frustrated

[Suzirider 737]

...way too much power to do as they please...

 

Sounds like ,Us verses Them !

I for one am not controlled by this imaginary power !

Name a board that has anywhere near the same number of Ladies participating, and Why is that ?

We get to talk to the ladies, and not just talk about them !

I vote to keep this site as it is !

[livenudecats 4067]

My 2 cents on negative reviews.

 

There are 2 kinds of negative reviews.

The honest, reliable ones written by reputable guys who have truley had a bad experience.

The other are the ones written by someone with an axe to grind and are not honest or reflective of the SP's character or service. These can occur for a variety of reasons such as vengence, jealousy (another SP or her BF), the guy is one of those who is never happy, unreasonable expectations, poor communication, etc.

What one must do when reading a negative review is evaluate the context of the review and the mood of the author. Was it obviously written in anger or well thought out and rational? Was it more of a personal attack than a review? Who wrote it and what is their posting history? How does this correlate with other reviews written about said provider? What is their main complaint? Is it a situation where that particular gentleman's tastes are different than yours?

I'm about to go on a business trip to Boston. I'm staying in a very nice hotel. More expensive than I normally would but my supplier is paying the bill and they picked the place. I went online and while 98% of the comments are excellent there were a few people on there saying they have bedbugs, or not enough towels or the staff were unfriendly. Now do I believe the positive comments of hundreds or the negative comments, possibly left by competitors, of a few?

What I'm trying to say is, there is no such thing as a fool proof, 100% accurate reliable review (unless it's one of mine ;)). Whether it is a positive (there are alot of shill reviews out there as well) or a negative review, one must read and analyse the content and then decide for one's self if this is advice you wish to follow.

 

Cheers

[mrgreen760 37785]

Just happened yet again after confirming and reconfirming.....well that's a wrap for me.

 

Peace

MG

[ThisOneWorks 4707]

I can empathize with your sentiment, however I do cringe at the latent hostility with which it was expressed....

 

Elizabeth I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

The point I was simply trying to make was tell the guy that it's not worth getting frustrated and trying to blame the escort, or try to put her down. But to make himself feel better just don't call that lady ever again. There was no hostility intended.

If I go somewhere and don't enjoy the service I get, be it an escort, a clothering store or a restaurant, I probably won't go back there again, hence they won't get any more of my money.

No hostility intended... just facts.

 

Back on topic:

Negative Reviews, rarely help anyone feel better except possibly the person giving the negative review.

And then of course there are all the variables which the reviewer undoubtedly neglects to include when making a negative review. ie: they showed up smelly straight from work, drunk, rude, mean, high on drugs, etc, and then wanted something that was never going to be allowed by the SP in the first place.

Then we would of course want the escort would give her opinion of the client and I'm betting there are plenty of negative reviews of some of them that could be put on here. But now we would just be throwing stones back and forth and that doesn't actually help anyone.

SO just play nice, follow the rules of CERB! That's what makes THIS REVIEW board stand out from the rest.

[nelle 2165]

SO just play nice, follow the rules of CERB! That's what makes THIS REVIEW board stand out from the rest

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Well said !!!! :bigclap:

[livenudecats 4067]

Back on topic:

Negative Reviews, rarely help anyone feel better except possibly the person giving the negative review.

 

I respectfully disagree. While for some, spewing venom via the written word can be theraputic, I have NEVER written a negative review so I would feel better. That's what a heavy bag is for, LOL. I have written negative reviews as a way to give back to my fellow pooners so they will hopefully avoid a bad experience such as their words have often prevented me from repeating their mistake. I will say that in my 10+ years of seeing SP's, honest reviews, be they positive or negative, from other's whose opinions I trust, have led me to meet some wonderful ladies I might not have, as well as saved me thousands of dollars I might have spent on poor SP's.

[Monkeyman 100]

I think there should be an option of a poll kind of thing where you can post a number in the area of concern. For instance. If you wanted to rate a sp, you could put a 10 for looks if you liked her, but if she was late without an excuse you could put a 6. That would make it possible to provide a review (of sorts) without getting so tasteless as I have seen elsewhere.

