price ranges

[Guest f***2f***]

Yeah the price point is not all that important. It's the quality of the encounter. If the SP is not bringing a quality encounter she's going to be low volume no matter what she's charging. Word spreads quickly and those who are not providing the service don't get the repeats or the new referrals. It's the same in any business. I have my vehicles serviced where I get good, reliable service.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

I tend to agree that there does not tend to be a direct correlation between rates and "quality" of the services provided and the fun that is had. A much better variable, in my opinion, is the age or emotional maturity of the lady.

[Angeltbay 612]

First of all, I must say, I am absolutely amazed how many different opinions are here for every aspect of my initial post. I didn't think it would be of this variety, and I appreciate everyone how have responded to this, and to the degree of their opinions. Absolutely mindblowing!

 

And to thoes who commented on my "degrading" portion of my post, degrading to me would be the amount of SP's who would lower their cost, to get more clients to "get their fix" I'm sorry to actually say that, but in thunder bay, there is a high drug problem here, which is sad, but is a fact

I would NEVER mean to say any certain price is degrading because when I lived in winnipeg, just getting started I charged very very low ( I worked on "phone date lines" like lavalife and grapevine) and I am sorry to thoes who thought I ment that once u reach a certain level, its degrading, that was not my intention.

I agree with everyone really, the high volume vs. Low volume, the qualitly of service vs. the lower quality, and "the better deal" and just what u can afford.

 

To each their own

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[jughead 45]

IMHO what an SP/MP charges, does have the effect of putting limits on volume people they see. It also has another effect there are hobiest out there that cannot afford the high over inflated prices that are being charged.

 

Perhap I could have chosen different words but I am not going to take them back...........Nor were they ment as an insult or degrading to the lades in any way shape or form, it's all just a matter of perspective I guess. Others here have stated my point very clearly.

 

I am direct in my handlin of everything and that way even I wite things is direct and to the point.

 

If any lady has taken offence to what I have stated in any way shape or form.

 

I do apploigize.

 

roamingguy

 

Yes I do agree that the ladies have the right to charge what ever they fell there time is worth, and it is fair value. But there is a small segmint that does not fit into that group, whuch is why I do not see them but rather choose value. I have never haggeled with any lady over price, if I was unwilling to pay it I would not be there.

 

Although you may not have ment them this way, I have taken you comments toward me personally as an insult.

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

So much of pricing is subjective, in the end. We make generalizations because they work for us in nearly every aspect of our lives, whether they're always accurate or not.

 

There are some wonderful companions out there who may charge as little as $100 an hour. They're caring, compassionate and beautiful women who give fabulous, individualized service and enjoy what they do. As long as they're enjoying their work and are treated well by their clients, I'm happy for them.

 

I can well understand why it may appear that some of us charge too much. I hear this, myself, occasionally. I'm almost 45 years old. I'm not as beautiful as I was, say, 20 years ago. Isn't it arrogant of me to has such high rates? Surely no one really pays them! I can probably be convinced to take less and be glad that I got a meeting, right?

 

No. If someone can't afford my fees, I tell them they can see someone else, now, or they might wait awhile and save a bit of money until they can afford me. I have clients who say they're happy they did that. Other men have opted for someone else.

 

I'm in this to make a living. If I can't find enough clients who will pay what I ask, often enough, I won't succeed. I'll need to figure out what's wrong. Maybe I'm not advertising enough or in the right places. Maybe I'm not available at the times that prospective clients can see me most easily. Maybe the quality of what I offer isn't good enough to bring in as much repeat business as I'd like. Maybe there aren't enough potential clients out there whom I would like to see and who can afford me. Maybe my rates are too high.

 

I've been in this business for quite awhile. I'm earning what I want to be earning both because I seem to appeal to a particular demographic--older men who want the company of a woman my age--and there are comparatively few companions my age to compete with. An abundance of purchasers seeking a relatively rare commodity does tend to translate into a higher price. It helps that I'm very good at what I do, too, if I do say so myself. :biggrin:

[Angeltbay 612]

i wanted to quote both rominguy, and jughead on one of their pevious posts before i asked this question; is there a such thing as under-inflated though??

 

and sorry to thoes who may have gotten offended by anyones pesonal opinion on here, but everyone needs to remember that all the threads on here are indeed PERSONAL OPINIONS!

no one is RIGHT, and no one is WRONG! its just different opinions, which should be respected, even if your opionion is diferent then someone elses.

