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I received ANOTHER PM from a member who was concerned because GOOGLE indexes cerb.ca. He says that his significant other has ways to "find" his ALIAS on cerb and thinks we should block the search engines from indexing cerb. Well... if your S/O can figure out your alias on cerb you allowed this to happen - it has NOTHING to do with google or cerb! Basically if this happens you were sloppy! He was obviously doing something he should not have been doing and got caught (Probably a tech savvy S/O) ... and now looking to put the blame on someone or something instead of himself. This happens with the LADIES just as much as the guys. The ladies do something foolish and allow people in their personal life to EASILY find them online working as an escort (and that causes PANIC for many and a headache for me as they want me to delete all traces of them on cerb) - after the fact this is pointless!! Everything that should be indexed by google (and other search engines) is. We block access to the PRIVATE sections (SP ONLY, COUNCIL, ETC...) and we hide your IP address's and Emails on your profiles. The PUBLIC part of the site is indexed and cerb runs a very good SEO system that ensures everything is available and indexed on google and other search engines. Why? This brings us traffic, allows new members to find cerb, allows the ladies to find us and it is a very important part of the site. It also pays the bills! This site is FREE for you all to use but nothing in this world is FREE. Your posts are indexed with the search engines and are considered "Content" and this content on google and other search engines creates links to cerb.ca. In turn our sponsors (All the advertisers here and escorts-canada and other sites we own get traffic from cerb and traffic is money). This is a business after all and it may be a free site for you all to use but the reason this site exists is to generate traffic and feed traffic to the people who pay for this site (The people who make this site free for everyone who uses it). These days if your sites are not listed on google... your nobody and nobody will find you! As of today we have 91700 listings on google alone! This brings THOUSANDS of people to cerb every day! Thousands of people who would not have found cerb without these listings. We can not hide things from google to keep them from your significant others. If you are sneaking around doing something you should not then your on your own to protect yourself. What can you do to keep your identity and actives private? 1) I would suggest you use a username that no one could associate with you. 2) Erase your cookies. history and temporary internet files everytime you are done using the internet 3) Check your computer for stuff like keystroke loggers (as it's common for SO's to use these things if they suspect you of doing things you should not). They act as trojans and quietly sit in the background and log every button you push on your keyboard.... any tech savvy 12 year old kid knows how to do this and you can now buy USB thumb drives that make it possible for ANYONE to do this with very little knowledge of how a computer works. 4) Don't post anything too personal. Ladies this goes for you as well. If you use your PERSONAL cell phone for business it will be INDEXED On google and your friends can GOOGLE your cell number and find your ads. Don't be foolish, invest in a WORK PHONE and keep your private life private! 5) If your name is "Richard Henry John" and you choose a alias here like "R.H.J" or "DickH" or "Rich john" your asking to be identified. This is just silly to do and you would be surprised how many people do this. **** The reason we use Alias's is so that your posts and activities on these sites are anonymous. We hide your IP and Email from public (Keeping your id private). Q: Is cerb really FREE? A: No, Nothing is Free. Q: How can you run CERB for free? A: This site is a BUSINESS and is here to make money. It costs TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars to run this site each year. Someone has to pay for that! You don't pay for using cerb and the handful of banner advertisers help but don't cover the cost of the servers per year let alone my salary! It appears free to you but your posts are content and your visits are traffic. Content = Search engine listings Search engine listings = Traffic Traffic = Money! This site is FREE to use for all of you and in return you are giving us your time, contributions and traffic. Someone has to pay the bills and in this "virtual" world website traffic is what pays the bills. Hard to imagine but that is how it works. The more traffic cerb.ca gets the more traffic it's sponsors receive (Advertisers on the site). This is how we pay for the site. If we made the site inaccessible from google and other search engines we would have no traffic, We would have no content, We would have no members, We would have nothing of value and we would have no computers and bandwidth to run the site. Bottom line we would have no business. I don't work for free (Shocking isn't it) I am PAID to run this website. I have other duties that involved things other then this website but at least 1/2 of my salary is to maintain cerb. The servers that run cerb, the bandwidth, the custom programming, license fee's, the chat room, etc... all cost money (You would be SHOCKED to know those costs!). My point here is that for every 10 visitors we get from google at least 1 of them end up visiting escorts-canada.com (The website that pays the bills for cerb) It's all about the math. Search engine math? Basically 5000 visitors per day is worth 100 grand a year. If you were to PURCHASE traffic from other sites (and that is not easy as a lot of sites DO NOT allow "Adult" related sites to buy advertising) it would cost a MINIMUM of .06 cents per visitor. (5000 X $.06) X 365 days a year = $109'500.00 We send a few thousand visitors to EC per day from cerb so our budget is no where near 100 grand but one day it may be!! So keep posting and spreading the word. Out budget here is based on this. (Traffic sent to EC X RATE .03) X 365 days a year = $BUDGET Notice the RATE is .03 and not .06 - If it was .06 it would be simply smarter to just purchase the traffic. If you can build your own traffic that cost 1/2 of what it would cost you to purchase the same traffic... it's a SMART business decision! (And is why cerb exists today).

