Kubrickfan

The Pippin revival on Broadway ... Excellent and great reviews.

I'm kinda with Pete on this one ... limited upside and very big downside for the guys. I'm sure I speak for a lot of guys, especially the married and/or committed ones that have a ton to lose (not that the ladies dont either), but there is zip, zero, nada chance I'm giving up my personal information and or pay a fee just to have more "freedom" that already exists on the other forums. Never. Nothing personal, but its never going to happen.

The only reason I could see to do this is if cerb wants to compete for that portion of the guys that want to post more negatives in their reviews. Do you really want that? I would think that most guys get that anyways on the other forums. And Roamingguy has a point about having to keep a fine balance on these things to keep the ladies around.

I have an alternative suggestion ... just drop the "no negative review" policy for a while and see what happens. Just drop it. Maybe not allow reviews from members with less than, lets say, 50 posts to avoid the a*holes if that gets to be a negative problem. I think the culture around here is so different now that its going to be a self correcting thing. Heck, even let the ladies remove (but not edit) a review if its really upsetting to them.

Frankly, I think the whole issue is overstated. I dont see that much of a difference between the reviews of the well established ladies here and on the other main board. A lot of the negatives on the other board are almost in the forms of warnings about really bad experiences and the guys do stand up for the ladies when that is warranted.

Meh. If you choose to take offense and focus on the negative then it is not my problem. I respect your right to express your point of view, but in this case i disagree.

Agreed. It's a great topic, and I don't think you came anywhere close to identifying enough facts to make it personal. The only way I see it as a problem is if the lady in question is a member here on cerb and knows you by your cerb handle. Instead, you identified two stories, one good and one sad, but both worthy of thought.

I have had the good fortune of seeing, and then staying in touch as acquaintances, with a few of the ladies here. I don't get to Ottawa any more (at least for the time being), but I treasure the quick hello messages or quick notes just to catch up. I also had the good fortune of getting to know one very experienced, very smart dancer very, very well and learned a lot about the industry from her. I've also had the honor, on a few rare occasions, of ladies contacting me very privately stating that they are no longer seeing clients generally but would still be willing to see me (on a professional basis of course ... I'm no stud muffin).

There's some negatives too ... Nothing so much in the SP area (except via pillow talk from other SPs), but definitely with some of the rude customers that would come in to the strip clubs. And stories here and on the other boards.

Together, and to paraphrase Bob Seger, those memories have made me a wealthy soul....

I thought forums like this were here so we can discuss and exchange ideas and hopefully learn something from each other. Thats my goal anyway. I have learnt a lot but guess what? That doesn't mean I agree with you.

You didn't post this to discuss or learn anything. You posted with the only intent of educating. You're so convinced you're right that you won't even look at the other side.

I honestly came in here with a open mind. Did you?

 

Your first post was NEGOTIATING IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

 

This does not sound like a person with an open mind willing to discuss.

 

So if someone doesn't agree with you on this then they are too stupid to understand or simply not listening.

Dude, quit picking fights. There's some merit to your basic position, but others dont agree. As Cleo said, this is the Internet ... strongly suggest you give it a rest.

How old is this person?

I assume we don't have an adult/minor issue, right?

The obvious and only correct answer is typing this response to your thread. ;))

Downton Abbey.

I just wish they didn't kill off the really hot looking sister.

Come to think of if, turn his argument on its head and tell him you need to know his and his wife's sexual history for the same reasons he is bloviating on.

To both you and Serena, you have nothing you need to explain and definitely nothing you need to defend.

Kimmy --report him to the mod. And then just ignore him. IMO I wouldn't even give him the pleasure of a debate.

Best wishes.

+ 1 on Charlotte ... A great combination of an easy going nature and very high class appearance.

I suggest that the ladies that post regularly change up their ads a bit now and then ... I think anything new and unique encourages the guys to click. I don't know that it can be directly copied, but Sacha has a unique approach with her jokes. Explicit is fine with me.

In the meantime, I will keep waiting to see my dream ad, which is a few of you ladies posting one morning that you all just woke up with a bad "itch," and the first guy to show up with coffee and a dozen honey glazed from Timmys get to do the scratching!

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I was thinking more about the Aldous Huxley quote ... its such a sad, depressing, pessimistic thought. I dont think I agree with it as to accept it means that we all spend our lives in an internal state of confusion, not really understanding anyone.

I think we do understand at least those we are close to, if not by words, by nonverbal cues touching and simply by familiarity. We understand others through the power of logic any a common understanding of how things work.

