MsManda

Uhm.. Peanut gallery here 🙋 Did the op mention that the provider in question asked for a deposit or cancellation fee, or was this person merely posing a hypothetical question about cancellations in general? 👀

I think it should be left, for the post history, for both sps and clients, for future reference

Youre just insulting, at this point Most established sps (with pro photos) HAVE indeed done this 🙄

The best clients screen and follow the booking practices of their chosen provider. It's that simple This might weed out some nice people, but it's also weeded out so much bs for me personally, I have no regrets I'm still busy enough to be able to pick and choose from the pool of screened and verified guests who contact me, and decide who I want to see or not, for whatever arbitrary reason I choose I get less abuse, blackmail, threats, drama, people showing up without appts, etc, because of this. You don't have to like it, but it does protect us, in many ways You don't have to believe what we tell you, and we don't have to book anyone that makes us uncomfortable, for any reason, screening or not. Idk why that's so hard to grasp

They weren't what ifs.. They happened, or we wouldn't have learned to implement more screening. Hell, I've even been on a local true crime podcast describing what happens to us, if you want a local perspective that I don't have to type out for you 🙄 You're wasting a lot of words to miss the point, Robert

Try asking for that, like some people ask for the HE at a random registered massage therapist, and find out, and report back 😈

Clearly because we're not supposed to let you peek behind the magic curtain, but at risk of spoiling the fantasy, we have reasons for our methods and I shouldn't have had to spell it out for you 🙄 I already told you that people stalk us, but the spammy behaviour made you finally get the picture? Ugh It actually weeds out more bs than you'd think With every restriction that you think is silly, there is a clear reason why it's been accepted as standard by independent sps. I used to book fake names and no phone numbers, but they couldn't all be trusted and it ruined it for everyone. Statistically, people just fuck around less if you know who they are irl. That's well studied and documented across many situations, not just sw. In our situation, fucking around risks our health, security, and safety, so we just can't tolerate that

We do not agree I'm not building you a deck. Or sucking your dick, for that matter No matter how you twist my words 😂 Thank youuuu, screening 🙏

It's not 99% though, or we wouldn't need to screen 🙄 Le sigh

The hoops were the same til someeee people decided they could just make 9272 new email addresses /phone numbers/new identities and do unsavory shit The ID verification became necessary because someeee people couldn't be trusted,. And while we can also get blackmailed etc like you, we also risk death, soooo It's not like this isn't well documented with a simple Google search. Some sps now require IDs And people try to mess with that, so yeah, maybe more changes have to come in the future lol that's your choice though Spread that around maybe, if you don't like how things are/where they might go?

While still expecting us to want to show up and smile and suck their dick 😂 Like I love what I do but I wouldn't work any job under such conditions

Coming from the loudest fear mongerer here 🙄 It IS about power, you're completely right.. And also completely wrong If we reveal ALL of our safety practices and the why, on a public forum, y'all will find ways around them and further risk our lives, homes, and general safety 🙄 We do need to keep some mystical magic about us, for our own safety lol This used to be commonly understood, back when lyla was cerb It's been elaborated here enough that any newb to the forum should get the idea, but if you're still lost, look up any ture crime doc on murdered sps, and see why we screen, if you don't want to believe our lived experiences while we're ALIVE to tell them 🙄 If you can't comprehend why women meeting strange men alone for naked endeavours might want those men to not be anonymous, then this clearly isn't the hobby for you 🤷

You're actually trying to compare the dynamics of maybe clients taking advantage of new sps naivety, to established providers who accept prepayment? Because I don't know of anyone demanding full payment up front from strangers who haven't no showed 👀 It's not the same at all, and you know this You could just choose not to book those providers lol idk why this is so hard for you to understand

I mean.. We don't have to ask for money up front lol Many great clients love to prepay, and you never hear of us stealing their prepayments 👀 You're trying to pull a power play in a place where the providers are mostly verified This rant might be more suited for the craigslist crowd

