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Guys, I know you all want to help assist your fellow hobbiest but posting rates is not welcome. You can PM them if you wish but please do not post them publicly. The ladies are the ONLY members allowed to post rates and they are ONLY allowed to post rates in the schedules and announcements area - the guys are not permitted to post rates. We most certainly will not allow anyone to promote ladies who are undercutting other sp's. I know if you find someone offering really cheap rates you want to share it with other members but this undercuts all the ladies who work hard to promote themselves online and shows no respect to the real escorts we have here on cerb as our members. Ladies you find off dating sites are not working full time in the hobby so posting some street walker rate they are offering just helps kill the industry. The ladies here on cerb read that and get very upset. Some stop contributing to the site because of stuff like that. Sorry but that does not make a SP friendly board in any way. Also... I do not wish to moderate the social groups but the social groups are not to be used to circumvent the rules of the site. If I find posts on the social groups that break the site rules I will be upset and delete the social group. It is the responsibility of the owner of the social group to moderate his or her group. The only extra permission I have given for the social groups is that if the social group is a private group we will allow full nude photos to be posted in private in the group (as long as you have permission to post them of course).

I have been wondering these questions: Is "cerb" located in an office? Technically cerb is a website so it's on a hard drive in a computer in cyberspace... but Yes, our company is design co. (same owners as escorts-canada.com localescort.ca and many other escort related sites) We have a physical office in Barrie Ontario (but... I often work from home - Shhh! Don't tell anyone!). I go in to the office for weekly meetings (and to cover for people when they are away like this week for instance as Dave "the site manager for localescort.ca" is on vacation this week so we are all covering his shifts). Mod, are you male? female? I am male but keep in mind I am not the only mod on cerb all the time. we do have female staff as well and we all read the threads on cerb (I know this as they are topic of conversation at the office all the time). Any of the staff can log in as the MOD (but few ever do unless I am away now). we use to share this account equally but when the site started to get really busy it was just confusing having everyone moderate at the same time. We were stepping on each others shoes. I guess I drew the short straw (Just Kidding - I actually enjoy moderating the site most of the time, most of you are friendly and I still enjoy being part of the site - I just hate the trouble makers, complainers, people who continue to break the same rules over and over and basically anyone who makes my job harder than it needs to be). When was "cerb" started? It was started back in 2001 (I think) we did not start it ... it was started by a guy names Mark (in Vancouver) and was part of the localescorts.ca website. We purchased the site from him and in 2003 and we separated the site from localescorts and cerb was born later that year. We than upgraded to the software that we use today in 2004 (after the old software was hacked badly as the original software it ran on was FREE software and not secure) Most memorable moments? With cerb? When the site started to really take off back in 2004 and we proved a escort site without all the negative reviews or circus threads with people fighting and ganging up on people would be popular! Scary Stories? We have had some really pissed off pimps recently and some very unstable people over the years (they usually feel the need to call us and threaten whoever is unfortunate enough to answer the call) - I personally only answer the phones when I am covering for someone so luckily I just hear about the crazies but I have had a few myself. I can count the people on my hands that scare me... so it's no more or no less than any other type of business. What is the traffic like on a daily basis? I have posted traffic stats in the past for cerb. It gets very good traffic. Do a search for "Traffic" and you will find some threads with details and stats. Any challenges "running" cerb? Every day! Basically you could say running a site like this is a challenge. The list of challenges is a mile long and I would not have the time to go into that one! LOL... I can say it sure is not as easy as it would look from the outside. Hackers, spammers, trouble makers, complainers, rule breakers, immature people, kids, gossip, flame wars, PM spam, moderating, site upgrades, site updates, security patches, new mods, adding features, maintaining multiple servers to run one site, budgets, etc... etc... etc...it never ends. In order to have a site that looks like everyone follows the rules take a LOT of work. Thankfully we have a lot of really great members here who help by flagging bad posts and spam PMs, offering advise and much more!

