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I think that cerb is more than just a recommendation board where people come to look at pretty ladies, read reviews, exchange information. It has grown to become a loving and caring community where we share much more than above. It is a community where we share our happiness and pleasures as well as our sadness and pains and our thoughts and views on various subjects. We are like a family (at least that is how I would like to look at it) and just like a family when one member is happy we all are happy for that member and when one is in pain, we all feel the pain. My 2 cents.

Compassion, solidarity and support are not only meant to be for those we have feelings for or have met in person. There's no rules about who one cares for, that is based on one's personality. As for what you are 'allowed' to ask an SP during an encounter that depends on many factors like chemistry, things in common, etc. she may actually share some personal things with you or/and vice versa. If you are the kind that wants conversation as part of the date then the key is to communicate with the ladies you are interested in visiting beforehand and get a sense on what you can expect. Finally, 'we' are not expected to care about anything and is not a request here. Everyone is free to participate in the forum as much or little as they want. We expect respect to whatever of those 2 people choose to do that's all.

This morning while I drink my coffee and read the boards here, I?m struck by how many complaints we have about the guys who take advantage of some aspect of our services and then treat us badly. There are active discussions about men who: Try to negotiate or bargain clearly-stated non-negotiable fees Try to pay less than the agreed fee after they arrive Try to get services that were not agreed on before the date Complain about our screening questions Don?t bother to take a shower, brush their teeth or trim their nails before seeing us Assume that we're likely to rob them Threaten to write bad reviews and/or aren?t believed when they write good ones Insult us, our need for safety and even our looks when we don?t give in to what they demand No one is forced to read our ads and websites, look at our photos, contact us, discuss our services with us, or meet with us. It?s all voluntary and initiated by the client. The client has needs, feelings, preferences and curiosity, but why do so many refuse to take responsibility for themselves? What they express as anger, self-righteous indignation and personal entitlement is really projected self-hatred. I want to sit these men down and say: If you don?t want to see a paid companion, don?t do it. If you decide to seek out a companion, that's your decision. What you want is not what everyone else may want. That?s usually a wonderful thing. Recognize that we?re not like cheap candy that you can buy daily. We?re more like fine dining to be enjoyed occasionally. Plan accordingly. If someone?s prices are too high for you, either wait until you can afford her, or find someone else. Meanwhile, don't blame her for your lack of funds. Recognize that she charges what the market will bear. That means that there are plenty of others who can afford to see her. Always be polite and considerate. No matter what. Even if you feel confused, disappointed or insulted, be polite. Remember that companions are human beings, just like you. We have needs, desires, dreams and things we?re worried about or afraid of, just as you do. We will protect both your health and our own. Fair is fair. If you're worried about your safety, know that she's concerned about her safety, too. No matter who or how important you are or think you are, the one who is taking the most risks is always the companion. Always. Relax.

Ok, so this is going to make me sound like a huge downer and/or bitch, but all of the personal stories as of late are totally out of place on this board. Right now, we have threads about one member having cancer, another about a member's addiction recovery, and of course, all of the threads about bareback anything/sex education (no, they are not personal stories, but I'll get to why this bothers me in a second). So, why am I bothered by such threads? NO ONE COMES HERE TO READ ABOUT YOUR LIFE. This is not a self-help forum. Yes, I am sad to hear that you're doing poorly, yes I hope you recover/get better/learn to become less socially inept/insert positive comment here about whatever your issue is. But let's get real, this is an ESCORT RECOMMENDATION BOARD. People come here to look at pretty ladies, read reviews, exchange information etc. There are places for your personal stories (Chicken Soup for the Cerbite's Soul) etc. The threads about sexual health piss me off because they just create moral panics about sex workers spreading STI's, AND because while there is no specific forum regarding health concerns or info for the general members (there is one for the SP's), there is an entire section titled "NEW TO THIS? THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW" and frankly, info about STI's and shit should go in there. And just stop posting about bareback services. We all know some SP's do it, and some provide certain bb services such as BBBJ, and that's their preference. Resurrecting these debates on CERB really does just create more panic and more stigma. Let's try to remember what the point of this board is before you post your personal shit. While many will post "oh, that's terrible, my thoughts are with you," most of them don't care, don't mean it, and wish they were watching porn. If you have become close with certain members and wish to inform them about something in your life that you think they might want or need to know, send them a PM! Don't post a huge thread in the general forums about it. OR put the post in a more appropriate location such as the Chicken Soup for the Cerbites Soul, etc. There are some things that are best kept to yourself! If I were a dude looking for an escort, I certainly wouldn't want to come to CERB to read about cancer, people dying, drug addictions, and how dangerous bareback services are. Also, I am not trying to offend those people who posted their personal stories; I'm not heartless. I agree that people should get to know each other, but seriously, could we keep it lighter? Lately CERB has been all gloom and doom.