 

Another option could be being able to review certain aspects. I can see it being off limits to get into specifics about a womans body type (very subjective), but if she doesn't answer a phone ever, answers it during a session, or no shows on you without an explanation, I don't see the harm in reviewing that. I've only seen one provider (she was on time, attractive, very personal, and lots of fun) and it was a good experience. But when I tried to contact another, made the appointment a week in advance, called the day before and made sure we were still on, when it was the appointed time, no show. Disappointing.

[Guest E*******h S******s]

I respectfully disagree. While for some, spewing venom via the written word can be theraputic, I have NEVER written a negative review so I would feel better. That's what a heavy bag is for, LOL. I have written negative reviews as a way to give back to my fellow pooners so they will hopefully avoid a bad experience such as their words have often prevented me from repeating their mistake. I will say that in my 10+ years of seeing SP's, honest reviews, be they positive or negative, from other's whose opinions I trust, have led me to meet some wonderful ladies I might not have, as well as saved me thousands of dollars I might have spent on poor SP's.

 

I think there should be an option of a poll kind of thing where you can post a number in the area of concern. For instance. If you wanted to rate a sp, you could put a 10 for looks if you liked her, but if she was late without an excuse you could put a 6. That would make it possible to provide a review (of sorts) without getting so tasteless as I have seen elsewhere.

 

Another option could be being able to review certain aspects. I can see it being off limits to get into specifics about a womans body type (very subjective), but if she doesn't answer a phone ever, answers it during a session, or no shows on you without an explanation, I don't see the harm in reviewing that. I've only seen one provider (she was on time, attractive, very personal, and lots of fun) and it was a good experience. But when I tried to contact another, made the appointment a week in advance, called the day before and made sure we were still on, when it was the appointed time, no show. Disappointing.

 

Gentlemen, while you both are absolutely entitled to your opinion, there are many other boards where you can post your negative experiences. This is the ONE board where it isn't allowed. The fact that you believe the rules should change is irrelevant. As one poster already pointed out, there are more ladies that post here than on any other board. The reason for that is that we know we won't be flamed or attacked. Personally, I like being on a board where I know that nobody is going to bitch about my stretch marks (I had the utter temerity to bring 3 human beings of your gender into the world), call me an old hag (how dare I be middle aged and think I'm still attractive) or rate me (what? I'm a side of beef?).

 

I think you are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one because complaining about not being able to write negative reviews isn't going to change how this board is run.

[renegade 11027]

Sorry to hear that Mr Green but it seems to happen all to often there, don,t give up there are exceptions to the rule, feel free to pm me for the names of wpg providers i know are reliable.

[nelle 2165]

(I had the utter temerity to bring 3 human beings of your gender into the world), call me an old hag (how dare I be middle aged and think I'm still attractive) or rate me (what? I'm a side of beef?).

 

 

 

. My props to any woman who brought babies into this world. I have not yet but I seen it happen with my own eyes and I think any woman who did that and has the hardest yet most fullfilling job in the world ( being a mother) shlould deserve the utmost appreciation

[livenudecats 4067]

Gentlemen, while you both are absolutely entitled to your opinion, there are many other boards where you can post your negative experiences. This is the ONE board where it isn't allowed. The fact that you believe the rules should change is irrelevant. As one poster already pointed out, there are more ladies that post here than on any other board. The reason for that is that we know we won't be flamed or attacked. Personally, I like being on a board where I know that nobody is going to bitch about my stretch marks (I had the utter temerity to bring 3 human beings of your gender into the world), call me an old hag (how dare I be middle aged and think I'm still attractive) or rate me (what? I'm a side of beef?).

 

I think you are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one because complaining about not being able to write negative reviews isn't going to change how this board is run.

 

I don't think I ever said we should be allowed to voice negative reviews on CERB. Infact, I pointed out that this is a "recommendation" board not a review board. I do belong to another board where I am free to do a negative review if I wish.

My comments are not and should not be taken as criticism of this board or lobbying for change. I was simply trying to illustrate that in many cases a negative review when warrented can be quite useful. As a business owner I realize that all complaints fall into one of 3 categories. The frivolous ones from clients God couldn't make happy, the minor ones often the result of miscommunication and the real ones that result when my employees or I don't do our job. As much as I don't like the 3rd type, I don't run from them but use them as an opportuntiy to learn, correct mistakes and improve our customer service. I know of a few cases where even the lady in question took the criticism in a constructive manner and used it to improve on her services. Sure the frivolous ones bug me but I don't let them ruin my day because I truley know, in my heart and 99% of my good customers know, they are not true. Any decent SP shouldn't be afraid of negative reviews. If your good at your job, you won't get many and the of few you do get, most will either be recognized by your fans as frivolous and the others you might learn from.