Feelings are a lot tougher, so maybe there's some truth there. Those are some of the toughest things to express, and the inability to do so ... or at least the inability to find someone to listen ... can be the source of a lot of feelings of loneliness...

So I have recently fallen prey to the reality shows, particularly the kardashians. I was unerved when Scott -courtneys husband said she wasn't losing weight quick enough after having their second child. He said she was "his piece of machinery" so she should want to get back to her 93lb body. Jesus I wish I had been there!

It doesn't happen just in this business-it- being guys who think we are just pieces of asses for their pleasure. What is wrong with these dick wads, yahoo's and ding bats.Where did their mothers go wrong. I know I probabbly shouldn't get so offended as I know they were probably just hit to hard with an idiot stick and don't know any better.

I must say since I've been a cerb member I've been lucky and have only met respectful and appreciative gents, however I have, in my personal life, come across a couple of these yahoos. So I guess the point of this thread is to thank the good guys and ask them to reach out to those ding bats, dick wads and yahoos and show them how real men respond to and talk to women.

The problem ... Respectfully ... Ahem ... In a nutshell is that you are watching this crap ... Big smile. Change the channel and stop poisoning your mind! Most of it is made up to get a rise out of you.

It's like buying a dog from a puppy mill ... As long as people buy dogs from them, they will keep churning them out. As long as people remain fixated on following the lives of idiots like this, so that the producers can generate ad revenue, things will never improve.

Many people express feelings of loneliness and isolation, regardless of whether they are involved in the sex industry or not. Loneliness, isolation, solitude, communication (or lack thereof), and aloneness are featured topics of conversation when you're on the quest for meaning. We are all looking for a connection - we want to be seen, heard, smelled, and touched.

 

I recently had a conversation with Kay about the importance of connecting, touching, and being held. Talking about it, and not being afraid to reach out for a hug, is how people share their solitude.

 

I want to reach out and say "Good morning, I'm alone too."

 

I suppose this thread is just that. A virtual hug from someone who cares and understands.

 

Loneliness is complicated, it's one of those feelings that's hard to get rid of and hard to explain. It's a feeling often denied by introverts (such as myself) and often inexperienced by extroverts (like a lot of my friends).

 

We all know it exists though, in its various forms. We all talk about it, and define it differently. Sometimes we only experience it for a moment, sometimes we experience it for years...

 

--big big big hug--

 

Love,

Nat

This is a wonderful topic worthy of discussion precisely for the reasons Nathalie describes. Boy, does this ever hit home for me. You can be surrounded by people and still feel alone at times.

Sometimes I ask myself if these feelings are selfish ... Is it that I have access to a lot of people, but I only want to deal with them on my terms? In short, kind of a self-inflicted loneliness? I'm pretty introverted, so I don't think it only applies to extroverted people. I don't have answers, but I have the same questions!

As to the SP/client relationship, I definitely think, at least for the guys that aren't just hobbiests for the physical release, that this is likely a major factor why they enjoy visiting with SPs of all types. Having that intimate interaction is just as important, if not more so, than the physical act itself. But that where things can get a bit dangerous (for lack of a better word) as that can lead to unrealistic expectations.

Anyways, just my thoughts ... And a hug for Nathalie to let her know she's, most definitely, not alone.:icon_smile:

This happened to me recently when one of our cerb ladies was recovering from what seemed like a pretty strong orgasm ... just one little lick was all it took and ... bam ... got one right on the upper lip.

Gentlemen ... let that be a lesson to you ... watch what you're doing down there as you never know what might happen! :icon_biggrin::icon_wink:

I think if you are properly involved in ... ahem ... the orgasm-making process, you can usually, but not always, tell if they are real or not given how the lady's body responds. There are a number of ladies that I have seen that ... especially once we get to know each other and they can let their guard down a bit ... really seem to enjoy an orgasm, taking a break, and then starting again. Things are a lot more enjoyable for me if the lady is really enjoying herself; thats also why seeing a lady on a repeat basis really helps this sort of thing.

I agree that acting it out is a massive turn off and its better not to do that.

I must say that I am flattered to be on anyone's list. I have lists of my own ( both sp and hobbyist) but no comment at the mo)

A list by SPs of hobbyists that are on their "to do" list (pun intended) would be a lot of fun!

My original post deleted based on Jabba's comment.

Many of you may have seen posts on the other board about Melissa Fox coming onto the Ottawa scene. And then the question and some speculation that possibly ... could we be so lucky??? ... could this be none other than one of Ottawa's best-known, and best admired, ladies making a re-appearance? Well, after having spent an entire evening with her recently, and after just gettting her permission to disclose this bit of wonderful news, I'm very happy to announce that yes ... Melissa Fox is none other than Michelle MA!