I know the term "hobbiest" seems to be popular on this board, but I find many of us have struggled with what to call the men in this hobby. I've traditionally called them "clients." They fit the definition: pay for and receive service. But this term sounds so cold and I don't think it truly captures the closeness and intimacy that is shared. Is a "client" who comes to see me the same as a "client" who buys computer software? Of course not! About 6 months ago one of my friends asked me: "What time is your last patient?" as she was looking to meet me for a coffeee. I laughed and asked her: "What do you mean, patients?" She couldn't think of what to call them! At first I thought it was silly, but I liked it and it has stuck. So those of you who see me, you'll be (happy?) to know that I refer to you as my "patient." I care for you and make sure you leave happier and healthier than when you arrived. I hope this little anecdote sparks some interesting conversation.

here I was out of touch for a few days and this thread blows me away..... I am speechless.......stunned... I debated saying anything.......and yet there is so much to say...... But I read every post.....and I usually read every thread.....and if I do not like it I move on..... reading a thread about not liking to read threads is...well..just a little odd.....but I still read it.... why? because it gives me incite to peoples thought patterns and personalities.....some I like..some I don't like.....and by getting to know some people I decide if we are at all compatible for friends or an intimate encounter........or to just not get involved with. so I decide what to read and what not to read......and if I am upset....so what..it is only a forum.......

I guess if you really wanted to be clandestine you cold carry in/out a pair of pants on a hanger in plastic :)

Hello everyone, I will be visiting Ottawa in early June and if I may say one thing about myself it is I am very fit. I have dedicated my life ( pretty much to fitness) I am a runner and former competitive bobybuilder. I have a very toned buff body with abs while still maintaining a lady like shape.

Oh no worries, I knew you weren't directing it at me specifically, but I did get a warning for this thread, so....perhaps I should follow my own advice, and think before I post. Hahaha.

Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I wouldn't bother emailing her. No sense in making an big issue out of a "little thing". lol

Dear Doctor Gabby, As your gentleman and your temporary lover,I truly enjoy being your guest of honor and companion for the patient care that I do need time to time. Thanks Doc, I sincerely "enjoy time well spent" with you ;) Pete

^^^Girlfriend to me means long-term, but I like the term "date".

I have been guilty of this behavior too, where it cost me 7 days in the Cerb slammer. No this is not a personal story,just true facts.....lol ;) I have just finished reading this thread, and along the way some words/tones may of come across harsh that is however the power of words. I certainly need practice more often when trying to express myself as I can come across sarcastic,possibly humorous,serious,pissed off, so now I try to wait and reflect on the subject on hand. I'm not stating that anyone who has posted in this thread is coming across harsh or deserves any kind of retribution at all. Both sides have very good merit in this thread. When there is something that means very little to myself,I simply skip through it, I have joined just about every social group going,and may throw my comments in there. I do agree with Berlin's last statement PR is what is at stake, not for me, but for those ladies that us men seek out. Personally lately that is where I do most of my surfing on the site(seeking out women),but I will jump in at a thread that interests myself. Anyways my fellowship (thanks WIT I like that) if you are reading my post, take the time a watch this video, it really gets the point across of 'The Power Of Words' Happy Easter everyone :)

Lol... if only politics doesn't affect EVERYTHING. and if only the elections didn't affect the upcoming ruling on prostitution... then maybe political discussions would be irrelevant to CERB...

