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Yes, most dancers don't wear a lot of perfume. The girl I'm thinking of only has a very faint hint of body lotion. It leaves an incredible memory with me.

In the late 80's early 90's they were all wearing "Poison" (and that combined with the smell of cigarettes back when everybody smoked inside the clubs). Now there are all sorts of different perfumes and no more smoke inside, but the perfume smell can definitely be detected immediately upon entering any club! :)

I danced at the Nu Den for 2 years and loved it' date=' but since the change in management the place has gone downhill, in my view.

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I don't go there nearly as much as I did when you danced there, but they've made a lot of improvements in the decor--the downstairs CR is by far the classiest looking in Ottawa, the chairs/couches throughout the club are attractive, the bathroom is quite nice (although the "trough"-type urinal is strange and the attendant expecting tips on Saturday nights is annoying), better looking murals on the walls, etc. Late Saturday nights is still extremely busy--I prefer much quieter daytimes.

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Caroline is a good friend of mine. Last time we spoke' date=' she was working at Bare Fax.

 

She still is.

 

Was Bobbie a very young, half-Black half-White woman? I believe I actually introduced her to the Nu Den. I know her real name, but I've forgotten her dancer name. If that is her, she's no longer in Ottawa, as far as I know. (EDIT - Nevermind I think her name was actually Billy)[/quote']

 

Yep, it was definitely Billie (She told me she chose it because she liked Billie Holliday, so I bet she spelled it like that! :) She was definitely one of my favourites.

I've noticed that stage names have become a lot more "normal" sounding in the past few years. That's a welcome change, but the trend that I thought was a bit odd is that I've had several younger dancers lately mention their real names right away, off-hand, totally unprompted. Has anyone else noticed this, and do you think it's just the Facebook-generation not being concerned with privacy as well as the lessened stigma about stripping these days?

15 years ago when I last went there they had a sign on the door that said "No Gang Colours Allowed". I promptly decided that a place with a sign like that was no place for a guy like me who wouldn't know a gang colour if he tripped over it, so I never went back. Of course, I switched to the Nuden, which doesn't have a sign but I've heard repeatedly is also heavily involved with the biker subculture so there's probably no avoiding it in this hobby.

I'm contemplating dancing' date=' probably at Pigales, this New Year's Eve.[/quote']

 

 

Did you end up going?

Must have been difficult in their crappy little cattle-stall champagne room! That has to be the worst CR ever.

Almost totally empty of clients. You wouldn't think so as it's right downtown, but usually just a bunch of dancers standing around hoping for some guy to walk in. Nuden is also very quiet. Barefax has much more daytime traffic, Pigale even more so.

They built a gorgeous new VIP room downstairs (it's behind the wall with the old small open booths).

I wonder if the new bar "Obsession" will go the way of "Topaz", the pool hall on St. Laurent that closed years ago. Location seems to be the problem--there's nothing else in the industrial location to lure people.

There's a small stage and pole, and plenty of room for a couple, but no movie screen.

I remember as a kid in the early 80's seeing those little "Cinema Pussycat" ads in the Citizen for dirty movies in a theatre in Hull, but since VHS then DVD then Video On Demand I think the demand for public porn theatres has probably dropped off a cliff.

And i gotta say I LOVE the new CR set up there. Much more private than any other club I've been to in the region since the new "open concept" law in Ottawa.

I haven't been to Pigale's in a long time. What did they change about the rooms?

So the solution is hang around guys with bigger wallets than self-control. :pimp:

Self-control's over-rated anyway! :grin:

Another blondie named Sediment also was exotic.

I sure hope that was a typo and you meant to type Cinnamon or something SA, otherwise that might be the worst stage name ever! :)

I love pole dancing. I'm not great at it...

I really must say that that's a big fat lie! :lol:

You're right, many clubs are completely dead with very few girls right at lunch time. Barefax isn't like that at all (you'd think with the downtown location Barb's would be busy too, but not so much). The Fax has lots of girls who start before noon.

She was one of my favourite dancers at the Nuden. I was then happy to find out that she moved to the massage club CMJ--I got a lot of dances from her in their "Seduction Lounge" (kind of like your own private Champagne Room, except with a stage and pole, and much more economical than a strip club!). She left there several months ago, and I don't know what she's doing now.

Looks like a brunette to me. Still beautiful though! :)

The NuDen has both men and women and couple shows a few times a year watch for ad in sun.

My wife and I used to enjoy going to them years ago, but they stopped running them (and I always wondered why, since the place was packed--way more than the typical evening). They switched to just occasional "Chippendales"-type shows for women, which aren't real enticing for me to go to. (Like their website says they're having a "Girls Night Out" on November 7, "Ladies Only"). It would be great if they resumed--any current information on couples shows with both male and female dancers?

I've worked in a low-mileage club and you'd get kicked out if put your hand on the dancer's hip. Seriously.

Ottawa used to be like that in the bad old days. Am I ever glad things have progressed substantially over the course of my "career" as a strip club aficionado! :)

"High mileage" is more of a dancer-specific thing than a club-specific thing' date=' from my experience. Ie. I didn't become a high-mileage girl when I went to Bare Fax, nor did I tone down the mileage when I went back to Nu Den. Girls change clubs all the time and their dances seem to stay the same.[/quote']

 

That's true, the Nu Den isn't all that much different from other clubs within the City of Ottawa working under the same bylaw, so it really isn't correct to call it "low mileage" in relation to the other clubs. I guess this debate lives on because we're right on the Quebec border.

as far as mileage goes i believe it is all about the connection you have with the lady . whether that connection is immediate or built over time , the more comfortable [ trust ] the lady is with you , the more enjoyable the time together will be .

I disagree. I've spent a huge amount of time over several years with one dancer at the Nuden (an extremely low-mileage club), and our connection and comfort level is very good, but mileage is extremely low and I suspect will remain so until she leaves the business.

leopard or cheetah's......probably Cheetah's if you were near the river....

A bit of a dive, but great fun anyway!

Speaking of dives, didn't mean to hijack this thread... :)

It wasn't by any chance million dollar saloon was it?

Like "Cougars" (probably not that particular name for the age implications!) or "Panthers" or something like that. I've been to Million Dollar Saloon in downtown Windsor as it was near my hotel, and well, I have very little ability to resist my favourite hobby, but I don't think I used their bank machine.

The biggest rip off in Ottawa is the ATM machines at the SD; $10 just to make a withdrawal

I went to a strip club in Windsor with an ATM that charged a service fee of 10%!

There were a few girls there from Montreal.

Several girls at Pigale have said to me that it's way easier for them to make money here because there are so many girls to compete with and they often have to give cheaper dances in Montreal.