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I'd be careful about that one & how you go about communicating. If it's through email introduce yourself & let them know what your looking for in services & personality. But don't email constant as many girls will start to think your just wasting time & want to only chat. You can always call & ask if they have some time to talk. Once again talking to a person gets a better feel of a person's personality. Some girls won't discuss services over the phone, so be sure to read their ads & their website if they have one. Lots of time just from reading an ad or website you'll find the do's & don'ts about how they prefer to communicate with a potential new client. Your not wrong for wanting some communication before hand. A responsible provider should also know who she is allowing into her incall location. It's easy to turn down a client just from his approach & if at all there's a sense of we are not going to hit it off. I myself know I'd rather say no to an appointment then go through an hour with someone I feel no connection with.

I state on my voice mail to please leave a time frame in which to return a call. A lot of times the time frame is so short like a half hour & I'm busy for an hour or two. I like Nicolette after a certain amount of time am wary I might call at a not so discreet time. I leave it up to the fella to call back. Which I do believe is also mentioned on my voice mail to try back in an hour or so. I've returned calls to fella's some calling them long distance only to be told they've found someone else. Well alrighty then. Maybe a call back to me leaving me another message saying no need to call back might have helped an uncomfortable return call. As Emily has said lot's of times a girl can have a very busy day & not even have time to check her voice mail or emails & someone else has called when she was able to finally answer the phone & taken another booking. But do refrain from excessive calling. Today drove me nuts looking through my call log when I went to turn ringer back on & there were calls from two different #'s that called almost every two to five minutes for an hour. Like come on,lol. Leave a message. After that when they called I stared at my phone debating on answering it. Not answering won in that debate. Always best to book in advance even a few hours if you know your venturing out for the day. But 6 wow & not a single one answered or returned a call. I'm sure there are some girls out there that don't care about discretion & how long it took for them to return your call. I won't mention names but I one time called another girl, I didn't leave a message cause it wasn't urgent & about 15 minutes later I got a call back from her saying, "someone called me from this number". Obviously does that with everyone I'm sure. I was quit shocked to say the least.

I used to let initial contact be texts. But after having so many tire kickers, each wasting a hh to an hour with responding back & forth. Once I wanted that confirmation call to confirm & get location all communication stopped. I could have been doing more productive things then having my time wasted. Emailing me with your hundred texts questions is much easier & less time consuming. The first call to check availability can take about 3-5 minutes. Then the confirmation call a whole minute. It saves time, gets you here faster. When I used to allow texting I'd be answering sometimes 5 different inquires at once. So my response time isn't right away as a phone call is. Hearing someone on the other end of the phone gives you a feel of the person. Like others have said "how do you know your talking to an adult or even a male" I do allow texts from prior fella's I've met or as an initial contact well traveling to save them the long distance call to make the appointment. But they still do have to call to confirm & get location. It may work well for others in other cities, but here I find there are a lot of time wasters. You know who the serious ones are. The ones that have read ad/website. Know your rates & the time's you work. The others that don't take the time to say just read a 500 character BP ad & text when it boldly says not to are the ones I don't make any time for. We all run our business our own ways, but I think giving your location to someone you've never spoken to is very risky (here in Winnipeg) & not being discreet at all. I only see men 30+ or if they are a few years from it & have called & are polite I'll make an exception. But they must follow the way I prefer to take a booking. Most of the time it's the young ones texting so it's easy enough to ignore. I never discuss, rates or services on the phone either. I like to get to know a potential client when calling & if they are serious about meeting me they will take the time to read all my ad's, website, & reviews before contacting me. When they call all they need to ask is if I'm available. I like getting a phone call when a man addresses me by my name & tells me who he is what type of appointment & for how long he's looking for. The ones that call & say "hey how's it going? You available?" My response is usually "excuse me" I hear them get flustered "is this Holly" . If they had just asked for me, & asked how I was & if I had any available time, it gets you an appointment & here faster. I can kick tires too if I feel someone is just playing around. I am all business with the polite ones. This thread was about texts vs phoning. But keep in mind when calling too, the first words out of your mouth make an impression on us. Well me anyway.

Wishing all you very Sexy Ladies & Handsome Gentlemen a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. May all be happy & healthy in 2013 :) xo Holly

Only shows up on a phone bill if it's long distance. Don't know what phone service you use but I've never had a call show up on my bill even before I went paperless. Most men use prepayed cell's for seeing sp only phones. I have to disagree about emails & texts. I stopped texts because 99% were wot's. Only prior clients are allowed to text for appointments as I know they are legit. Emails same thing too. Can get a long winded, tells their description right down to their shoe size & want an appointment for such & such a day & no confirmation call. Hmmm yup those two seem to be working well. Having a person call you get a sense of their personality as well they can get the same of us in return. How is a SP to know that the person emailing/texting is a man or even legal age. There's young teenagers out there that like to play games. Please don't start the debate on telling someone they are going to lose potential clients because she wants a phone call. If someone is a serious hobbyist they won't have a problem phoning to confirm & get incall location, something I don't think is proper giving out to someone you've never spoken to. If they don't want to call they are likely clients not worth seeing. My opinion though, maybe some other ladies will add to how they feel about a phone call & how important it is to them.

