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I saw her as well, I guess ymmv on the restrictions because I got the full YFL menu and then some (without even having to ask for any of it). Great energy and fantastic body, definitely one of the best girls on YFL's roster imo.

10 minutes ago, Lemmy Caution said:

Can confirm this is NOT the same young, hot SP as last time. Much older and not terribly attractive. 

Very disappointed.

Thanks for the heads up.

Last night she was advertising in Halifax, Saint Johns and I think Moncton at the same time. Using pics from 2020 as well.

14 minutes ago, harboursmoke said:

Wait, those ads were real ?

It's an Asian (even though the girls in the pics are white) bait and switch, with the girl available changing regularly. But it is a real provider yes, usually an Asian from elsewhere in the country here for a few days.

Don't expect to see the same girl someone on here mentioned unless you see them immediately after. Based on my experience I think every time the number changes it's a new girl. They keep the same fake pics and name up regardless of who it is.

25 minutes ago, cutescott69 said:

Be aware that Seeking Arrangements sends out fake messages even from real profiles.  The real ladies don't even know that a message has been sent from their profile.  I caught them doing it to me three times (from ladies I knew and checked with) and called them out... they actually refunded me three months of fees to try and shut me up about it.  So don't assume anyone who replies or messages you is for real... it's likely the site sending fake messages to make yiou buy more credits to read them.

It's important to note that the SB sites probably have just as many fakes as leolist does, the difference being that on leolist you aren't getting charged every time you interact with a profile. So while I would agree that you get better service with a SB over a SP it is a lot more effort, you are on your own (no intel from other people) and you can easily spend a lot of money and not even find anything.

56 minutes ago, AdamSandler said:

Genuine question but does verified on LL actually mean anything anymore? I see LOTS of verified pictures and not to stereotype but I see ads for Asian women with verified photos and I'm 99% sure they are bait and switch. I'm not sure the process to get verified on LL but I certainly don't always trust what I see. Would love to hear if you have any insight into this!

I once saw a verified pic on LL where the text on the piece of paper they were holding was running off the side and onto her arm. I suppose it reduces the risk of a scam slightly because they have to take 2 minutes to edit the sign into a pic, so that'll filter out the most laziest. I wouldn't trust it at all, plenty of reported scams/bait and switch on verified profiles. Even with the legit girls always check the dates on the sign because a lot of them are using pics that are several years old. You are much better off doing a reverse image search and seeing where else the pics are, but even that is not perfect. Search the number too a lot of them are too lazy to change it.

It's a scam, google "Dove 6990 escort" to learn more. Bait and switch but threatens to call the cops if you try to leave.

I would check those reviews again if I were you.

Telegram is probably not going to end well for you, most girls in this area advertise on leolist. There are tons of scams on there so do your research, anyone who doesn't have lots of positive feedback online is not worth the risk unless you're experienced.

1 hour ago, AdamSandler said:

Oh it's for sure all my fault. I think it's the front desk calling for sure that messed things up the most for me. And if she felt uncomfortable already it likely wouldn't have been a great session for either of us. I'd rather everyone feel comfortable.

Any tips for acting confident going in to the hotel? I had NO idea where the elevators were so it's hard to be confident when you have to walk in the door, pause, look around, then find where to go lol

Stop and brush your feet off on the mat inside and while you do that scan for where the elevators are.

This same girl is being advertised in Montreal right now from the same agency (Asian Desire). They have a bad reputation in Montreal if you look them up. Nothing dangerous but typical Asian bait and switch bullshit.

1 hour ago, AdamSandler said:

I guess another piece to the nordic model is that if it's legal to sell then providers have some form of support and protection. Let's say someone sees a provider and assaults them. The provider then has the ability to go to the police and report the assault without risk to themselves. 

Of course this same model also harms the buyer as I've heard of some people meeting and getting beaten and robbed (the purchaser in this case) and they of course have no recourse because they were technically doing something illegal.

So I see the "protecting the providers" piece of it for sure but it's still weird. 

Yep exactly, it's a convoluted strategy to make it somewhat safer for providers while still keeping it illegal for some reason. As you pointed out this creates an opening for  the providers to scam people with little concern for consequences. Obviously most of the scams aren't even from legit providers but you get what I mean. Like most government policies this wasn't thought through well at all, isn't even being enforced properly (no effort to crack down on buyers) and was probably more about having an excuse to spend money on "resources" and "education" than actually change the situation.

