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  9. Posted

    My two cents...

     

    - I don't think haggling an SP is respectful or acceptable -

     

    I do understand that some SP's are more than happy to negotiate their rates/services, and that is completely fine. Each person is going to act according to their own values and comfort. If an SP has clearly stated that she is open to suggestions, then by all means take her up on the offer! However, after looking at many a website, I have noticed that an overwhelming number of them have CLEARLY stated that their rates are NEVER up for negotiation whatsoever, and the numbers based on meaghanmcleod's tallies speak for themselves (thanks for putting that together, by the way!)

     

    I understand that many people (specifically hobbyists) have mentioned that negotiation is a regular part of doing business, independent contractors especially. While I agree that it is a part of business, we are not talking about some intangible object or a 'regular' service based business. We are talking about a woman's body, mind and well-being here.

     

    Many of you hobbyists have no idea what being on the SP-side of this business is like; what kind of personal, mental and emotional tolls it can take. Yes a 'normal' job can cause distress and each have their own specific consequences, but sharing your body and your Self with your clients is a whole different ballgame. I don't mean to speak for *everyone* or speak in terms of absolutes here, either.

     

    Regardless of whether a woman has a solid self-esteem and sense of worth there are still many issues we have to deal with that a hobbyist does not. And while there are certain issues that the client deals with on their side of things (I'm definitely not saying you guys don't have to deal with risks or emotional issues of your own), I think you need to take into account that whatever issues you deal with as the client, ours are magnified a hundred times over.

     

    Our rates reflect (not necessarily all of these, but many)

    - Bodily maintenance like buying expensive lingerie, clothing, makeup as well as things like getting waxed, laser hair treatments, nails done, etc so we can look and feel our best for you... all of which are expensive and/or painful; Also frequent testing and risks of UTI's, yeast infections, etc from unhygienic clients or use of toys, all of which cost money and can be very painful and uncomfortable;

    - Costs to rent out/provide a space for you to come and enjoy us;

    - Touring costs;

    - Transportation costs;

    - Taking time off so we can heal, get our minds right, not be an object/living blow up doll for a while; **I'm not saying we all feel like this, or feel it all the time - but personally, there have definitely been moments**

     

    - Dealing with a hobbyists ignorant/mindless comments from time to time (I'd like to point out that the vast majority of you gentleman are great, respectful and a pleasure to work with, but the occasional asshat does appear and can make us feel dirty, ashamed or even scared for our lives)

     

    - The risk of being hurt physically, or even extreme cases where the woman is killed or sold. Honestly, how likely is it that an SP is going to have some kind of psychotic episode and physically hurt you? How many times have you heard of that happening? Yet how many thousands of women have died, been sold, been stalked, harassed, hurt or been in any kind of pain because of a client?

     

    - We take a huge risk in our personal lives for being stigmatised, called out, exposed, losing friendships/relationships and even family members; especially us providers that show our faces in our pictures.

     

    And I would also like to point out, for the people who are going to jump in and say "Well if she struggles with issues, she shouldn't be doing this job!!!" -- Okay, yes. There are people who aren't mentally/emotionally equipped for this job. And when the cons start outweighing the pros, that's when she should either take a break or retire. However - there are many women who are most definitely able to do this who have moments where they want to quit because we deal with a LOT. ALL the time. Regardless of whether a woman is able to handle this job or not, please recognize that we have a LOT more to deal with than the average person. Not to sound high-and-mighty or anything, but we do!

     

    So no... I don't think you should negotiate a woman's rates. Ever. If you think a rate is too high, find someone who offers their services for a lower rate. End of story. We take too many risks to be lowballed or haggled with by an opportunistic person who doesn't take into account all the things we go through and worry about so that we can be here doing what we do.

     

    Sorry if I sounded harsh, accusatory, or like a total whiner! I am not trying to come off as defensive or angry here; I just personally find it extremely insulting when people make comments about my rates as if I don't provide a great experience that isn't "worth" what I ask for it, or make me feel like they are doing me a favor by paying my asked price. Please!

