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neebleton

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  1. In my view, one of the huge upsides of the internet in terms of the provision of sex work is that much of the information about providers and what services those providers actually provide is readily and publicly available, either via ads, reviews, or through interactions with the SP his/herself. This prevents any sort of surprise and minimizes the need for a negotiation of fees because the pricing is transparent and available beforehand so you can make an informed decision. To give an example in a different industry, I wouldn't haggle with my dentist about his prices, but I absolutely would decline to get elective surgery if I didn't think it was worth the price he was asking.

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  2. Kind of tangential to having sex with someone who is asleep by mistake, but an interesting take on the situation of consent with unconscious partners.

     

    Consider the case R. v. J.A (summarized here). which was recently heard by the Supreme Court of Canada.

     

    In it, a woman consented to sex with a partner, and for her partner to choke her unconscious. While unconscious, he penetrated her with a toy. She regained consciousness, and they continued having consensual sex. Later, she complained to the police about this behaviour, though she ultimately tried to withdraw her complaint. However, prosecution proceeded.

     

    The court ruled that the penetration while the woman was unconscious must be considered an assault because consent in sex is predicated on the ability to withdraw that consent at any time during the activity. Being unconscious removes that ability, so consensual sex cannot exist while one partner is unconscious even if that partner consented initially.

     

    There are a couple of issues with this reading - ie, if you kiss your partner while s/he is sleeping, have you committed a sexual assault?

     

    Additionally, in the dissenting opinion one judge noted that this ruling deprives women of the right to partake in activities that do not result in bodily harm. Conceivably, someone might love getting fondled while sleeping. I don't understand why someone would, but there's a lot of things people do sexually that I don't understand.

     

    Anyway, my point is that if you accept the court's ruling, even if you are a 'nice guy' who gets consent to have sex with a sleeping women, because she cannot withdraw consent, you are committing an assault.


  3. I don't even care so much that it's illegal in the US, what matters more to me is the harshness of the penalties. These include: public shaming, being put on sex offender registries (along with rapists and pedophiles), being sent to "john school" re-education camps, and as mentioned above, effective exile.

     

    These punishments seem entirely out of proportion with what is a consensual act with no harms to the person or state.

     

    It reminds of Singapore where the punishment for drug dealing is execution (though recently they softened their response to merely life imprisonment with torture)

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