May i ask where you advertising before cerb as reference is not new to Calgary and i would say that at least 50% of ladies require it.I can only assume that you were working for an agencies that didn't have BYlaws as a concern. I don't understand where you don't see the logic of reference check?Do you care to enlight me? I think that newbie should be aware of the many reasons why sps ask for reference or other form of verifications first to the misbelieve of many..It is not legalize... And hosting an incall is illegal Second each province have their own regulations when it comes to escorts on Alberta it is strongly reinforce to have a escort license(only good for outcall) Other provinces like Manitoba,Nova scotia do have a bylaw that is concern about escorts..There where bust happen Second reason why a lady would like a reference...It is to know if you are indeed a reliable person,not dangerous,not shorting ladies An other reason of reference is to see if you are indeed compatible I welcome newbie without reference but will verify them in an other way. I don't judge the girls that don't bother to ask reference but i personnally do not wish to expose myself to face the laws,neither than been rip off or assault. I also became selective of who accept reference from as some ladies pretty much take any requests randomly and don't even know who they have seen or not . In the area where i require references i can attest that the number of ncns i have is minimum to none I start in the USA where verifying gents is the norm and when i start working in Canada i remember how for some it was completly news for them to have to provide any sort of informations...Over the time it has become more the norm as more escorts,populations has grow are now working and travelling and aware that even though canada is more open that there is still risks involve VJ

First off, your thoughts towards how other ladies conduct their business really stinks. Why are you so negative towards the rest of us? Considering that this is an industry where you really cannot afford to have enemies and we should all be helping one another to stay safe. If you don't like how some ladies conduct their business please keep it to yourself. It is my choice to screen and verify who I visit with as it is yours to book by phone. If someone does not have a reference, they can be screened in other ways. so if they are new to the hobby they can still plan a visit. The logic behind it is to keep you safe plain and simple. If you want to allow anyone in your personal space go right on ahead, I won't knock you for it nor will I tell you how to run your business. Would you not feel better knowing that because you took 5 mins to check a reference that you could have prevented a bad date from happening? Why would another lady ask you to vouch for a client, for the same reason her safety. I do not know where your negative thoughts on other "why would I trust another lady to send me a good client" I am not sending you a client I am vouching for his character. Not all ladies are vendictive and mean. References and verification are starting to become the norm.

This was the first chance I've had to see Miss Voyeur this year. She was my late Christmas present to myself. I've been seeing her for 18 months now and she continues to tease the heck out of me when giving me a massage. Not only is she gorgeous but she's also a great talker. The only thing I don't like is having to say good-bye. I look forward to each and every visit.

I love the chat room. My goal is to meet as many members as possible and get to know what makes them tic! You will never see me solicit, you will never see me harass, you will never see me go outside the boundaries. I have no problem answering questions about myself, my services etc... but... I expect in return.... Do not ask me to show my face nor any nudity on cam and if my cam is not on, it's for a reason. Do not request a private chat in order to get online sex talk. Do not try to negotiate with me based on what you believe to be a lesser service. Do not ask me for more pics...I do have albums, don't be so lazy. Sorry if anyone feels that I have disrespected them. In the open chat we all have a fab time but there are limits. I love private chat until it becomes apparent that someone is just using me for jerk off material. Please keep chat the fun place that it is! Today at lunch time it was an absolute blast!!!!