[roamingguy 300291]

My viewpoint from a hobbiest's point of view. I don't think I can say a lady undervalues or values or overvalues herself. Only the lady herself can determine her value for her time, companionship and services.

If the lady feels she is undervaluing herself, she should raise her rates

Don't know if that helps

RG

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Only the lady herself can determine her value for her time, companionship and services.

If the lady feels she is undervaluing herself, she should raise her rates

Well, I value my services at about $1000/hour but I don't think anyone's going to pay that. LOL!

 

If only we got paid what we thought we were worth, and that goes for EVERY job including teachers, public service workers, waiters/waitresses, etc.

 

What an awesome world it would be! hehe :)

[roamingguy 300291]

Well' date=' I value my services at about $1000/hour but I don't think anyone's going to pay that. LOL!

 

If only we got paid what we thought we were worth, and that goes for EVERY job including teachers, public service workers, waiters/waitresses, etc.

 

What an awesome world it would be! hehe :)[/quote']

 

And in that world I would gladly pay you a $1000.00/hr, because I would have much more money because I'm paid what I'm worth too...damn, economics sucks at times LOL

RG

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

And in that world I would gladly pay you a $1000.00/hr, because I would have much more money because I'm paid what I'm worth too...damn, economics sucks at times LOL

RG

Which means I'm going to have to pay more to get the services/products I want, such as yours? And more in taxes to pay all government employees what they're worth?

 

Making $1000/hour doesn't sound so good anymore LOL

[roamingguy 300291]

So I guess I was right...economics sucks

RG

[jughead 45]

; is there a such thing as under-inflated though??

 

Yes, my answer.

 

Over-inflated and under-inflated in the area of pricing does exist out there, and it goes a lot futher than the industry we are talking about. Each with it's own unique side effect as a direct result.

 

This is just my viewpoint from a hobbiest's point of view, I certainly do not wish to upset any one with my viewpoint.

[rickoshadows 937]

If only we got paid what we thought we were worth' date=' and that goes for EVERY job including teachers, public service workers, waiters/waitresses, etc.:)[/quote']

 

Most people aren't being paid what they are worth. Be grateful!

[Exec 202]

I have difficulty viewing this as a business. Personally it would not work for me.

My experience is very limited. A short time frame and just in Ottawa.

 

I have a business perspective on this industry.

 

My back ground is in social work and business.

I have always vieued my contributions to society as a health care professional to be extremely valuable yet the compensation has always been extremely poor.

 

In business the reverse is true.

What I charge for a product depends on many factors. It's value is rarely a factor in pricing.

 

I do very well financially with my businesses yet they are not nearly as valuable to society as my job

From my experience with the few ladies that I have meet.

I could not afford to pay what their services have been worth to me, I believe they charge what I or the market will bare.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cost generally fluctuates with demand not value. Health care providers, and SP are under compensated.

[Guest s******ecan****]

Cost generally fluctuates with demand not value. Health care providers, and SP are under compensated.

 

 

Value is an extremely subjective interpretation. Often we hear things like "teachers are valuable we should pay them what we pay star atheletes, or celebreties".

 

But money talks in our society, we say these things but then begrudge the government when it takes tax dollars to pay public servants, while at the sametime laying out thousands of dollars time and hours of attention (when we can be targeted for commercial solicitation) willingly to buy all manner of things (from tickets, to apparrell, to beer, big screen tv's, cable subscriptions, radio call in shows, magazines, and "Entertainment Tonight" etc etc.) associated with our favourite atheletes and celebrities. So are we not in the end spending the money on what we "truly value" and just kidding ourselves when we claim we don't really value these things more than the others?

[Guest T**E******s]

So much of pricing is subjective, in the end. We make generalizations because they work for us in nearly every aspect of our lives, whether they're always accurate or not.

 

There are some wonderful companions out there who may charge as little as $100 an hour. They're caring, compassionate and beautiful women who give fabulous, individualized service and enjoy what they do. As long as they're enjoying their work and are treated well by their clients, I'm happy for them.

 

I can well understand why it may appear that some of us charge too much. I hear this, myself, occasionally. I'm almost 45 years old. I'm not as beautiful as I was, say, 20 years ago. Isn't it arrogant of me to has such high rates? Surely no one really pays them! I can probably be convinced to take less and be glad that I got a meeting, right?

 

No. If someone can't afford my fees, I tell them they can see someone else, now, or they might wait awhile and save a bit of money until they can afford me. I have clients who say they're happy they did that. Other men have opted for someone else.