Why argue with Sp's, you ask? Its a power play, and always has been I started out new and naive, and jumped through the hoops, so I can attest that the ones who requested the most of me, usually don't book, or are extremely demanding clients because they think we don't know what's unsavory behaviour yet. I did do the ridiculous plz pick me verify pics with the dates, or two fingers up, and all it did was waste my time, gain me stalkers or issues, and have more people asking for more pics because some people here like to gossip about us behind the scenes and now everyone knew that I fell for the pic collecting scam 😂 I even sent face pics.. It's been more than a decade - that was clearly unnecessary It was about power, and seeing how how we'll allow our boundaries to be pushed, before meeting, if they ever even booked. This is why this behaviour will always be met with offense from the veteran sps here. We know where this goes and no ty

We're actually looking for an assurance that you won't try to stalk, assault, or try to kill us. Most of us have experienced somethinggg that's made us need to add more screening protocols 🙄 It's not just because it's just great for business to reduce accessibility to us lmao Studies for decades have shown that this simple thing saves lives But go on, booking randos from LL who don't know to screen yet, and preaching on here like the risks with those sps are the norm among the entire industry You can control your blackmail risks by not seeing unverified providers with no established online presence. Just like we control ours by not putting ourselves in (literally THE MOST) vulnerable positions with unscreened men. AND if I hear one more thing about that oneeee provider who was scammy 🙄😂 Most of us sps have had more than one absolutely horrible experience as well. Y'all know not to book her, the same way we've learned how to screen out some of the bs that we don't want to deal with Beating a dead horse here, to the same 5 people every time

Get a burner phone 😁

Does our pussy regenerate overnight or something? 😂 Maybe our first shower of the day somehow counts more than any others? Y'all are too much on here sometimes lol Just book a reputable provider

The more acronyms in my ad, the more problems I receive.. It doesn't actually weed anything out for us; it seems to encourage even moreeee lengthy, explicit messages that go nowhere - wasting even more of my time. 😭 And that's without me posting a phone number lol Just ask for what you want, if it's that important to you ❤️ We work in customer service, we don't mind answering things that aren't explained in our ads or on our sites. You wouldn't believe - American clients usually don't even ask for explicit acts, nary an acronym in sight, and we still somehow are able to do the things and have a great time 👀 My offerings aren't set in stone (ymmv for hygiene etc ofc) and it's unrealistic to list all of my offerings in an ad, but still make it sound like an ad, unlike a list. They only give us so many characters lol we need some room for other info, and personalitaaay 😂

We value our privacy and safety above all, so sharing with people we know well and can trust, makes more sense than sharing with just anyone As some of you know, I rented out my old Incall for many years - loved the experience 🥰 That location had a number of unique factors that made that possible though. Post covid, renting isn't as easy or hassle free, and discretion just isn't as valued as it was before.. 👀 The risks are higher now for us, without adding in even more people as variables/responsibilities. I've even seen clauses in leases worded basically just for us - to evict us, then sue, even if we don't bring legal trouble As for keeping other sps away from our clients; 🤔 the clients will 99% of the time book before they know where we are/who's space we're in lol it makes little to no difference (in my experience) if we're sharing a space.. The guys who know, will know, and the others really have no need to know who's space it is /who else works there, unless that's community info My clients could always just book another provider outside of my location too lol most of us don't care or think about any of that.. We don't own clients, rather, many of us like to share 😈

Halifax is tough in general.. I think every sp here (even local) has gone through the hazing/initiation of daring to be a new face in town

This is exactly why discussing rates never used to be permitted here But alas.. There are no rules to this forum anymore 🙄

Everyone jumped ship with Lydia lol And the forum went wild 😂

But we're not selling leggings that won't rip.. We're not out here touting our technical fabrics lmao We're selling personalized experiences, with more variables than if someone selected the right fit of leggings for their size/body type. 👀 You can show up with terrible hygiene to buy leggings and still be served a fabulous pair of leggings lol Not so much with sp experiences though

The problem isn't that y'all discuss us.. It's the tone used when (some of) you do 🙄 and that's just what we can see publicly, don't get me started on the DMs here Usage on this forum has died down to what it has, and I'm sure you have noticed that providers aren't as active in the lyla community/discussions as they used to be.. Now it's just a boys club here, and the tone has changed as such This used to be a place of respect for sps, and now its losing that vibe for more of an sp411 feel.. How's that forum doing, btw? By all means, share your opinions, but do know that we use these threads for screening as well as you do 😈