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You're talking about rates. I stayed on topic 😉

Gaslighting, deflection, ego stroking, power games… yawn. Textbook. It’s none of your business to ask if a woman is “worth” her rate. End of story. I don’t care how offended you are, my words weren’t meant to coddle you. If you’re offended that I support women’s rights and autonomy, that’s entirely on you. You were never my clientele to begin with. I’m uninterested and bored about your income. I’ve said what I needed to say, and I’m not entertaining it. You’ve exposed yourself clearly as a client, my job here is done.

Do you know what budgeting means? Just because someone has money doesn’t mean they want to fit a provider into their budget. I said budget, not income. There’s a difference. If you wish to discuss your income with everyone, you’re more than welcome to open a new thread bragging about your riches. To be honest, I’m uninterested and won’t be participating.

Let me put it simply: Let’s say you usually book providers around $300. Then you come across someone who’s your exact type, but she charges $500. If she’s within your budget, you either book her or you don’t, no questions, no debate. That’s her rate. End of story. You might end up having the best experience of your life. Or maybe your favorite provider ends up being someone at $250. That’s how personal preference works, not price tags. But the issue is when people start complaining, dissecting, and comparing groups of women like we’re two different models of fleshlight. That’s not curiosity, that’s dehumanizing. We’re not toys. We’re human beings. You either book or move on. It really is that simple. If you don’t want to “risk” spending more on someone at a higher rate, then don’t. No one’s forcing you. But someone else is booking her, and they’re not turning it into a debate.

Trust me, we don’t care about your income. We care about respect and proper bookings. Your budget is the last thing on our minds… actually, it’s not on our minds at all. 😉

First of all, I appreciate your ability to communicate respectfully without getting emotional, that’s rare and valuable in these discussions. That said, I want to clarify something: I never said that clients who book within their budget are dehumanizing, nor did I say that providers who charge less are “dragging down” others. What I have said, and I’ve repeated this multiple times now, is that asking whether providers who charge more are “worth it” is disrespectful and dehumanizing. That specific framing reduces a human being to a price tag and treats her work, boundaries, and self-worth as something for strangers to publicly dissect. That’s the issue. I’ve also acknowledged, repeatedly, that two providers at different price points may offer the same type of service on paper, but they are still different people. And because we are not robots or blowup dolls, the experience will be different. Our rates are based on many things beyond just the act itself, it's energy, time, boundaries, style, lifestyle, demand, and personal comfort. I fully support every provider’s right to charge what aligns with her goals, whether that’s a lower or higher rate. And yes, every client also has the autonomy to choose services within their budget. But what they don’t have is the right to pick apart women they’re not even planning to book, just because those women don’t fit their budget. You said it “feels like we can’t talk about rates.” Well… that’s kind of the point. Rates are personal and business decisions made by each provider for herself. It’s not open for public debate or cost-benefit analysis, especially by those who were never going to book her anyway. It’s her time, her energy, her sensuality, her boundaries... her. If someone doesn’t understand that or thinks he’s entitled to question her pricing like he’s shopping on Amazon, then that’s not a respectful discussion about value, that’s objectification, plain and simple. If a client can’t afford a higher rate or doesn’t personally see the value, he is always free to book within his budget. But that should never turn into a debate about the worth of women who were never on his radar to begin with, because someone else is booking her. And respecting that is the bare minimum.

A client is absolutely within his right to choose how he spends his money. It’s his personal choice to seek out a service that fits his budget. But it’s also his responsibility to do proper research, to ensure his safety and to avoid being disappointed or scammed. That means reading her website, checking her reviews, browsing her social media. all of which give a clear picture of her personality, style, and the kind of experience she offers. The issue with this thread, however, is that it lumps together a group of women who choose to charge more, and compares them to a group who charge less. That approach helps no one. It doesn't guide clients, it dehumanizes women. Each provider decides for herself what to charge. And yes, two different women might offer similar services at different rates, but they are still two different people, not interchangeable blow-up dolls. Your experience with one will naturally differ from another. So asking “why does she charge more?” has one answer: because she can. Book within your means and respect our autonomy. Stop questioning our worth. It’s that simple.