 

I'm in this to make a living. If I can't find enough clients who will pay what I ask, often enough, I won't succeed. I'll need to figure out what's wrong. Maybe I'm not advertising enough or in the right places. Maybe I'm not available at the times that prospective clients can see me most easily. Maybe the quality of what I offer isn't good enough to bring in as much repeat business as I'd like. Maybe there aren't enough potential clients out there whom I would like to see and who can afford me. Maybe my rates are too high.

 

I've been in this business for quite awhile. I'm earning what I want to be earning both because I seem to appeal to a particular demographic--older men who want the company of a woman my age--and there are comparatively few companions my age to compete with. An abundance of purchasers seeking a relatively rare commodity does tend to translate into a higher price. It helps that I'm very good at what I do, too, if I do say so myself. :biggrin:

 

That was Brilliant! So many could really use a crash course in business. You look so very lovely though,and I can only imagine your experience would increase your pricing :)

[Luscious Laurel 205]

I just realized the other day, that men and women probably look at pricing from a completely different standpoint.

 

Women think "this is how much I am worth"

 

Men think: "this is how much I am willing to spend on myself"

[just2enjoy 1621]

IMHO, it is not the price the SP is requesting that would be considered degrading, but rather how they are treated by others.

 

An earlier comment regarding sticking together and supporting each other commands far more merit than any price point.

 

The price doesn't necessarily mean you get what you pay for, it just means you get who you pay for.

 

Personally, I first look over the ads, then the reviews. If the SP appeals to me, I will check the amt of required donation. Most SP's are within a range so it is not an issue. For those who are higher, I may have to pass for economical reasons (or I may try to save more for the special treat)

 

I don't think many of the hobbyist would shop by price first and then choose the SP. If an SP is really undercutting to get a 'fix', I think this would either be detected and avoided, or at least would be suspicious since it is not normal.

 

If the SP is price reducing because they are desperate for the next 'fix', they are not degrading themselves by reducing their rate, just means that they are in need of help and assistance as their lives are at stake!

 

It is not my intent to offend anyone, and if I have, I apologize in advance.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

I think pricing has more to do with wherever you start in the business. When I started 20 plus years ago I got paid 240/hr from the agency I was working with..then of course had to give a cut to the agent and the driver. When I became an independent I charged the same rates as they had.. BUT there were also girls in the paper charging 70 bucks for shorter sessions even back then.

 

I finally met a couple of girls at an incall who charged those rates.. and you know what? they were totally capable of charging more but didn't. And here's the rub.. they weren't any busier than myself. That blew my mind. I fully expected them to have way more responses to their ad at that price but they didn't. I'm betting they had no idea they could charge more. It's what they ''knew''.

 

This was in Toronto btw.. not a small town and as far as I know they weren't major drug users. They smoked pot but that's all I saw.

 

In my experience charging a more moderate rate will get me more business for sure.. but a rock bottom rate will not. There is something to the ''undervalue'' of a rock bottom price that screams desperate even though it may not be.. that's just the business model I see.. if it's too cheap.. it must not be worth it. As a consumer I love to get a bargain but am always suspicious if a price is too low.

 

This is not to say that lower rate = drug user. I have met plenty of escorts who charged high rates that were severe drug users.. and girls who charged low rates who weren't. There are no hard and fast rules here.

[ottawaadventurer 5114]

There are two things I NEVER skimp on... my bed, and who I get into bed with. Not sure I can pass that on to my kids though...

[Angeltbay 612]

I really really enjoyed carrie moons last post. it almost changes my opinion of what i see here in thunderbay, it was very well put, and i just wanted to state that, more than just a nominated post. Carrie moon, thank you for your post.

[dunn2010 121]

Ladies, please ignore the last part of Manitoba's comments! Such a drastic move would have a significant negative impact on my hobbying budget! lol :frown:

 

I doubled my rate, doubled my business and quadrupled my income.

[Madison_Sparks 3740]

In my personal observations and experiences, I find that the "you get what you pay for" concept is pretty firm in Thunder Bay. I've been a local in Thunder bay for 11 yrs and I have always been unsatisfied with the level of service and representation from agents or independents with "economy" rates.

 

I once meet a woman crawling up in her years that had a very high call volume and asked me if I wanted to take a few calls for her. Of course I did but what she had failed to tell me is that she charged $50 for a half hour and $80 for a full!!!!! and the prices reflected her client list as well. The one call I preformed was with a VERY rude gentleman, and I never took a second one.