Sorry but I still don't understand why this little mix-up of personal/work life would be immoral in any way. I can understand it making you uncomfortable, but I can't see how it would be immoral in any way. My morals are dictated by what helps/hurts people. Hurting people is bad. Helping people is good. I guess I'm just simple like that :) Obviously this situation, no one way hurt, the lady and you were helped and benefitted (as did her little one). So what's the big deal? Forgive me for hypothesizing, but I find that a lot of men have underlying guilt that they are somehow doing something wrong by seeing a sex worker. The media and second-wave feminists love to paint us as victims, and I'm sure that is something clients can't ignore, even if it's furthest from the truth. Rest assured you did nothing wrong.

Although the OP did not a actually ask a question in his post, it can be assumed that he is indeed looking for information on how to go about getting a reference from a SP. One thing I did note that could potentially be a concern is the personal information that OP provides to the SP that he wants to see. Of course, 99.8% of the ladies on CERB are upstanding and there is no reason to have concerns about their integrity. There is however, a small percentage of ladies that could possibly use some personal information that the OP may divulge to harm him in some way should the relationship turn bad. Be very careful about any identifying and personal information that you may provide. Although this is a very small concern, I feel that it is something that should be pointed out to anyone that may be new and not be aware of what could possibly happen. The following I have taken from another post that I made in another similar thread and modified it to suit the OP's question. As a new member with no references and very few postings, it can be difficult to see the occasional SP if they request one. When I started a few years ago, I was in exactly the same situation. I read the boards thoroughly for about 3 months to absorb all the information and techniques for how to approach this hobby. Although you don't need to read for that long, I would suggest reading quite a lot in the beginning, especially the newbies section, the sticky's and learn all that you can, it will pay off in spades down the road. After you have a good feel how CERB works and have a good feel for things, find a good quality lady to see that does not require a reference, I suggest one that has good recommendations here, you are attracted to and meets any other requirements you have. Note any requirements she has for contact, meeting, donations, etc. and follow them. Be polite when you contact her, be very clear in what you are looking for and understand what she is offering in a session. When you have found the girl you want, book a session, make sure you are very well groomed, dressed nicely, polite and friendly when you meet. Arrive a few minutes early if you are going to see her, and follow her rules (phone or text when you are near, etc) for contact, be very discrete if you are seeing her at her hotel or incall. When you get to her door, knock quietly and wait, it will seem like a long time, but it is not, lol. When the door opens, she will likely be behind it and poke her head out....smile and quietly say, "hi", and in you go. After the session, if you had a great time, take a few minutes and post a recommendation on CERB of your experience. The next thing you should do is contribute to the board whenever you can with accurate and positive information. Become a regular contributor, the girls will read and note your posts and your recommendation will be noted in memory of future girls that you see. Build a good, solid reputation as a great guy for the ladies to see and as a good contributor to CERB. If you do the above, you will be able to use many of the girls that you have seen for a reference. Before using a lady as a reference, make sure you ask them and have their approval. You may want to BCC the lady that is the reference the information that you send to the lady seeking the reference so that she is fully aware of what you have sent. This could prevent some possible miscommunication between the ladies in question. If you do the above, it will take you a long way to seeing the ladies that request a reference and you will be able to provide one with ease and confidence. After some time, your reputation may precede you and in some cases you may not be asked for a reference even though the lady states that she needs one. I hope the above may help you in your endeavour to see some of these fine ladies. namssa

The "catch 22" question....How to get references when you don't have any references to give! Many sp's require them, and it seems even more common for the travelling girls. I suspect that this is not only for safety reasons, but also to make sure that the hobbyist is actually someone who is likely to show up and not waste their valuable and limited time. Many of the local girls don't require this. Having a good reputation here and getting to know them a bit through cerb helps too. Hope this helps. Good luck ;)