Whats next, you hacking into my online banking & seeing how much money I have or as you say don't have? I never said to you I needed money. Not once did those words even come out of my mouth, or should I say a text when you offered to come prepay. You said you had a busy weekend & wouldn't be able to get away. I said sure it wasn't necessary but if thats what you want & to take your time bringing it I was out shopping. I have the text/texts to prove it too. I told you from the word go this was an SP/Hobbyist relationship. You just overstepped boundaries & made me push you away. I've told you in an email I'm not like this person your causing me to be, but you really make me feel like I'm losing my mind. Even since I had first stopped seeing you in the summer, you still persisted in emailing & refering to yourself in the email "it's the guy you hate". Real nice, how is something like that supposed to make me feel. I don't hate anyone but the guilt in your emails made me feel horrible when I wouldn't respond. I tried again & stated the rules, that this was strictly business, but it is blatantly obvious it was more then that for you. I really wish you can eventually see the stress & anxiety you caused me daily in the last two weeks of just letting you back as a client. My bad. I've learned. I fully intend on going about business as usual & watching for any signs of someone potentially falling. I don't need this & will end any future sp/client relationships asap if it occurs again.

It wasn't lost money. He was told to come & get it. He's having a fit cause I don't want to have the appointment with him. I just want him to leave me alone.

Why don't you just tell the real truth instead of spreading lies? You wanted to bring me money for a prepaid appointment. I wasn't short on cash. You have sneaky little ways of trying to get into my space. You've harassed me daily well before any of this. I told you to come & get your money cause I didn't want to see you again. Asking me if I want you to drive me to Brandon & you'd stay there for two days with me pushed me over the edge, & once I was home on the Wednesday I told you to come get your money. You forgot to mention that when dropping off money you stayed an hour sitting here, even after I told you I wasn't in the mood to visit with you. Which after all your viciousness towards me I told you I was going to be charging you my social rate for sitting your ass down & staying an hour uninvited. You bring it drop it off & leave, not hang out. Technically a charge for the other time you came for an appointment & seen I had a cancellation so you stated great, I can stay longer now. Really another hour & half on top of your appointment should have taken care of the remainder, but I wasn't charging you for that. Your pretty presumptuous thinking that I enjoy your company that much! You contact me daily, approach me in public while I'm with my son. You've asked me for services I don't provide, text me you love me, we should go on a date & neck, that your only going to go to the casino to see if I'm there, amongst more. I could go on for day's. I had to sever ties with you before because of overstepping boundaries with me. I let you back into my space & you get crazed again. I will repeat I told you to pick up the money cause I couldn't bring myself to seeing you again. Your constant emailing, texting & harassment. You've caused me a lot of anxiety & stress. My working is really none of your business. I didn't work when I was sick. I took the day off when I didn't feel well. If I didn't contact you the day I felt better it's because I hadn't thought about you. You'd given me one day of peace without contacting me. Thanks though for acting like a stalker & keeping close tabs on me. You can't seem to read an email when I say don't contact me till you plan to come get your money. You only read don't contact me. Yes here it all is folks. Him threatening to post on cerb, then text another day that he wouldn't be airing dirty laundry. I'm not quit sure what is so fearful about coming to pick up money I offered to put in an envelope & tape to the front door. Zero contact.

Well I can tell some men looking for it it's not located by my cervix. For those that poke deep & make me squeal in pain :(. Then tell me your hitting my G-spot, guess what like I said no where way up there.

Could you possibly have sent that to the poster in a pm with what you can't say? Instead of in a sneaky sort of way saying the rules of the board here are to strict. If anyone was to go through your posting history they'd see almost every third post from you is "Based upon the rules of the board I cannot comment", or something similar. Just saying.

Then those entrepreneurs should understand how we may feel on the subject then. I'm sure they certainly wouldn't want to be having someone telling them what to charge nor negotiating their fee's they charge for whatever business they run. It is upsetting because there will be fella's that will pay these young new comer's their rates & they have yet to establish any reputation or even a review. I find it upsetting as I feel I am undercutting myself. I do enjoy the customer appreciation day's, it has brought new clients that may have not wanted to take the risk of spending a higher rate not knowing if we were going to be able to click. Generally most have come back at my regular rate while others have waited for my monthly special, which is likely all they can afford in their budget. But they all get treated the same regardless of the lower rate. This is because I didn't have them haggling or trying to barter with me over my rates. I chose the rates for the special & I still have to treat that day like every other.