 

My prices have always been above the norm since I became a licensed independent, and it has weened out many of the disrespectful gents. My call volume is perfect really, I don't have to worry about being over tired, and the clients that book with me are just bloody freaken wonderful!!!

 

But price is a notification to the client about what to expect. when I started out making $60 per hour after agency fees plus tips I wasn't making enough to invest in myself for work. when you work at that price on a 24 hr schedule your become run down and mentally exhausted looking for ways to get multiple hours or tips to make the call worth your time and effort. So what you end up with is an exhausted call girl/boy who is doing nothing but sleeping and working, no time or energy to take care of themselves physically, mentally, or medically.

 

Although without a solid following of clients raising the price above others is a marketing nightmare!!! I actually gave out coupons to first time clients that gave them 1/2 price off the second hour if they came back to book again *BTW ladies this is a great marketing campaign to get yourself out there ;)

 

My point being, regular "hobbyists" are wise to what they want and are looking for. Prices ranges are as important as descriptions and how sweet/polite your agent/booker is on the phones in determining if a client chooses to book with a sex trade worker.

[Guest t**obb****]

Thunder Bay hobbyist comment on the Thunder Bay price ranges

 

Basically as a hobbyist I have a basket of funds available for discreet fun.

This really will not change much, unless i get a raise or windfall.

 

So lets take a $1000 every two weeks for fun times, with the range of $80 - $200 for service in the Thunder Bay In Call market.

If i decide to skip the clubs and such and devote it to just SPs, the question is how do I divy it up?

 

Thought Process for visiting a brand new SP

1. Who is available when i can work around significant others?

2. If there is a new sp with a slightly higher or lower rate that offers services I'm specifically looking for, than I may try her out. This tri +/- $30 from a base of $150.

3. If new person does not offer specific services I am looking for and charges a lower rate <$100, I pass

4. If new VIP SP offers services I am looking for at a much higher $>300/hr. I check for reviews, especially on CERB, and if I can't find excellent reviews, I pass.

4. a) If VIP new SP charged $350/hr (MSOG), I would see her once. If it was a blast and she's not from Thunder Bay, I might spend the the remaining $650with her on following session(s), if i can make the timings/bookings work.

 

After this, the new SP becomes part of the regular Thunder Bay offerings, and then it becomes Timing, availability of the SP, and what I feel I can make work, to spend out my allotted $1000

 

At this point we are not so much taking about lower prices, but some days I have 1/2 hr and just need an appetizer ($80). Other days I might need a full meal ($160). Another time I might be looking for some talented "firecracker" fun ($200).

And another time I might choose to relax twice over conversation in one session.($150+$50)

Or if i can make it work indulge with a GFE MSOG 1-1..5hr $350 - $450 2 days in a row

 

My needs vary, i am busy, time limited, and my circumstances need to be worked around, and I am tempted by the newness of new SPs.

 

Due to the limited market of SPs that meet my needs and circumstances I am usually giving the full $1000 to 1 or 2 SPs which may change depending on connections with new SPs that really don't get advertised here after clientele is established.

 

One New SP (SaraMQ) here raised her rate substantially for clients after establishing here. I had seen her before, but agreed to pay a higer rate because everyone deserves a raise for good performance.

 

If I do not repeat regularly with a SP in this limited market, it just means that someone else is a better fit at this time for my needs.

 

Final Note

One way SPs in Thunder Bay may be able to leverage a pricepoint would be to increase their rate and offer time based service with MSOG, versus the menu items. Perhaps even a professional studio that distinguishes your service from others.(clean, scent free, non-smoking, decorated for mood, rear discreet entrance, independent, available 24X7, etc )

 

This is not widely available in Thunder Bay, and I personally would pay a premium for this level of service.

[Guest ma*be***ag***]

For me, having had the opportunity now to meet a couple of wonderful ladies, I have come to the conclusion that the experience is what I pay for. And as time goes forward, I would much rather be a repeat client to one (or two possibly) ladies where I know that I will always get the best possible experience.

 

Does money factor into it? Absolutely. I work in the sales industry myself, and I work hard for my disposable income. I will never nickel and dime, or try to negotiate rates, because I feel that no matter what the rates, you ladies are earning your money. However, like everyone else, I want the best experience. I don't think it matters if you charge $80 or $500, I'll know pretty early on if it was worth it...

 

That's my two cents.