As those of you who have seen Melissa in her former MA roles both at CMJ and as an independent, already likely know, she always has received good reviews due to her fantastic attitude and the fact that she really loves what she does. She can be quiet or gregarious, sensual or absolutely wild. Both cerb and terb are legion with great reviews of this lady under her former Michelle MA moniker.

When I first saw the postings about Melissa Fox, I posted that I didn't think it was her even though there was something oddly familiar about those beautiful eyes and gorgeous backside. Well ... within hours ... I got a pm from her saying that yes, it was her, but she needed a little more time before she wanted people to make the connection. That time has now passed.

In talking with her, "Melissa Fox" is essentially a new person, offering (as indicated on her website) everything from her classic ... and really good ... massage to a full service visit, but very limited appointments and very low volume. My visit with her was fantastic as always, starting with drinks and wine at a dowtown Ottawa restaurant and then walking, slipping and sliding back to the hotel a few blocks away on a very snowy night. We caught up on each other's lives, as we have many times before, and she caught me up on her decision to create Melissa. To be very clear, "Michelle MA," even with the fond memories, is yesterday's news.

Back at the hotel, while I took care of some personal calls, Melissa took a shower and ... just before I hung up ... she came sauntering out of the bathroom barely wearing a towel and one of those classic ... for those of you who know her ... really, really naughty girl expressions causing me almost to mess up my pants. There are few ladies that can get me as excited as she does. We had a great session with BBBJ (YMMV) that could have gone on for hours and any position I was interested including a few she suggested.

There have been a few postings about Melissa's "body type." Its fair to say that Melissa has gained just a bit of weight, but for those who know her, she has a very healthy mature figure and she looks great. There are new photos on her website melissafoxottawa.com.

I have met a number of absolutely wonderful ladies in Ottawa, but Melissa has been my "gold standard" for quite a while because of her sincerity and the connection I have made, and managed to maintain, with her. To paraphrase Bob Seger, she has made me a wealthy soul and I wish her the very best.

I first saw Annessa nearly four years ago, and I was fortunate enough to see her again during recent visit to Ottawa. I had to catch a flight, so we had a pretty short visit, but ... guys ... she is the same wonderful person she always has been. One thing I noticed right away is that ... not that she needed to, but Annessa has definitely lost some weight. And in all the right places!

As anyone who has seen Annessa knows, she is one of the most visually striking ladies in Ottawa and, if its possible, Annessa is more attractive today than the first time I met her. The physical part of our encounter was as great as ever. Hopefully we will have the chance to meet again!

I had the honor of meeting Carys on two occasions on a recent trip to Ottawa. I agree with the other reviews posted about this delightful young lady. She was very responsive and polite in her e-mails (note ... she does request and check references, which I think is a good thing). I had a flight delay coming into town and contacted her about that, and she was very, very easygoing about the whole thing. Our first visit was for 90 minutes starting with some wine, cheese and fruit. She was good enough to bring the wine (which I reimbursed her for) as my flight was running late and I was worried about the LCBO closing.

She is absolutely lovely, with fair skin and a "girl next door" look and figure. Her photos are accurate. She is wonderful to talk to and it was a lot of fun getting to know her. She is passionate, and is a really, really, really great kisser. I'm sure its a YMMV thing, but she definitely seemed to enjoy the physical part of our visit together. Everything is safe, but we really had a lot of unrushed fun together.

Our second visit was a little shorter but just as much passionate fun, and simply ... as she states on her website ... very pleasant. My trips to Ottawa have become few and far between, but I wouldn't hesitate to see her again.

I had the opportunity to spend some time with Peachy Val during a recent unexpected trip to Ottawa. I didn't know the origin of her name so I asked, and its makes a lot of sense (if you dont know the answer, you will just have to ask her yourself).

She is exactly as described in the many posts in this review string, so I dont have a lot to add other than to say she is a very attractive sexy lady with a very soft conversational voice and she is a real sweetheart. I would be very happy to see here again when (and if) I ever get back to Ottawa.

Ditto on the good night's sleep thing.

Guys, respectfully, you should knock it off ... You all have managed to put a discussion on a simple question completely in the ditch.

Not helping anybody.

Probably one of the sexiest things I have seen in my life was when I was sitting on a flight across the aisle from a young lady with beautiful legs who was wearing black sheer stockings and a fairly short skirt. As she settled in to her seat and slid down a bit, the skirt came up just enough to show the black lace at the top of her stocking, the garter, and just about a half inch of bare leg. Had a difficult time concerntrating!