39 minutes ago, AdamSandler said:

Maybe I'm naive but how does that even work? It's legal in Canada for an escort (or other provider) to sell their services but it is illegal to buy those services from my understanding? Seems like Canada is confused. If it's legal to sell it should be legal to buy. I was going to say "make up your mind" but I guess that could then go in the wrong direction and become illegal both ways which would then likely cause more stings and issues for both the providers and purchasers...

It's called the nordic model, and you are right to be confused because it makes zero sense. The theory is that suppliers are all victims and therefore it's wrong to criminalize them, so instead they exclusively target the demand side. If they take away all the demand, then it's no longer profitable to be a provider. They also provide "resources" to help providers leave the industry and "awareness and education campaigns for the public". I don't know what the hell that means beyond tax payer money giving some government consultant a cushy six-figure job.

So that's the theory, but in practice it would be quite the undertaking to limit the demand to that extent. Based on what's been discussed in this thread it's clear they aren't even attempting to do this. Obviously if your goal is to end the industry you need to target both supply and demand (aggressively), and if you don't want to end the industry you should legalize both supply and demand (while probably adding some kind of regulations).

The reviews she posted pics of are real and the number matches, I think she is real.

11 hours ago, main street said:

is it possible that a real escort actually turn and work for the police, like an informant? just asking

In other countries where both sides of the transaction are illegal that happens, but here It's legal for escorts to sell services so there's not really a way for the cops to leverage them. I suppose its possible if they were caught on some unrelated charge but that seems like a stretch. As has been mentioned there's virtually no history of stings around here, you should be far more concerned about being scammed/robbed by a provider than being caught up a sting.

She's been posting on leolist maybe 1 or 2 days a week, need to be lucky to catch her when she's working.

Watch out:

Link connects to her current ad it's definitely her.

A few people here:

https://www.lyla.ch/topic/207967-kc-ll-5622/

37 minutes ago, Gokennygo said:

With these travelling girls, obviously they stay in hotels , anyone ever encounter issues with staff saying anything or questioning you?

It's incredibly easy to blend in a hotel, you're far more likely to run into issues in a small apartment building or a house in a single family neighborhood. So long as you don't act like a moron and attract a lot of attention to yourself there's nothing to worry about.

17 minutes ago, AdamSandler said:

That's maybe a little concerning but also if that's really her commenting in this thread she may have asked for someone to leave a review if they had a good time. Makes some sense to me anyway.

I'd wait until someone who has been here for a while leaves some feedback...

She is advertising in 2 cities at once.

6 feet tall and 44 pounds? Lmao

I have never once seen a local Asian provider who wasn't a total bait and switch. I don't even bother anymore it's just a waste of time imo. It's not just the pictures either they regularly lie about the services offered as well. Best to wait for a traveling provider with good reviews if you insist on seeing an Asian girl. Looks like there's one in a few weeks.

19 minutes ago, Gokennygo said:

I just messaged Mia , mentioned she was recommended here but people mentioned her photos were fake , asked for a true one, she said her current ad is her? Guessing no?

I'm pretty sure she has multiple ads with completely different pictures on each, I know for a fact she did that last time she was here. None of the pics are of her.

Those prices scream fake.

19 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Works the other way far too many times, we make a deposit, and the SP is a no-show. I don't see how deposits or IDs are too necessary in securing a client, if they can't make it to the appointment, then they can't make it, has nothing to do with the SP or there being a deposit or not. Having placed a deposit and shown their ID, is not an added incentive to not be a no-show, it's for different reasons if they can't show up. 🙂

I've been cancelled on too many times, yes even by "reputable" providers I've seen before, to ever be willing to pay in advance. The no-show problem goes in both directions. It sucks for everyone involved but that's just the way people are I guess.

11 hours ago, jbsmythe said:

BTW - the upscale, well established agencies in Toronto and MTL have screening and verification requirements too. 

Yes, but these agencies actually act in a professional manner. If I book with them, I can be confident I will actually be getting the appointment, and if something goes wrong I will get a timely response addressing the problem. There is no recourse to follow when you get ghosted by an independent provider you gave a deposit to, aside from going on a forum like this and turning it into a game of he-said she-said.