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Use logic... I clearly meant that they (The strippers) found that those of that particular demographic (black) found within their place of employment (a strip club) generally purchased their services (private dances) as an excuse to try to rope them in to a managed arrangement (pimping). Want your own opinion? Head to Pigales or Barefax tonight and hang around the bar and listen to the conversations around you. Its hilarious how obvious they are at times.

Dont know about SPs, but I know quite a few strippers that refuse to see black customers because they generally hang out in strip clubs with no purpose other than finding girls they can manage. 3 of the strippers that told me this are jamaican...

I see you've discovered Cafe Atlantis! Its still somewhat of a strip club though. Some girls offer dances if you look hard enough.

Thats a bit jaded. They dont all just text and stay in touch purely for money. Going for dinner with one tomorrow that I barely ever see as a customer, and another just called to confirm plans for friday night even though she's not planning to work for a while. They're social people by nature.

Cant go wrong with Maya in the daytime.

This topic brings an anecdote to mind from yesterday. The night before I get a text saying she's driving in to town. Head to the club in the early in the afternoon. Her car is there. Head in, place is dead but I dont see her so I sit down to wait and sip a beer. An hour goes by during which every single girl in the club (literally, all of them) approach me. I wanted a sign that said "waiting for someone". Finally she comes out of the dressing room, goes to the dj booth, then stands around scanning the room, looking directly at me 3 times. I'm about to stand up and go see her when she suddenly heads straight back in to the dressing room. I'm initially confused, then my phone beeps. I look down and see a text from her: Hi I'm here! Moral of the story? You're doing something wrong if random girls arent approaching you, and if a specific one doesnt, it doesnt necessarely mean she is ignoring you :p

And when an SP does spend a ton of time off the clock with you and refuses to see you as a client? When you get to share the good and the bad with her? When you regularly see the side of her that is not "on", and the feelings are still there? What then?

I simply told myself I was happy with 1 person before I met the other and could be again once I moved on... lets just say lying to yourself eventually catches up to you, and the situation at home is far from perfect. A pissed off wife because I bailed out a stripper who wont see me because I have a wife. Life is messed up sometimes.

The club doesn't, so they dont care about volume upstairs beyond their daily 50$.

Its tragic because in this case I found out the feelings were mutual hours before my wedding. She had known how I felt for a long time and had made it clear she wasnt interested in anything as long as she danced, and I was ok with that. Now she won't see me as a customer. We go for meals out, movies, chat on the phone occasionally, but she doesnt even want me in the club when she is working. Tragic because I met the perfect girl at the wrong time in both our lives.

One way feelings are easiest to deal with. Keep a level head, tell yourself that its great to have this person in your life, and that she is available when you need that connection, all for an agreed upon price, no need to complicate matters. Not so different from a traditional relationship where your money provides a house, a car, food and other necessities. I think its worse when the feelings are reciprocated. Walking in to a strip club 12 hours before my wedding to see her one last time, prepared mentally to say goodbye, and hearing her say that she loves me and wished she had more time to figure it out, then start to cry, that shattered my neatly separated hobbyist existence. Be thankful your situation was one sided.

There shouldnt be any feeling of guilt over seeing girls in the club other than a favorite, in my opinion. I have a favorite (dont we all?) and I think part of the initial appeal was that she introduced me to several of her friends and suggested I take them for dances. Afterwards, talking on the phone with her about how the dances were just seemed so incredibly arousing. If one starts acting jealous, talk to her and set ground rules.

Word has it that starting March 1st the girls will have to wear dresses on the floor. That should make for an interesting vibe.

Conversation is super important to me with the ladies at the club, whether at the table or in the CR. I've stopped going for dances, due to a bevy of reasons, but still drop in to the club to see old regulars and share a drink every so often. I get them food and drinks, and initially felt bad because in my mind I was wasting their time. Then I went in one night wanting dances, and they all refused. "No, you said you were stopping after your wedding. Sit and chat with us." Best of both worlds, though I miss dances with some of them.

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Sounds like Sandra and Melsomething (melissa? Melanie?)

Didnt get lucky (wasnt trying to) but did take a dancer there for a fun relaxing day. The steam room might have possibilities if so inclined.

I definitely agree. For me, in a way writing a review after a great session fills that void. Also have a friend, a stripper of all things, with whom I've been able to discuss the hobby in the past. As she'd seen SPs in the past with an SO, she wasnt completely repulsed by the topic as most would be.

Bella is there from Barbs, and she is definitely a treat. Was just there to have some drinks with one of the girls, and when she saw Bella caught my attention she said "She's hot, go try her out." Glad I did.

Petite Asian escort with C naturals may be a bit hard to find. I can say that of those currently in town, Sara, Camille and Vicky are not B&S and offer great service.

Guessing someone misunderstood the meaning of CR.

Is that the one always dressed in white? If so, definitely steamy during her dances. Worth trying.

The whole mentality that if a Provider has or doesnt have a review here is a sign of good or bad service is flawed. First, everyone has off days. If the provider had a good day and received a positive review here, but then 10 bad days and provided bad service to clients who saw her because of the positive review with no rebutals here, how is that fair to the clients on the 10 bad days? They cant reply to the glowing review that remains posted and pulls in unfortunates daily. Also, the whole system here encourages shilling. Post a shill review saying you're fantastic, no one can reply stating the contrary. Would you use a tripadvisor equivalent where only positive reviews are allowed to pick a carribean resort?

I think it comes down to honesty. If I go to a fancy restaurant and order the 90$ kobe steak touted by their chef as being the culinary experience of a lifetime and I am served an overcooked minute steak, you can bet a scathing review on Yelp is forthcoming. If I go to a lowkey diner and order the 8$ late night chef's special and get served the same steak, it might get a positive review. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, we all have our preferences and that shouldnt be judged. But sadly, I've yet to read an ad stating "come enjoy my triple chin and play with my overlapping fat rolls while my toothless gums bring you to extacy and my facial acne squirts its delicious pus into your mouth as you lick my jaw." Someone may be into that out there, but if you portray yourself as a runway model in your ad and thats what the client ends up getting for his hard earned money, the reviews should reflect that.

Both sides of the discussion are represented well, and I have to say that I also no longer use this board for reviews because the rules keep them overly positive. I agree that providers are people too, but like any job offering poor service, or misrepresenting yourself should carry consequences. By most standards this industry pays handsomely; a girl fulfilling your sexual fantasies is paid more than a doctor saving lives, or 8 times what a police officer gets for risking his life keeping us all safe. If a client feels cheated or unfulfilled in any way, a negative review can be justified. I also cant help but point out that 95% of the OPs reviews on either board are about 100 pound submissive young asian girls with perfect skin.