Obama visits Ottawa

[risque 107]

Is CERB going to roll out the welcome mat for Obama by opening WIDE...............that is the question!!

[Kubrickfan 12836]

Being from the US, I was kinda hoping you all would keep him up there. He's wreaking havoc in the US's financial markets. I never thought we would have a more liberal leader than Canada ... can we trade you for Harper? ;>)

[Pretty_Playmate 107]

It was great I was front and center .... AMAZING

[esoterica 624]

It was great I was front and center .... AMAZING

 

Mmmm - i like the idea of your front and centre :P

[whatsup 11893]

You really do not want Harper. The US economy was compromised long before Obama was elected and he has an extremely daunting task in front of him as the rest of the world leaders.

 

Being from the US, I was kinda hoping you all would keep him up there. He's wreaking havoc in the US's financial markets. I never thought we would have a more liberal leader than Canada ... can we trade you for Harper? ;>)

[Pretty_Playmate 107]

Mmmm - i like the idea of your front and centre :P

any time babe any time...lol

as long as obama can watch....lol

[Missy Mariposa 234]

Being from the US, I was kinda hoping you all would keep him up there. He's wreaking havoc in the US's financial markets. I never thought we would have a more liberal leader than Canada ... can we trade you for Harper? ;>)

 

The market was screwed long before Obama got in, it's only been a month I think he needs a bit more time. Everytime I hear someone talking about what Obama has or hasn't done, I think people need to remember that he's not God, he can't just snap his fingers and fix everything, this is gonna take YEARS to fix. It wasn't broken overnight, it won't be fixed overnight.

 

That being said, I don't think Harper would do much better with the economy. Everyone here just complains about him nonstop. I don't think I've honestly met one person yet that likes him. I do know they exist though, I'm not dumb ;).

 

Honestly, I don't think anyone short of like...FDR would be able to fix this economy quickly.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

I dont want to pull this string off topic, and I'm glad to see Obama doing some travelling (maybe he'll learn something ... smile), but I think many of us have grown up in a generation that believes that the government can somehow "fix" the economy. I respectfully assert that it cant, and in most cases, it does more harm than good. There are many examples over the past 100 years, of governments, possibly with the best intentions, wrongly inserting themselves into the market and causing more harm than good. The "housing crisis," as its being called, was caused by sub-prime lending widely supported by Congress (hell, even Saturday Night Live figured that out), and its effect on a highly -leveraged mortgage derivative market. It didn't take much to cause this market to start to collapse last fall, and I would agree that there is an strong argument for better regulation and oversight, not by idiots in Congress, but by people who know what they are doing. This sort of regulation was actively dismissed by democratic members of Congress as recently as 2 years ago.

 

Obama's actions to date have indicated that he is going to take a spending/re-allocation approach to "fixing"the crisis (he likes the word "crisis" a lot) that may include some socialistic elements such as arbitrarily re-casting mortgages or requiring the taxpayers to subsidize those who cant pay their mortgages. That's certainly one approach and, historically and unfortunately, it never works.

 

By the way, its good to see the reference to FDR, but FDR's programs, although to some extent needed as a safety net for people really suffering during the Great Depression, never got the country out of the Great Depression ... it took World War II to do that. And I believe everything in my note is well-supported by the historical record. Hopefully our new glorious leader (shall we call him the "Big O" on this board?? ... smile) will come to understand that before my mutual funds are completely worthless.

[Fumble Fingerz 120]

I'm not predisposed towards discussing either politics or religion on forums/boards. I will say, however, I was glad to see him come to Ottawa. He has a very difficult task at hand as do all world leaders given the current economic situation, wars, environmental issues, poverty and health-care. Obama's only one person; hopefully, he will be given a fair chance and that he will work in cooperation with US trading partners and other countries.

[Missy Mariposa 234]

By the way, its good to see the reference to FDR, but FDR's programs, although to some extent needed as a safety net for people really suffering during the Great Depression, never got the country out of the Great Depression ... it took World War II to do that.

 

I realise that he didn't totally fix it, but his programs helped ease the suffering. And I'd love to see that happen now. It is going to take something big to get us out of it, maybe not another World War or anything but something major, but a safety net would be nice for the people who are suffering.

 

I left the US before it got bad and the income I have is recession proof (I'm not referring to being an SP, I have other income in the US). And while I never had an ARM mortgage and I didn't live outside of my means, I still feel incredibly blessed/lucky/whatever you want to call it that I am not suffering right now.

[Guest f***2f***]

Obama is a man....he's not a god. He is one man and the Government has a limited effect on the markets and economy. IN the Global context individual politicians have very little effect on the creation of wealth.....my 2 cents worth.

Nice to see the American figure head up here though....although the security was WAY OVER THE TOP!!!

[risque 107]

By posting this thread, I wanted to inject and spread a little "risque humor", because we all need to laugh a little, but much to my dismay it turned out to be a political football

[Guest i***k***]

He is definitely an inspiration for many people around the world. Let's hope he can bring respect, peace and prosperity back to America.

[Guest f***2f***]

He is definitely an inspiration for many people around the world. Let's hope he can bring respect, peace and prosperity back to America.

 

i doubt it but we can always hope

[Seymour 3970]

By posting this thread, I wanted to inject and spread a little "risque humor", because we all need to laugh a little, but much to my dismay it turned out to be a political football

 

Risque humor would be like saying Eliot Spitzer defeated the former in-cum-bent governor to become the governor that resigned due to 'private failings'.:wink:

[Missy Mariposa 234]

although the security was WAY OVER THE TOP!!!

 

He's black. The security HAS to be way over the top. During his campaign alone 10 or so people were arrested for inauguration day assassination plots. The running jokes were "Vote Joe Biden". And I'm honestly just waiting in fear for him to be assassinated. America is still so backwards when it comes to race issues that I'm honestly surprised this guy doesn't walk everywhere in an Iron Man suit.

[Guest f***2f***]

wow that is really terrible. i cannot fathom that kind of racism....i've worked with people of all races all my professional life and to me people are people no matter what colour or creed. And every race has good people and bad people...we are all human.

[Missy Mariposa 234]

While I am white, two of my primary caregivers as a child were black. The racism I've seen in my life is horrifying and depression. When people saw my caregiver at school, I was no longer allowed to go to other kids houses, and no one was ever allowed to come to mine. I heard 7 year old kids using the N word against them.

 

When I was in TN I heard people say shit like "If that N is elected, I'm joinin the clan and waiting for the monkey and his family to get taken out. Then I'm gonna f-ing party"

 

United States of America, the melting pot :roll:

[d*mm*y 887]

I have distant relatives in Alabama and Georgia and they are open minded, my cousin once told me that not all blacks are bad just like not all whites are good. This is the scary part and it the truth, then he said about 5% of blacks are good and about 10% of whites are trash??? WTF. And these people are on the liberal side!

[Kubrickfan 12836]

I really think those examples are more of the exception than the rule, but when you hear about it, or hear the "N word," it hits like a lighting bolt, and it tends to stand out. Remember, after all, Obama got elected, not by an overwhelming majority, but certainly the vote was decisive. So the US deserves credit for that. how many of the major economies int he world (including ... ahem ... Canada ... smile) have elected a black person as their leader? Its an important watershed event.

 

Alabama and Georgia are a big part of the seat of the Old South, and its going to take generations to remove that entirely. As to dummpy's liberal reference, that is historically accurate as well, and not unexpected as that part of the country used to be a democratic bastion until the 70s, albeit with a reactionary view about race issues.

[Guest f***2f***]

I find it so depressing that there is this kind of ignorance rampant in North American society. It makes me wonder if human beings will ever be able to survive.