Anyway, I'm not complaining or advocating change here on CERB. Just giving an alternative opinion on reviews

 

Cheers

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

From my standpoint, the biggest problem with reviews is that they're anonymous. There's no way to verify who the writer is, whether he even saw the woman he's purporting to review, how he behaved when he was with her, or anything else.

 

On some boards, one has to be a member in order to read complete reviews. Membership can be purchased, or it can be acquired in exchange for writing reviews. That's a high incentive for writing bogus reviews. Too often, men will pretend to have seen X or Y.

 

There are a few legendary campaigns that were launched against specific companions where the sole intent was to wreck the reputation of ladies who had long been credited with giving first-class care and attention. Men not only wrote highly critical reviews, but also encouraged others to engage in attacking the companion in order to wreck her reputation, sometimes just because they could do it. Sadly, some of these hate-campaigns succeeded: the companions concerned saw their business go up in smoke for no good reason and without having recourse to protect or defend themselves against their attackers. Two women I know started over, inventing new names, new websites, the whole bit--requiring literally hundreds of unpaid hours to get back to work. Others have not been so resilient.

 

Very young, stunningly beautiful women who are newcomers to the sex trade get a lot of attention. If they have level heads and have done their homework adequately, they can make a killing in their first year, especially if their reviews are good. False reviews that are highly flattering are likely to be written by board members who want to advertise that they had a romp with the latest, hottest lovely. Reviews that exaggerate negative points are also likely to be written, though.

 

At the same time, there are older women, women who've been in the industry for awhile, women who are smaller, larger, extensively tattooed, or who have unique physical traits, and women who focus on particular fetishes and activities who do very well in the business but who are never or very rarely reviewed. Some men don't want to make it publicly known that they like certain types of women or that they want to engage in particular activities. One might assume that women who do not have a long list of reviews to refer to are not worth seeing.

 

In too many cases, the written reviews are not about the paid companion at all. They're about the writer and what he wants readers to believe about his aesthetics, technique and endurance. Recommendations, on the other hand, are more likely to be about the companion and the qualities she offers that the writer thinks others will enjoy.

 

Read reviews if you like. Read recommendations, too. Pay attention to companions who seem interesting to you, for whatever reason, however much they've been reviewed or recommended. Get to know the ones you think you might like to visit at some time, whether in the near future or later. Most of us will exchange up-beat PMs quite happily.

 

When you want to set up a meeting, arrange to speak with your chosen companion in person, on the phone. In my experience, that conversation will be the one thing that gives you and her the greatest assurance that the meeting will take place as planned. Voice-to-voice contact takes the engagement from the mental fantasy phase to the real-life, anticipation phase. If you enjoy each other on the phone, the meeting will happen. If it doesn't, you can expect to be given appropriate notice and a very good reason for her need to postpone, just as you'll be concerned to give her the same consideration.

[nelle 2165]

Originally posted bt Livenudecats

My comments are not and should not be taken as criticism of this board or lobbying for change. I was simply trying to illustrate that in many cases a negative review when warrented can be quite useful. As a business owner I realize that all complaints fall into one of 3 categories. The frivolous ones from clients God couldn't make happy, the minor ones often the result of miscommunication and the real ones that result when my employees or I don't do our job.

 

 

Originally posted by Samantha Evans

There are a few legendary campaigns that were launched against specific companions where the sole intent was to wreck the reputation of ladies who had long been credited with giving first-class care and attention. Men not only wrote highly critical reviews, but also encouraged others to engage in attacking the companion in order to wreck her reputation, sometimes just because they could do it. Sadly, some of these hate-campaigns succeeded: the companions concerned saw their business go up in smoke for no good reason and without having recourse to protect or defend themselves against their attackers. Two women I know started over, inventing new names, new websites, the whole bit--requiring literally hundreds of unpaid hours to get back to work. Others have not been so resilient.