I actually have an entire thread already posted that explains how to properly screen a provider before booking her. Nowhere have I said to blindly book someone whose ad seems too good to be true. At some point, clients need to take responsibility for their own choices and safety. I’ve also said I’m not against reviews, as long as they’re done tastefully, respectfully, and not written like porn scripts. Some providers prefer a no-review policy, and that should be respected too. But there are plenty of ways to screen someone before seeing them. Here’s the link: https://www.lyla.ch/topic/214084-how-to-screen-an-indépendant/ The issue I raised is not about reviews. It’s about the disrespect of asking whether a woman is "worth it" just because she charges more or calls herself elite. This thread wasn’t a review of one person. It was a collective complaint targeting women who charge higher rates, an entire group of professionals being questioned for valuing themselves. As I said before: if you want to know if someone is "worth it," book her. Then leave a classy, respectful review. But dragging women publicly because their rates don’t match your expectations? That’s not feedback, it’s entitlement.

No one’s forcing you to read or comment, yet here you are, again. Funny how you say I’m missing the point, when the entire thread was about questioning whether a woman is ‘worth it’ if she charges more or calls herself elite. That’s what I addressed. Y’all are the ones who made it about me. If you want to stay on topic, great, do that. But stop projecting and trying to shift the narrative just because I won’t let the disrespect slide. And let’s be clear, I’m not here to change anyone’s mind. I already know some of you won’t get it. I’m here to help you expose yourselves. This thread has over 8,000 views and a lot of them are from providers. Trust me, I’m not wasting my time, I’m doing this community a favor. So please, continue. You’re doing a fantastic job of showing everyone exactly what kind of men we’re dealing with.

That's totally fine! If a woman standing her ground and supporting women with respect offends you, then I'm clearly not for you. And gladly, if other hobbyists on here can’t handle that either, I’m not for them, too. But do remember, many real men love a woman with a backbone and care for her community. If you think a woman calmly defending her position is 'arguing,' maybe it’s time to ask why my tone bothers you more than the disrespect I’m responding to. I speak up not to please everyone, but because I care. If that makes me ‘too vocal’ for some, I’m okay with that. Swer forums need to set the bar for respect higher, and I’ll always be on the side that pushes it upward. Funny how degrading women gets a pass around here… but the moment one stands up for herself, that’s what people find offensive. Priorities say a lot.

This is my job. I have all day, every day, to be on forums. If you're willing to show your true colors, I'll gladly help you expose them. I honestly don’t care if you’re not reading as a client because it was never meant for you.

How about you leave since you can't follow the thread. I am on topic.

Calling a respectful discussion about women’s value and autonomy ‘drivel’ just proves why it needed to happen. I stood up for respect, if that makes some people uncomfortable, so be it. I’ve said what I had to say.

As if I was supposed to stay quiet while someone makes a whole thread questioning whether a woman is “worth it” because she charges more or calls herself elite? She could call herself a goddess, a queen, a unicorn, and charge $100K if she wants. Who TF are we to tell her she’s not “worth” that? It’s her body. Her time. Her brand. Her rules. No one’s forcing anyone to book her. But the moment you start publicly debating if her rate is “justified” just because you personally wouldn’t pay it, that’s not a discussion. That’s entitlement, ego, and internalized misogyny. This isn’t about arguing. This is about defending the basic right every woman has to set her value without being picked apart like she’s on sale. If that makes some of you uncomfortable, good. That means it needed to be said.

I will never be told to stay quiet when it comes to respect for women in this industry. I will always speak up when someone degrades us, because our safety, dignity, and autonomy are non-negotiable. This isn’t about “arguing.” This is about calling out behavior that puts women down and encourages others to do the same. If that makes people uncomfortable, good. It means the conversation is needed. Open your eyes to the bigger picture.

Bathurst book now or i will cancel and extend campbellton instead! Campbellton now-14 Bathurst 14-15 Moncton 15-17 Fredericton 17-21

You’ve now shifted the conversation from rates and value to tax IDs and terminology. Not because you’re making a point, but because you’re grasping for control after your own words betrayed your mindset. For the record, “service model” vs. “business model” is a distinction without a difference in this context. Anything that involves compensation for time, energy, and skill is a business, whether independent or agency-supported. Sex work doesn’t lose legitimacy because it’s often labeled as a “service.” It still involves boundaries, strategy, marketing, client relations, and yes, business decisions. But none of this sidesteps what’s been at the center of this the entire time. You exposed how you truly view providers. Reduced a human being to a transactional product, and everything since then has been an attempt to backpedal and reframe. You’re not asking for clarity. You’re dodging accountability. You don’t need a GST number to respect someone’s boundaries. And you certainly don’t need to redefine vocabulary to justify a post that, at its core, questioned whether women are “worth it” for charging more. Each response you’ve posted has only confirmed what was obvious from the start.