Kubrickfan, you bring up a good point but medicare is an institution north of the border. What is more surprising to me on this thread is the Harper-bashing and comparisons to the right-wing U.S. In my mind, and having travelled extensively throughout Canada and the States, the Conservative Party is more like the Democrats in the States - we don't have a comparable party to the Republicans. In fact, every party in this country is very centric, saying that we have left or right wing parties is really not true and I personally don't think there will be any difference no matter who is in power. The changes in this country over the last 30 years are due to 3 main factors in my view and they have nothing to do with the ruling party. -- the obsessive pursuit of power through politics by business leaders and academics -- the obscene amount of money paid to C-level executives compared to the average worker (in 1980, the ratio of executive pay to the average worker was about 50:1, today it's more like 350:1). People who think that they're worth that much more than the average person are on some power trip, imo. -- the power of the unions who demanded more and more for their members until jobs eventually got outsourced to more "economically viable" locations. One only needs to look at the federal government jobs here in Ottawa to realize that unions have run amok in this country - having protected jobs that anyone can do and having those jobs provide pensions and health care benefits that most of us can only dream about is wrong. There are thousands of Canadians that would take those jobs at 25% less pay and balance the equilibrium to a fair market economy. If the federal civil service was part of the free market economy, they would end up like GM, Ford and Chrysler unionists - they'd quickly find out that what they do can be done for much less by people who are just as qualified. The common theme to the problems is not right-wing or left-wing, it's greed and, in my view, Iggy, Harper, Jack, Duceit, or May are all in it for their own power-hungry purposes - not for you or me. That's my 2 cents, I don't see a change no matter which box my pencil happens to X on election day...... but I'll vote Conservative just because I want a majority party and stop this effin' nonsense of elections every 2 years and watching the grown-up children pander for my vote.

Wow. Brutal thread. Not something I expected to see here. I think if we did a thread count, the personal stuff would be a teeny tiny minority of the things discussed here. There's still plenty of money-for-sex talk for those who want it. But if that was ALL that I found here, I wouldn't stick around very long - I guess I'd just pay brief visits whenever my blood was up. I don't come here primarily to read about other members' personal lives, but I'm happy when I see that some people are comfortable enough to post something about themselves they're feeling strongly about at the moment. The place *is* a community. There's lots of room for everyone, and people who don't appreciate talk outside certain narrow boundaries are free to skip the threads they don't like. And to me, the modest number of personal discussions here serve a valuable function: they humanize both clients and SPs, proving you can sell sex and pay for sex yet still be a thinking, feeling, sometimes intelligent person with a wealth of other interests. And as fellow human beings, some other clients and SPs might actually be interested in hearing what you have to say, and helping out a bit, even if it's not about our dicks and "titties". In that respect, part of those threads' value is *precisely* that they're on an escort recommendation board. I wouldn't want those discussions to dominate the board, but in their current proportion I find them not just tolerable, they actually make the place more human.

Ya. you four ladies are right. This Cerb site is strictly about Sex and Titties I guess is how you worded it ! Oops ! I forgot about my penis for a second here and there and had fun and enjoyed reading posts or sharing some things with people or felt some feelings for someone or tried to help them when they were down. Bad Me !!

Berlin I respect your point of view but was it necessary to be so harsh? I know some here don't care for the community feeling and just visit the site for specific purposes and that is fine. Nobody is obligated to read these personal threads and nobody is forbidden from posting more sexual oriented threads. So in my opinion those who are not interested in reading personal stuff can move on to the next thread after reading the title or the first couple of lines. Those who are only here to contact ladies have the option to click on the announcement section and skip the rest, that's why the site is divided by sections, to make this easier. I have read posts from most active members (ladies & gents) that involve personal issues or experiences so I'm surprised to see a complaint from ladies about this. We don't have a particular group for let's say jokes and nobody has complaint for seeing them in the main index. I don't really care a lot about them (no offense to the posters) but I just skip them same way any thread can be skipped by those not interested. I agree with Secret Admirer we should be more supportive to each other as one day it may be you who will need from the rest (I'm not saying you in particular.) I mean one can be on the other side any minute and yes some ladies have SP access but not all and the guys don't have a private area and yes there's the groups but again the general section is to bring up any kind of topics. As far as I know there's no rule that says otherwise.

Perhaps there should be a group started here where all members and posts are anon., for support. I know there are a trillion "groups/forums" out there but I know there are some folks who get support from where they feel most comfortable, and there are some who feel that way here. Having the posts and members be hidden allows one to be very very honest. Anyway just a thought.

At this point in time I do not believe there is a Conservative Party. But there is a Harper Party. Well, maybe later. Lets start with a personal photo gallery. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=9c6b53f6-f0a2-4eca-93bb-559023144731

This thread follows a question asked in another one in the general forum (http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=48326&page=3). SP ONLY AREA is ours to communicate the most confidentially possible. It is not for you guys to follow up our observations about some of you. It is ours and ours only. No need to ask, and as for myself, if you ask me, I will consider it as a breach to my intimacy, and into our safety. Please, do respect this and not bring it up. It's rude and unsafe. Oh, and please, if an SP talks to you about it, please report her immediatly, since she may do it with the wrong person. ThXxX!