 

Very young, stunningly beautiful women who are newcomers to the sex trade get a lot of attention. If they have level heads and have done their homework adequately, they can make a killing in their first year, especially if their reviews are good. False reviews that are highly flattering are likely to be written by board members who want to advertise that they had a romp with the latest, hottest lovely. Reviews that exaggerate negative points are also likely to be written, though

 

 

I hear you both. let me just say " I know exactly what you mean."

[livenudecats 4067]

Somebody remind me.

What was this thread originally about? LOL!

[Monkeyman 100]

Sorry, that was all I was doing was giving an opinion on options for reviews. To be honest, I think it could be used to review bad dates/numbers too of guys that aren't respectful of the service providers. No offense meant to anyone. :)

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

Sorry, that was all I was doing was giving an opinion on options for reviews. To be honest, I think it could be used to review bad dates/numbers too of guys that aren't respectful of the service providers. No offense meant to anyone. :)

 

No offense taken! :-)

 

Reviews seem to be a good idea, I admit. Restaurant reviews, consumer reports and the like are important to me in my "real" life. I want to be sure that I'm spending my money on goods and services that will be as good as, or better than, I expect them to be. My fees are high; I completely understand why someone would want to be sure that he's getting good value for his money.

 

It would be wonderful if we could have a review system for clients, as well, but there again, anonymity mitigates against it. There are several bad date sheets, including a list here at CERB, and sensible companions pay attention to them. Unfortunately, these lists aren't fool-proof, either.

 

As it stands, the best way to be sure that the companion and the client are each what they claim to be, that they will show up for the date and that events will be satisfying, is to slow things down, take some time to make contact, have a telephone conversation, and, above all, to follow your gut instincts! If something doesn't seem right to either party, they should walk away. Intuition isn't perfect, but it's better to turn down something that could have been wonderful than to go ahead with something that could become threatening or dangerous.

[Guest ch****]

whenever I buy peaches , nectarines or pineapples (not for my pizza) I give them a quick smell. if it smells like a peach , nectarine or pineapple they're good.

This method poses some problems when deciding on a potential Lady. Ive bought peaches that dont taste as sweet and juicy as some of the ladies ive seen ( Christine (yum) for example ) but they're still enjoyable.

Guys....we all like pizza and blowjobs (even better when combined) once again hold the pineapple. I have to admit that even when theyre both bad, they're still pizza and blowjobs...so still pretty good!

Where am I going with this?.... funny you should ask ( cause i wasn't sure for a minute there myself) so may i submit this to you...

When looking for a SP , sniff with your eyes and ears and brain. Like Samantha said, trust your instincts! and if things arent going as well as you'd hoped with your Lady of choice, try to have as much fun as possible(cause its your dime) chalk it up to experience and remember that even bad pizza is still pizza !!! Cheers

[rexx 531]

As it stands, the best way to be sure that the companion and the client are each what they claim to be, that they will show up for the date and that events will be satisfying, is to slow things down, take some time to make contact, have a telephone conversation, and, above all, to follow your gut instincts! If something doesn't seem right to either party, they should walk away. Intuition isn't perfect, but it's better to turn down something that could have been wonderful than to go ahead with something that could become threatening or dangerous.

 

Definitely agree with you but my experience here in Winnipeg like Frustrated's is that even after several contacts both by email and phone you come to that dreaded "call me to confirm an hour before and I'll give you my address" line which in Winnipeg for some reason seems to mean that its still up to them if they want to keep the appointment so its 50/50 that they will answer. I've pretty much given up and stick to going to MPs here instead.

[mrgreen760 37785]

Definitely agree with you but my experience here in Winnipeg like Frustrated's is that even after several contacts both by email and phone you come to that dreaded "call me to confirm an hour before and I'll give you my address" line which in Winnipeg for some reason seems to mean that its still up to them if they want to keep the appointment so its 50/50 that they will answer. I've pretty much given up and stick to going to MPs here instead.

 

The one hour before text or call confirmation with no answer/response is the worst and frankly these days I think 50/50 might be a bit too generous. It particularly sucks because we prepare as well, we clear our schedules, some clean up as it were and while I do get someone not being into it on any given day and for a variety of reasons, at least be polite enough to cancel....

 

And to show I'm fair :) I think that clients who no show without calling or texting to cancel are the worst as well....

 

Peace

MG