anonymous and good luck to LE in proving that the transaction even occurred :)

I guess that this would not change the issue of my real name that might show' date=' whichever email address I use or create. Hm...[/quote']

 

That's right. I just checked my inbox (which has many Interac e-payment advisories from multiple senders using multiple banks) and in ALL cases, the email comes from:

 

From: LEGAL NAME <[email protected]>

 

Where LEGAL NAME is the name of the bank account holder as it is known to the sending financial institution.

 

Of course I don't find this disturbing in the least. Any Lady I have sent funds to in this manner knows my real name anyways.

 

To be clear, the Lady does not need to reveal her name to receive funds, they can be sent to ANY e-mail address but she should have a "non provocative" or "non descriptive" e-mail address to receive Interac payments as it does become a matter of record at the bank. In fact, I don't see the e-mail address of the sender at all, just their name.

 

Of course a BitCoin transfer comes from a BitCoin address (which can be different for every transaction, even from the same sender) and looks like this (as an example): 3J98t1WpEZ73CNmQviecrnyiWrnqRhWNLy and it might (as an example) be sent to 1BvBMSEYstWetqTFn5Au4m4GFg7xJaNVN2. Good luck to LE trying to associate that with a person as there is no one in the world with this information other than the sender and receiver. Obviously that is one of the aspects of BitCoin that makes it attractive to criminals and scares governments. If I want to wire over $10,000 via a financial institution I have to complete lots of information for FINTRAC but I can send any amount of BitCoin, instantly and Internationally and no one can stop me or know I did it :)

As for BitCoins, I wish there was a point for me to accept them, but I have nowhere to spend it (no ads running), but it is a wonderful idea!

Well if you do a Google search for "business that accept BitCoin" you'll likely be quite surprised but aside from that back in 2010 a BitCoin cost around $0.06 and today that same BitCoin is worth $886.76 CAD. Aside from just hanging on to them as a very speculative and uncertain investment there are BitCoin ATMs appearing where you can buy or sell BTCs and yeah, I've actually bought a hotdog at a hotdog stand using BitCoin, just like a couple ounces of Gold, sometimes not a lot you can actually do with it at this instant but far from worthless.

I think in this business there is value in the transaction taking place in BitCoin. Given the change in Canada's laws I think it would really throw the Crown Prosecutor and Judge for a loop if the transaction took place using BitCoin instead of conventional money :) Good luck to them proving in a Court room that such a transaction took place at all. With no central control there is no way for them to establish who sent who money.

Of course if you have an account on QuadrigaCX you can buy and sell BitCoin and transfer the funds to and from your bank account with ease. I'm not suggesting you set up such an account (as it is a lot of effort) but all you need is to know one trustworthy person that has the ability to convert it for you and there are more and more of those folks around all the time (people who can covert BTC to dollars easily, not necessarily trustworthy of course). I'd certainly have no trouble or issues with converting ANY quantity of BitCoin for a Lady I know well.

I would never show my passport to anybody. Ever. I wouldn't even mention it to a stranger. This would make me a target of interest. As for IDs, Maybe I would keep one out if requested, but my wallet stays in the safe. Always.

I'm not at all interested in the Lady's real identity, just her reputation here and it's been my experience if she knows who I really am it just gives her a little less to worry about.

I've been paid through e-mail transfers and I never saw the sender's legal name anywhere so I'm sure there's a way to do it keeping their identity private.

It really depends on the sending bank. My bank (RBC) definitely adds my legal name and I have no control over that. Of course it is my standard practice to show the lady my passport if I haven't met her before (because privacy on both sides is not only expected, it's part of the service and I see no value in playing secret agent, it can only serve to make her less at ease if she doesn't know who I really am) and of course I will have checked her out as well to ensure she has a good reputation before sending her funds in advance.

Also people have sent me rent money via TD and it also shows their name in the subject line.

I'm not at all familiar with this one, but it sounds to me like the challenge is aimed more at the entrapment than the sex work side of things. If that's the case, then this isn't the challenge that most folks here would like to see.

And entrapment is perfectly legal in Canada, many people think it is not because of American TV and for similar reasons they assumed prostitution was illegal in Canada when it was (at the time) perfectly legal, that of course has now changed.

Shame, shame, shame on the Sydney police for waving people over and offering them sexual services without delivering :)

Get them used to the vacuum. All three here get vacuumed daily . Cleanliness is close to Godliness! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I wish I could but Mr. Vacuum cleaner makes too loud a noise. Even their natural curiosity isn't enough to overcome the instinct to run and hide from such a loud evil robot machine who's exact purpose is unknown.

I think their very sensitive hearing plays a major role. They can hear the lid of a can of cat food being removed from several miles away (or at least from the opposite end of the house, 3 stories away) :)

So I have a soft hair brush and they love that treatment.

... The oldest one even likes to be vacuumed!

All of ours run and hide like it's an all out zombie apocalypse when they see Mr. Vacuum cleaner coming :)