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When I started at a massage studio back in the early/mid 90?s we were told no daty, no kissing and no digits and anyone who got caught doing that was fired. I worked at a few studios around BC and the rules were all the same. I only started to offer GFE with a few very long term clients and then when I came to the internet about 4 years ago.

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My experience only covers the last two years, but I've always been a GFE, bordering on PSE and that was before I knew about acronyms. I'm just a freak in the sack, what can I say?

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...and there is nothing wrong with that Erin :D

 

 

My experience only covers the last two years, but I've always been a GFE, bordering on PSE and that was before I knew about acronyms. I'm just a freak in the sack, what can I say?

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I have been hobbying all around this country for about 23 years now, and I can tell you that things ahve definately changed...for the better. 20 years ago, it was almost impossible to get daty, and I naver kissed an sp until a couple years ago.

 

There was one sp that i dated for awhile, so obviously I got the gfe treatment from her, but that's becuase she was my gf.

 

Back then, to get anything "extra" you had to pay...BIG.

 

Life is so much better now.

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I've always offered DATY but yes.. when I briefly escorted for an incall agency in Victoria... we had to charge extra for that service.. this was in the 90's when I was there for a couple months. As for kissing? I'm like the Julia Roberts character. That's for whomever I'm dating. My clients respect that I don't kiss and we connect on several other levels. As much as GFE and PSE are in high demand.. they are not the be all and the end all of being good at customer service. AND this is not a dating service. It is a luxury service. Some need kissing and go for it.. others do not see the absolute need for it from a provider.. thank god :) I'm good at what I do.. I just don't kiss. And safety first.. fun 2nd. You can't catch hiv no.. but all the other serious diseases apply. My CBJ is pretty damn good... after all I've had 20 years practice at it!

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My experience only covers the last two years, but I've always been a GFE, bordering on PSE and that was before I knew about acronyms. I'm just a freak in the sack, what can I say?

 

Demon in the sack. Sweet.

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For me, GFE means non-rushed with kissing and something else nobody seems to have mentioned, touching. Not just HJ or BJ or whatever, but some genuine touch. I like to be touched, to be wanted. I need to feel as if I'm wanted and liked. Conversation too...a little bit of spiritual connection is important.

 

For me, that is the biggest turn on of all. Touch me like you want me and like me, talk with me as if we're BF/GF then I don't care if your BJ is covered or not, if your breasts are big or little, if you have a fat belly or a slim one. Mechanical anything, including kissing, just sucks.

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Something that I have been seeing more and more recently is a new term and that is "No Restrictions" which goes beyond physical aspects of GFE to include PSE related services like BBBJ, GREEK, CIF, CIM, COB but may be not necessarily include the emotional aspects.

 

Who knows may be this becomes the future new norm like GFE is at present since there is an almost exponentionally oriented curve for the use of this term if you plot the numbers against time (just check the CL today).

 

I personally don't go for those services but I have tried a few of those no restriction ones so far and personally prefer the GFE which in my definition includes Daty, DFK and lots of kissing and hugging but also the emotional aspects of GF (like the feeling of being liked and wanted equally).

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In today's world, there seem to be a wide range of possibilities. Just remember that at least 50% of the physical responses can be faked (and often are) and that 100% of the emotional ones can be (and too often are). Doesn't mean she can't like you as a client, just that the personal connection can be often rather thin, while the physical one has a certain concrete dimension not matter what. (I.E. she can pretend to like you, but whether she does or not, that's still your cum on her face.)

 

Don't mean to be overly cynical, but if you want a real girl friend, get one. If you want a real porn star, if you're lucky, you'll be able to pay for one. If you want an SP who's friendly and open, be glad when that happens. And it can happen with GFE or PSE or whatever letters you like. But don't pretend it's more than it is, because is most likely isn't. If it is, then really enjoy.

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I've always enjoyed the intimate GFE type experience and would of ended the hobby long ago otherwise. It works on a lot of levels but the 'E' at the end means Experience, and not the real thing.

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Likely true in many cases but not all. I have met dancers (also service providers) whom after a while I have dated and at least in two cases they became my GF and in a few more cases they wanted to become my GF (which means they were not pretending) and in many cases they gave me their phone numbers for possible dinner dates.

 

You may be right when it comes to escorts though. I have been hobbying for a year and a half seeing over 50 different escorts and not even in one case she passed me her phone number asking me to call her for a dinner date or a night out (in a few cases they did pass me their numbers so that I call them directly as escort so that they don't have to pay agency fee. Not same as dancers who expected a call back for dates). I think that escorts are too busy making money whereas dancers are busy making money only when they are working and they view their customers differently (they see a possible future with them) than escorts do.

 

In summary if you want easy quick physical intimacy and emotional GF Experience look for escorts and if you look for less physical intimacy but more real emotional stuff and dating and long term relationships then go for real GF or nude dancers or girls at the dance bars.

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In today's world, there seem to be a wide range of possibilities. Just remember that at least 50% of the physical responses can be faked (and often are) and that 100% of the emotional ones can be (and too often are). Doesn't mean she can't like you as a client, just that the personal connection can be often rather thin, while the physical one has a certain concrete dimension not matter what. (I.E. she can pretend to like you, but whether she does or not, that's still your cum on her face.)

 

Don't mean to be overly cynical, but if you want a real girl friend, get one. If you want a real porn star, if you're lucky, you'll be able to pay for one. If you want an SP who's friendly and open, be glad when that happens. And it can happen with GFE or PSE or whatever letters you like. But don't pretend it's more than it is, because is most likely isn't. If it is, then really enjoy.

your utterly succinct reality check made me chuckle.. I too find it amusing that people think you can just book and pay for a connection. In order to make a true connection you either do or you don't. 1/2 of that connection comes from the client! I luckily connect with alot of people. It usually happens when someone is comfortable with why they are there.. respectful and appreciative of the service. You would think that is not hard to do.. but for some people it can't be done. Even then I'm happy when they're happy. You don't know if you'll really connect for certain til you meet.

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