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  10. Posted

    Sorry I am so late replying!!! To answer your questions:

     

    as a SP what would set up the mood other then the grooming and personal cleaning? I mean like music, etc. I know this might vary from an SP to another but I wouldn't mind knowing yours

    Music is always fun to incorporate into an encounter, for me personally my "get down" music is reggae-inspired, or slow R&B, chill or downtempo type things. A lot of instrumentals!

    Example 2

     

    and would the time start as soon as the appointment starts? or as soon as she arrives? or after the convo?

    Generally it starts when it was booked for. Some SPs are lenient and the appointment starts when you walk in the door, but you should always ask beforehand.

     

    regarding the previous question as friends I meant like friendly talk's for sure you would have one with a client in the beginning but after that (for sure not going to personally), lets say a client saw you outside would you talk to the client? or would you prefer to avoid?

    It depends on who I am with or what the situation is, but generally I will smile but pretend I don't know the client. I don't know who they are with, or what their circumstances in that moment are, so I don't approach. And vice versa, I could be with a family member or friend or another client, or on a date... 99% of the time it would be an awkward situation (imo), so I pretend they are a stranger (or in the odd case I will give a big smile or a wink or something as a hello without words)

     

    BTW you look Gorgeous in your pictures

    Awww, thank you :)

  11. Posted

    Another discussion to start, because it's fun and I am interested in everyone's opinions...

     

    Ladies, Gents: What kind of hair removal do you use most often (if at all)? What do you want to try? Which do you think is best?

     

    I usually get waxed and then just shave my legs, but I am looking into StopGrow and a variety of at-home laser hair removal systems (IPLs);

    - TANDA

    - NoNo

    - TRIA

     

    Has anyone used any of these?

  14. Posted

    I had an incident where I was working for an agency (back when I first started) and they had posted my pictures on places other than CERB (not to my knowledge).

     

    A "friend" of mine who knew all of my close social circle somehow found one of those ads, and showed it to all of my close friends. Luckily, my family is still in the dark (except the few I have chosen to share with), but it caused a lot of heartache and problems in my life. I was mortified, embarrassed (not of what I do, but there are some people I had not trusted with the information), angry, hurt, confused...

     

    I am sharing this in the hopes that you will reconsider your urge to possibly say something to her family. If she trusted you with the information and confided in you, just because you know doesn't give you the right to go around sharing her personal stuff - she confided in you, honor that commitment. I may be coming across a little harsh, and if I am, I apologize, but I am trying to be as blunt as possible. Coming from the other side of the experience, believe me, it is unpleasant and causes a lot of emotional pain when someone goes behind your back and tells your personal shit to people. It's not your secret to tell. Even if you think you are doing the right thing, there may be consequences for her that you don't even realize.

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  15. Posted

    First of all, welcome to CERB!

     

    I don't know who to pick, and when,

    Do your research! Look up some Recommendations, check out girls' websites, PM them beforehand, look in the Ads section... there is a wealth of knowledge available to you to find the right person.

     

    I prefer out calls into my private apartment but I'm not so much familiar with the whole process

    There are many SPs who offer outcalls to apartments, but keep in mind if you are a new client some SPs may not be comfortable with this at first. Everyone is different, though, so again, talk it out!

     

    What would she expect before/once she gets there?

    This has been covered a lot, in many threads on this board. Some main points:

    Make Sure You Are CLEAN - Shower, brush your teeth, make sure your nails are trimmed, scrub/trim your junk, guzzle some mouthwash. Etc.

     

    BE POLITE - treat it like a date. Nice clients make for happy SPs, and happy SPs are good to their clients.

     

    PAY UPFRONT - offer the lady your envelope as soon as she walks in the door, or leave it on a table in front of her. Don't be offended if she counts it in front of you.

     

    DO NOT SHORTCHANGE - Duh.

     

    Do you give the donation before or after the service?

    Upfront. Always upfront.

     

    How do I know that she likes her job before booking an appointment?

    This is something you can never *really* know, but assume she does. You should know if you've spoken to her beforehand. And if not, you can always ask!

