Kaylee Kisses 1526 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 so the show is in second week and no one has spoke up Im wondering your thoughts on this show ... https://www.change.org/p/a-e-networks-do-not-air-the-new-series-8-minutes-on-the-a-e-channel-it-is-highly-offensive-intrusive-on-the-lives-of-sex-workers http://www.ew.com/article/2014/12/10/prostitute-intervention-reality-show 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexy Grace 103696 Report post Posted April 17, 2015 so the show is in second week and no one has spoke up Im wondering your thoughts on this show ... https://www.change.org/p/a-e-networks-do-not-air-the-new-series-8-minutes-on-the-a-e-channel-it-is-highly-offensive-intrusive-on-the-lives-of-sex-workers http://www.ew.com/article/2014/12/10/prostitute-intervention-reality-show I have watched it and I must say and this is certainly not to ever take anything away from the ladies involved in such situations or to dilute what their experiences are and have been but I personally can say for me what those ladies have endured and go through has never been the case for me, I do know of what they go through and for the ones who got away have dealt with is very much real. It has never been my reality. At first, prior to the show airing I was a bit pissed and turned off and thinking "that is not reality for all of us" and they are only showing the horrid side but as I watched the show it gave me another perspective to the dark side of this lifestyle and what can and does happen. I didn't care for the comments that something has had to have gone wrong in a ladies life to choose this profession or that we chose to escort for any other reasons besides we actually want to, we enjoy this line of work and many have entered in to this line of work with no traumatic event leading to this profession. The one aspect I did like about the show is that it is bringing awareness to the dark and opposite side of the spectrum in this lifestyle that is very much real and a problem but with that said it is not the case for me and many ladies who have truly chosen to voluntary enter in to the business of their own free will. The one thing I never touched on was, what happens after the interviews and promises to help the ladies escape? These ladies are walking in to a situation where they are unaware that they are part of a reality show and it puts their lives in even more danger, some may get free but then what is the question? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amber Rose 19012 Report post Posted April 17, 2015 I wish I could find the link but I can't seem to anymore, but apparently what happens after is nothing. They don't get them the help if they ask for, it's all for show. Apparently one of the ladies on the show posted a plea for the help that they said they would give, and had been arrested and was in a bad place after and even after calling the show they still never gave her the promised help. It's not a show I could possibly recommend, they don't actually care for these women or if they get the help they need. (I'll keep looking for the source to this!) Posted via Mobile Device 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S****r Report post Posted April 17, 2015 I happened to catch an episode of this last night at a hotel and found it highly disturbing. I had never heard of it before. I agree with the comments already expressed here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78396 Report post Posted April 17, 2015 I was unable to sleep again last night so I was doing what I often do flicking through the channels and came across this show and watched I think 3 episodes... It would appear that the group is going through ads in the city's they visit looking for people who they think based on their assessment of the ad are being trafficked or coerced into the life style either by others or by their addictions. I think it is very safe to say that we all know about this darkside to the industry we know that there are sex industry workers who participate in the industry because they are forced or because they don't feel they have any other options. I think from a LYLA / CERB perspective we kinda see that as a different part of the industry then we deal with here and while I agree that to a great extent that is true I have to admit that I personally am aware of ladies who participate in the industry because of extreme financial issues and a feeling of no other options. I have not come across ladies who I think are being coerced into the industry but we all know it happens. My concern with this show is that it sets a tone that all sex work is wrong and in the shows I saw never once did they document crossing paths with a person who was happy in the industry or in the industry by choice vs necessity. Granted they are targeting ads of women who they think are being coerced but I can't help but think that this very unbalanced picture of the industry perpetuates all the negative stereotypes. They refer to all the ladies they meet as victims. Overall the show is pretty much what I thought it would be... if it helps get some women who are being coerced out of the business then great but I think it actually does more harm than good. If sex work was legal the ability to coerce people in the industry would be reduced. Just my Opinion Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnybird 4391 Report post Posted April 18, 2015 I've only seen the second episode, missed the first one & DVR'd the 3rd one, and I found it very heartbreaking to watch, I am aware that stuff like this goes on but just seeing the expressions on some of these women's faces and the stories they had to tell really was breaking my heart. There's something I didn't understand about this show, maybe they explained it on the first show I missed and maybe someone here can clarify it for me. Why only 8 minutes? The former cop/pastor says that after the first 8 minutes the situation starts getting dangerous... why? And why would there be a danger of the pimp coming and knocking the door to the room before the paid time was up? What was also concerning is them airing these women on TV without them wanting too, I know the ones that are showing their faces had to sign a release so it was their choice, but the ones that had their face blurred while on camera obviously wouldn't give them permission. If you've known a person for a while it would be pretty easy to identify them when you see the way they walk, their mannerisms & especially their voices. So wouldn't that even put them in more danger with their pimps/traffickers? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78396 Report post Posted April 18, 2015 What was also concerning is them airing these women on TV without them wanting too, I know the ones that are showing their faces had to sign a release so it was their choice, but the ones that had their face blurred while on camera obviously wouldn't give them permission. If you've known a person for a while it would be pretty easy to identify them when you see the way they walk, their mannerisms & especially their voices. So wouldn't that even put them in more danger with their pimps/traffickers? I agree... even if I accept the premise that the individuals behind this show are doing it for all the right reasons I still can't help but think they are placing some of these ladies in very difficult positions...all for ratings??? Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S****r Report post Posted April 18, 2015 That's right. Even if one has a pimp, the pimp would not be coming in before the paid time was up. I am sure it is all about setting up tension for the viewer, fitting it into the alloted time for the show. In other words, to gather viewers, and make money. No different than other reality shows in that respect. But so disrespectful to the women they are meeting. If all they really wanted to do was help, there would be no tv show following them. They are making money off the women's backs. Hey, isn't that what they hate about pimps? Shameful and despicable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78396 Report post Posted April 18, 2015 That's right. Even if one has a pimp, the pimp would not be coming in before the paid time was up. I am sure it is all about setting up tension for the viewer, fitting it into the alloted time for the show. In other words, to gather viewers, and make money. No different than other reality shows in that respect. But so disrespectful to the women they are meeting. If all they really wanted to do was help, there would be no tv show following them. They are making money off the women's backs. Hey, isn't that what they hate about pimps? Shameful and despicable. I kinda think that in these types of situations you really only get to help someone once they feel they can trust you and being ambushed by a TV crew might get a lady to respond by either leaving immediately or playing along because she does not want to be portrayed in a negative light... she has no time to think this through the "pastor" who she thinks is a client gets her talking about her personal life ie child in protective services, drug use etc before he is honest so if she does not accept help she knows she will look bad. Why not off cam meet lady be immediately open about situation and then if lady wishes help start rolling. The same right wing conservatives that would support this type of show would also trumpet personal rights and the need to allow people to choose for themselves even if it might be perceived a bad choice by society... they would probably be against government money being spent on this type of program but are fine with trampling on rights if it is private industry and there is money to be made. All that said this is just the type of voyeuristic programing that is very popular so I would not expect it to go away. Just my Opinion Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 19, 2015 Most real support orgs agree this whole premise is fake. you do as someone mentioned need time to build a rapport. also here is some reason to distrust te idea theyactually help anyone. there are about 500 beds total for such "rescues"provided by rescue orgs in the entire countr. i find it hrd to imagine they are the one org that has real solutions in place. no one has indicated who is paying the sp's bills during this time either. they dont mention they pay sp $200 do they? that came up in a comment i read. the comment was removed from the AE article about the show on their site. hey dont show te ones who refuse help as well because it isnt good tv. not only would they be outed to frends or neighbours even if blurred my guess is a few of them also get arrested. the show is a gift to LE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnybird 4391 Report post Posted April 19, 2015 Mno one has indicated who is paying the sp's bills during this time either. they dont mention they pay sp $200 do they? that came up in a comment i read. the comment was removed from the AE article about the show on their site. hey dont show te ones who refuse help as well because it isnt good tv. not only would they be outed to frends or neighbours even if blurred my guess is a few of them also get arrested. the show is a gift to LE Actually in the episode I saw, after the pastor told her who he was he did tell her "I'm paying you for your time, the $150" or something like that, and he did lay the money on the night stand. In that same episode there was someone who refused help and left as well. I agree with you though, I would imagine it would take some time to build a rapport but then again maybe some of these women are in such desperate need to get out of a bad situation that they are willing to take a chance. So difficult to imagine being in situation like that, must be horrifying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78396 Report post Posted April 20, 2015 Actually in the episode I saw, after the pastor told her who he was he did tell her "I'm paying you for your time, the $150" or something like that, and he did lay the money on the night stand. In that same episode there was someone who refused help and left as well. I agree with you though, I would imagine it would take some time to build a rapport but then again maybe some of these women are in such desperate need to get out of a bad situation that they are willing to take a chance. So difficult to imagine being in situation like that, must be horrifying. I'm certainly not against helping any lady who wants out but I do have some concerns about the process and they obviously don't show every interaction so there is no balance in what they do show Just my Opinion Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnybird 4391 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not sure if this is the link you are referring too Amber, but I came across it last night. This site is a Group blog run by sex workers: http://titsandsass.com/did-8-minutes-lie-to-sex-workers/#more-19639 This is an excerpt of the twitter feed of the sex worker, Kamylia, that they are talking about and her experience with the show: https://storify.com/EscortingAdvice/the-grim-truth-of-how-the-rescue-industry-hurts-vi She seems to be legit but you never know I wish I could find the link but I can't seem to anymore, but apparently what happens after is nothing. They don't get them the help if they ask for, it's all for show. Apparently one of the ladies on the show posted a plea for the help that they said they would give, and had been arrested and was in a bad place after and even after calling the show they still never gave her the promised help. It's not a show I could possibly recommend, they don't actually care for these women or if they get the help they need. (I'll keep looking for the source to this!) Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