I know this is not directly related to the thread subject BUT I would like to point out an important detail! Flossing and brushing your teeth before an intimate rendez-vous with a lovely Lady (or with a gentleman) should be avoided!!! Why? Because flossing and brushing can cause your gums to bleed therefore creating a perfect opening for HIV to get into your bloodstream. http://www.aidsmap.com/en/docs/C858FF44-5E81-4F59-8030-B5A3C7A93654.asp "Look after your mouth. The likelihood of oral HIV transmission increases if one has bleeding gums, ulcers, cuts or sores in the mouth. Don’t brush your teeth or floss before oral sex." Something to think about ;) Use mouthwash and stay safe! ;) xox

Lot of guys are calling me, asking me how I work, if there's somthing they should do before coming to my place, how to be at ease toghetter... Here's my Top 10 of things I appreciate... They are not always available (the guy having a relationship, or in a rush), but others are VERY appreciate from most of escorts, I think... 1. I feel more confident when the client places the money in a way I can see it and count it as soon as he enters my room... 2. I preffer when he uses my stuff instead of his... If I am using a certain brand instead of another, it's because I feel more cormftable with it, and I know this stuff is safe. Also, some SPs may be allergic to yours, and eventhough you lost your time, but hers also... 3. I love when we get to know each others a bit before the session. I'm not the kind of bang-bang, ciao... I'm about to give you the best service I can... Help me by telling me what you like and what you don't... 4. I feel a little nervous about cops... I preffer he undresses before I have to ask... I am an SP, your not the first guy I saw naked... And don't worry, NOBODY has a perfect body, so don't be shy, I've seen worst! 5. I feel more at ease when he's asking for a quick shower before the session... In most of incall places, there's shower and towells available... Use it! 6. There's a line between rough and violent... Please, respect your SP... 7. Alchool and drugs can create issues or behaviors that will make both uncormftable... 8. If you are not an expert (and there's no experts in sex) take the SPs advice... We are doing this for a living... If there's something she feels wrong about, either she will teach you how to do it properly, or asking you not to do it... Everybody has something to learn... 9. Rough beard can causes a lot of dammage to an SP... Either in kissing or DATY... Also, it's not fun to suck on an hairy dick and sack... Please think of us... Sanded nails are also always appreciated... 10. TO RESPECT EACH OTHER'S LIMITS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU AND HER... Again, showing up to your wife with a shaved sack, when you never did it in 20 years is a bit suspicious... Not all of lines of conducts are possible, and we, as girls, can understand that... But please understand that due to different factors your mileage may vary(YMMV) according to how many efforts we both put into are meeting... AFTER ALL, AN SP IS SOMEBODY YOU WILL NEVER EXPECT TO GET A DATE WITH, BUT IS THERE TO GIVE YOU THE BEST MOMENT OF YOUR LIFE!!!

I'm fairly comfortable with my own self, very much more than I used to be. Age/wisdom/experience has contributed to that. Still need to hit the gym though, more for feeling healthy and having more stamina...if a little shaping comes out of it, all the better! And back to the topic at hand - sorry - don't think I ever managed to get 3 off. Maybe once, can't say for sure. Generally I don't like to do more than 1 in a 1 hour session, because I like to be somewhat cordial to the ladies. But I can and have in certain cases. Anything over 90 mins, it's typical for me to get 2 off no problem. But it is all about quality over quantity...one good one beats 3 quickies and it's so much better to savour everything...

[quote name=buggernot;73877 And since I'm a voyeur' date=' that means somebody else might be too so it's intimidating to think that maybe I got a dude watching me do my thing. So...love to be a voyeur, not so sure about the voyee. Someday perhaps I'll join the poly group...after I hit the gym ;)[/quote] No need to hit the gym, all men must be comfortable in their own skin, some men have pot bellies,hairy as hell,muscular,not muscular.it is all about keeping yourself happy and enjoying who you are and how good you feel about your inner and outer self. Years back during my High School days we(men/boys) were required always to take a shower after gym class. Now nothing like having 30 guys in a shower area, holding their peckers in their hand waiting for shower nozzle to become available. I had no issues back then, and don't today about being naked in front other men. Perhaps it was my upbringing,all the sports I played throughout my time, always in the shower after hockey or football, but I'm always good with who I'am ;) ohh ya..I was never the type to hold my pecker or hide it, I enjoyed just letting it hang-out! My first time MMFF I thought I would say to myself,ahhh hell its just duo, with a good friend filling another hole;) because I can't do it all by myself, I like sharing! I was too a little gun shy during my first MMFF, after my first SOG, my partner was watching me get off my 2nd SOG. I had such a over whelming desire to really get off by 1 of the ladies as we her very intense DFK'ing and it was not long that I did even know anyone was even watching. It probably only took 10 seconds to forget anyone was there. Your mind takes you to a erotic elevation that you never been before, so what/who/where watching really means nothing. My 2nd MMFF, I was lying down and enjoying both ladies to myself while my partner already had his 2 shots on goal, so he watched as both ladies pleasantly attacked me, and again erotic fantasy comes alive, and away you go without a reminder or thinking who is that sitting on chair watching. Just who is sitting on your face and who is riding you cowgirl:-D