Oh many reputable SP's are just as unhappy about the spamming of ad's with photo's that are stolen or very outdated. The one's that have built a business & reputation, not a fly by night should be pissed off to a certain extent. But if your a good provider & supply a quality service then you'll remain busy at whatever rate's we decide to charge. I don't even move my ad to the top daily anymore, let alone 10 times a day like the spammers. I have a sponsored ad & an auto-repost. Phone rings just the same. Let them spend 2.00 every post & every time they move it to the top. Eventually they'll get sick of paying 20.00 daily with no calls. Unless they are charging bottom of the barrel prices, then they will get the eco-pooner. The one that tries to haggle & negotiate rates. I just ignore those types cause I believe I deserve a raise! Lol. We get all types trying to get us cheaper while you guys are bickering about being to high. Or maybe their plan is to charge high & let the negotiator's haggle them down to what they would have charged but saved themselves the time of being haggled down even from a basic rate that most charge. Perhaps this is their subliminal way of getting what they want for a rate & the guy thinks he's getting a deal. There rates perhaps are even with the rest of us or quit close. I'm curious as to why no one has mentioned the original poster's new rate's.

I have been feeling that way as well. I started out seven or so years ago at 120/hh 180/hr. Seven years later I'm sitting at 150/hh 200/hr. I think its time I gave myself a raise. I'm not a provider that enjoys seeing numerous clients daily. I enjoy having one or two, this way I know I am going to be able to give them my best & they know I'm not tired or sore. I enjoy them more as much as they enjoy me. Traveling takes a toll on me as I will see more client's daily because of the extra expenses. I still see plenty of men not grasping the concept of lowering rates= more clients. Really? That is not always necessarily true. I have a monthly Customer Appreciation day with reduced rates & I don't have my phone blowing up or them breaking down my door. I will see a max of four clients that day. I have sometimes just had only one. It's the rest of the weekend/month they are all calling when my rates aren't discounted. I don't generally need to have an Appreciation Day as I get enough business, but thought I'd show some appreciation to those that have seen me for years & give a new client a chance to see me at a lesser rate. Also Gentlemen, lower rates + more clients= A very tired cranky, sore, flustered woman that is going to start possibly providing poor service by her fourth client. Telling the ladies how to run their business is in very poor taste. Till you've lived a day in a life of a Provider, having to be flexible, see some not so desirable people. Answer endless emails, phone call's. Endless amounts of laundry. Having your home in a clean & tidy manor even if your just not in the mood to clean we still do. Spend an hour getting ready for sometimes a no-show. I could go on for days. We aren't sitting around doing absolutely nothing daily. There's the gym, tanning, manicure/pedicure lingerie shopping, supply shopping. I get up early like I would be going to a 9-5 job to be sure that I'm showered, have my face on for those early morning calls, (which I love the best). Plus as you fella's are calculating the amount we make yearly , your not taking into account the days that our phones can get quiet. Yup definitely time to give myself a raise. I offer a safe GFE. It can be debated that unless I offer bbbj I'm not a true GFE. I still offer all the other acronyms I just prefer to play safe when it comes to bb. Deeper/Emily I admire you for still giving your initial starting rate to your true & trusted clients that helped get you where you are today. Showing appreciation goes a long way :)

Do they still have dancer's over at the Community Hotel? It's been years, but you just never know. Call over there & see if they still have a girl or two dancing. She may not appreciate being approached asking her if she does anything on the side, but invite her to sit down for a drink. It's been known that a few dancer's will do extra's on the side.

That's not cool at all. You should put your name on your photo's. This might detour them from anyone using them again.

Discretion amongst us ladies. We just happened to be mentioning appointments & one had asked me about a certain # because the fella sounded a bit off. Then another I text with daily said she got the same # when I had my appointment canceled. Also forgot to mention he canceled 2 minutes before his appointment with me. You can call it not being discreet if you'd like. Your entitled to that, I call it smart business & weeding out the Wot'ers. If you don't think we aren't going to watch out for each other when someone is purposely playing games your sadly mistaken. I unfortunately had gotten ready for the appointment. Comparing the # saved at least one gal from having to get ready & run to her incall location which is a far hike for her. He didn't call back for address. I suppose I can say the same about the PM function here. Who knows what you guys are pm'ing to each other about the ladies. Telling the juicy details would you say that is less then discreet? No, likely not cause your not going to spend your hard earned dollars to go see a girl that provides unsatisfactory service or is a Wot. We as well have lives outside of this & don't need our time wasted. That's exactly what was happening that day. Time wasted. Don't go thinking or making any assumptions that we sit daily with each & every call to compare #'s.