This isn’t Walmart. The customer isn’t always right. Obviously it’s a business, anything generating revenue and paying taxes operates under a business model. That doesn’t mean you get to treat people like products or assume every experience should be “worth it” by your standards. Common sense really isn’t that common, clearly.

I’ve already explained it clearly. I’m not going to repeat myself for the fourth time. Stop saying I’m putting words in your mouth when everyone here can literally read what you wrote. That tactic doesn’t work. At this point, it’s not a lack of explanation, it’s a lack of understanding. I can explain it to you, but I can’t make you understand it. And I’m not going to waste more energy trying. You’ve told on yourself, and that’s on you for exposing yourself publicly. “I’m paying for a service, not you” tells me everything I need to know. That one sentence proves exactly the point I’ve been making this entire time. You don’t see the provider as a person offering an experience. You see her as a product you pay for, which is exactly why your question came across as dehumanizing from the start. You can say you “respect women’s choices” all you want, but the language you keep using contradicts that completely.

You're still contradicting yourself, you’re literally asking, “Why pay the elite rate instead of the regular rate?” That’s the woman’s choice. No one is being shackled or forced into a category. She decides what to charge, and that’s it. What you’re implying is: why pay more if you can get the same for less? And yes, that is dehumanizing. These are not factory-line products. Each woman has her own energy, her own personality, her own preferences. You’re not going to have chemistry with every single person, and you’re certainly not going to get the same experience with every provider, even if they offer a similar service label. Two providers may both offer GFE, but one might be soft-spoken and nurturing, while another is bold and flirty. That difference alone can completely change the experience, because the service is rendered by a human being, not a template. And no, you're not experiencing the service “through the eyes of hobbyists.” You’re experiencing your own booking, with your own expectations, preferences, and connection. Asking hobbyists if someone is “worth it” based on a label makes zero sense, because chemistry, connection, and enjoyment are all subjective. You want to know if she is worth it to you? Book her. That’s how this works. You asked, “Why are they classified into two categories?” again, that’s their choice. Some ladies charge more because they want exclusivity, fewer clients, and longer dates. Others may charge less and prefer shorter dates or more volume. Both are valid. That’s a business model, not a value judgment. Same with agencies, some women prefer to manage everything themselves, others would rather let someone else handle screening, marketing, and logistics so they can focus on their clients. It’s a personal business decision. And finally, stop crying about your “right to ask questions.” You do have that right. And I have every right to challenge what you're saying if I believe it's rooted in a problematic mindset. You don’t get to post on a public forum and then get upset when someone disagrees with you. That’s how discussions work. I don’t need to work for an agency to have an opinion when men start talking about whether women who charge more are “worth it.” You either book her, experience what she offers, and leave a review, or don’t book and move on. But constantly questioning why someone charges more, or calling the “elite” label into doubt like it’s a scam, is not curiosity, it’s entitlement. If it’s not for you, move on. Simple.

You're contradicting yourself. You literally asked if it’s “worth it” to book an elite provider when “all YFL girls are equally beautiful and offer the same service.” That is questioning a woman's worth, whether you want to admit it or not. I didn’t redirect the topic, I quoted your own words. Just because these women work under the same agency doesn’t mean they’re clones. They’re all human, each with their own personality, energy, boundaries, and vibe. By questioning the idea that they’re unique, you're basically telling on yourself, you’re viewing them as interchangeable objects instead of individuals. You need to realize it’s a personal choice how someone advertises herself, her photos, her rates, her availability, and how she defines her experience. No one owes you a breakdown or justification. Rates are based on what she feels her time, energy, and presence are worth, not what you think they “should” be based on other women in the same agency. The only way to know if it’s “worth it” to you is to book and experience what she uniquely offers. As a client, you're not just paying for a standard service, you’re paying for an experience with a real human being. If it’s not in your budget, that’s totally fine, but move on respectfully without reducing women to categories and price points to make sense of what you don’t understand.