     

    Do you ever become friends with a SP?

    From my own experience, I can tell you personally I tend to develop a friendship with my clients, but I don't mix business and pleasure. My personal life is personal, and I don't see or date anyone who is or has been a client. Period.

     

    Is it ok to ask for ID before getting into something? because I heard a lot of stories about SP Reporting abuse against their clients (with all do respect to all the SP on the website)

    I would never show my ID to a client. I refuse outright to give my personal information, including my real name/last name, to anyone. I won't get into that can of worms, but first of all it would be rude and impolite to ask for, and second it's an invasion of the lady's privacy.

     

    I'm not that experienced so is there a lady that is specialized with non-experienced men?

    Most ladies have a knack for getting past your jitters - let her know in advance that you are inexperienced so she knows to take the lead.

     

    Is it safe to go down on an SP or make out?

    How do you know it's ever really "safe"? Even if you are in a monogamous relationship, you never *really* know what's happening behind closed doors. Take percautions, use protection, get tested. Hell, get tested before and after if it will make you feel better.

     

    And I'm the type of guy that likes to satisfy, so would it be easy to satisfy an SP?

    Again, you can never know that. Every person is different, every encounter is different, the chemistry between people is different. I know as a woman, some days are easier to cum than others, I get off with some people and not with others, some days honestly it's just too much work and I don't feel like it. That's something you can never guarantee.

     

    Hope that helps!

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  19. Posted · Edited by EvaAdore
    Repetitive phrases like "kind of" x.x

    Hey you, this is a great question! There are lots of things you could talk about that aren't just about menial every day things...

     

    - What are your dreams, goals

    - What have you always wanted to do/try/see but haven't had the chance to yet and why

    - Do you have any pets? Does she? Talk about them!

    - Have you travelled? Where? For how long? Where has she been? Did she like it? Etc

    - You like to eat, right? I bet she likes to eat, too. Where are your favorite food places? Meals? Desserts? Foods to use during sex? After sex? Before sex?

    - Look around the room... notice unusual/interesting personal items or art and ask about them

    - Comment on what she is wearing; where did she get it? Why did she pick it? Tell her she looks amazing in it and why! Be detailed. All women loved to be noticed for something other than the obvious.

    - Is she wearing jewelry? Ask her details about it!

    - Do you have any tattoos? Does she? Talk about them - people loooove talking about their tattoos.

     

    My best advice would be to read or lookup some e/books about conversation and small talk. It just takes practice and creativity to think up questions or comments about your immediate environment or company. You could always just flat out tell her that you aren't great at making conversation and let her steer your dialogue. There's nothing wrong with a bit of sexy silence, too!

     

    Also, you may want to kind of create cliff-hanger conversations via PM here on CERB first, so that way you can pick up the conversation or reference it while you are talking. Bring up or talk about a wide variety of topics and you can grab at them later on while you are in person.

     

    Hope this helps sweety :)

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  21. Posted

    Wow I definitely didn't mean for this to turn into a shit-slinging contest... Thanks for completely hijacking this thread and turning it into something it was never meant to be, PurpleHaze. This is now a game of pigeon chess, and honey, you're the pigeon.

     

    "Debating you is like playing chess with a pigeon - it knocks over the pieces, defecates on the board, and then struts around like it's victorious."

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  25. Posted

    People always used to comment on my Eastern Euro looks, so I looked for an Eastern Euro name that sounded like something I would actually change my name to. I figured if I did it that way, it would feel "natural" (and it does). Eva was the one I felt most drawn to, and made me feel the prettiest.

     

    The "Adore" part came from the song Ava Adore, which got stuck in my head as I was looking for names (since I chose Eva, which I pronounce EEE-va, not AY-va). I thought it was funny and ironic, so I kept it.

     

    I recently added the "Bancroft" since I love the Lara Croft video games and character. Angelina Jolie is one of my favorite actresses, and I loved her in the Tomb Raider movies as Lara. It also makes me feel regal and stately, and the meaning of the name is "on a high hill overlooking a large meadow" according to the website I found it on.

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