Definitely have to say the poly thing is extremely intriguing as I have always been a voyeur. But as much as we all share a same open interest here and people are not complete strangers, there's still that trepidation of exposing myself to another man that I'm not 100% familiar with. Put me in a room full of women I've never met, I'll be down to the old b-day suit in no time, but other dudes brings out that...competitive spirit in me. And since I'm a voyeur, that means somebody else might be too so it's intimidating to think that maybe I got a dude watching me do my thing. So...love to be a voyeur, not so sure about the voyee. Someday perhaps I'll join the poly group...after I hit the gym ;)

http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13848&highlight=taboo http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13792&highlight=taboo http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4700&highlight=taboo I hope this helps, there are more, and some on the other boards as well. Good luck !

Most of it has already been said but, expect is one thing, some of this is obviously what I expect, other things are what I would like, especially on first visits, repeat visits often I jump right in, but the first time should be handled with care. -GFE+ is important, the best experiences I had start with a chat on the first visit, in fact I usually book extra time when I see a new SP just for that reason. The truly exceptional ones were the ones that messaged me in advance almost reminding me (not that I would forget) that I am seeing them in a few days or hours. And of course when you are there the phone should be off, laptop closed, etc.. -Like any business that you want to be successful care about your clients, you are supposed to be our GFE for the experience, take a few moments to re-read the PM's, remember the name, any special requests, any details they mentioned. What impresses me is if I mention I liked something about them, or it is a repeat and we talked about an outfit or prefered actions that you respond with those suggestions. In business I always research the company so when I meet my clients I know what they do and their needs so I can respond to them...it is the same in any industry. -I have to do incalls and prefer to meet at the hotel or residence the SP works out of. Discretion obviously is important so definitely no calls to me, texts imo are fine as long as they are careful. Another great person also deletes my number from her phone (history and texts) after our time, not because she doesn't like me, but to protect me. -Shower facilities are a must as I usually opt for early morning sessions and go to work afterwards. I am very well groomed so generally am not asked to shower first, but love shower play so would have no issues starting with that:-D -Absolutely no other people in the room unless it is a duo, privacy in this hobby is key to me and I think it would be highly unproffesional if someone else was there (male or female...male way worse of course). The arrangement is between me and the provider..anyone else is an unknown and my spider senses would tingle and I would probably, no I would definitely, leave. -Space your visits apart...please! I know things go long sometimes and people are in this as a business, but what will guarantee no repeat from me is bumping into the next guy on my way out. It has never happened to me, but it is something I have worried about, part of the reason I choose the ones who are well recommended and will never TOFTT (sorry). -It doesn't really need to be said, but no drugs and very little drinking, a glass or two of wine together is fine, but walking in and seeing a person wobbling will have me right back out the door. -It sounds cheesy but make me feel special, I can get sex in other ways but I am here for the experience, if it is mechanical I am done...I know that is not always easy depending on the client or the chemistry, but put that effort in there and the success will come (imho).

a big one for me for incalls is RESPECT THE SPs DISCRETION when it comes to her location and her surroundings. once you walk in enter quickly and dont stand in the doorway saying something like "wow, you're hotter than your pictures" (even if its true) you never know who is passing by in the hall etc. enter quickly and close ythe door behind you, then you're free to do as you please. ;-) same applies when being walked to the door, when about to leave try not to discuss to heavily in detail her profession or your hobby....i rememebr in my old place you could hear an entire conversation from the hall if someone was talking outside.....its something that we always tend to forget until we realize how much we can hear others. so saying something like "I had a great time, I'll see you next week? same price?" might not go over well if heard from a nosy neighbor, lol

Your are correct there is nothing wrong if that question is asked discreetly and privately in PM not in a public discussion. The other members of the board were trying to suggest that to you nicely but instead you decided to make an issue of it. Your perception that the members of this board are not supportive is completely messed up. We are the most supportive hobbiest community I've come across, so long as the rules and common sense are respected. You made a faux pas, you were gently and kindly advised of it then made a big stink of it. Unfortunately you've chosen to pick up your toys and go play else where you are welcome to make that choice, it's no real loss to this community. After 3 years of membership no recommendations , one warning about an obvious scam and the rest of your posts were about this issue of being attacked ? You claim to be respectful to the ladies however you disrespected Belle not only by hijacking her thread but then to suggest you did not have a good encounter with her, in her own recomendation thread. Wow that's some realy respect. Ah, don't let the door hit you on the way out. C'ya!