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skinflute --

Nicely done. That's something a gentleman would do and it would seem to show you care about that lady not just as a SP but as a human being.

My only concern would be if there are two many guys hearing that story ... that might indicate its just a line being used on unwary customers. Giving the benefit of the doubt, the easiest solution is just for the lady to collect the fee up front, or to agree that the lady can hold onto something of value to the customer until the customer returns with the money.

Agree with cometman. Glad to hear this was resolved on cerb. Dont let clowns like this get into your head.

Best wishes.

Cato -- normally I dont comment on these sorts of threads, but I will make an exception for you ... congratulations!

I'll defer to the others on this board as you sound like a really nice person, and really sorry to hear that happened.

However, I doubt I would come back ... its one thing to make a mistake, but to have that complicated exponentialy by being met at the door by a male roommate/significant other ... that's really tough. Personally, the one person in the world that I dont want to see or have anything to do with is a guy that lives with the lady in question ... that sucks all the mystery out for me, and it becomes almost a socio-biological reaction to stay away from that person as they are closely associated with someone else. I can live with that when its abstract, but not when he answers the door (smile). That would literally give me the shivers and stories like this remind me why I prefer outcall visits.

If you are really interested in getting this client back, you may want to offer him a very special financial arrangement or other "perk" (dinner or something like that). Hope this helps and best wishes.

Have any of these ladies been able to grab the phone number being used? That might help locate the a**hole.

Best wishes as always.

There is no evidence whatsoever that dunn's post wasn't authentic ... As WIT has correctly pointed out, he had been a member for quite a while, posted on many different topics and provided reviews.  It's not logical at all ... and frankly bordering on ridiculous ... to say that he made it up or was just a throwing a message board "bomb," or anything like that.  I think maybe because some of you don't like the message you are starting to attack the messenger.

Maybe many here don't like what he had to say, and I think it's fair to criticize and comment on the points he raises, but don't make this personal.  Please, please go back and read the original post ... his "warning," for lack of a better term, is directed at married guys.  It seems to me to be from the heart and to that group, this is something they need to hear as a reality check now and then.

He's not speaking to all of us, just trying to reach to the people like him for whom this lifestyle can have negative effects.

 

Plus, what's wrong with "go hug your wife". She is after-all the most important person in some of our lives.

Agreed ... Completely. This is a great summary.

The OP's post is a reality check, and after thinking about it overnight, I REALLY appreciate it. It grabs you by the throat, as it should. And its important for anyone in a committed relationship to take to heart.

I think many of you, especially the guys, are being really hard on the OP here. Many of you are parsing words and phrases, and I never think that's a good idea as the OP probably didn't put that level of thought into the post when he wrote it, not to mention that there is a lot of emotion in that post. Sure, he's blaming things a bit on cerb ... maybe ... but he seems to be taking responsibility and he looks to be in the middle of sorting all that out when he wrote the note. And I definitely disagree that he shouldn't come back and read the messages ... maybe that's helping him work through this, so I hope he does come back and take a look. I wish him the best.

Dunn's original post is a helpful reality check for a portion of the guys here on Cerb. How big a portion that is I have no idea.

That being said, rock on!

My good deed:

Just a light-hearted suggestion to alter the spelling a little. As it's written, it could sooo be taken the wrong way (:icon_eek:).

 

Good topic btw and yes, I personally believe that just something as simple as holding a door open makes a difference!

I did a double take as well! Kinda funny.

But Peachy's basic thought is a pure and good one. In fact, beyond simple politeness, such as opening doors, etc., we should all, as Emeril Lagasse says, "kick it up a notch" and try to help someone out who is struggling a bit.

Never done this.

An intriguing idea, but I think that is going to be very dependent on "Chemistry" and the maturity of the lady. For instance, I would consider this difficult to do with a bubbly 21 year old that is chewing gum and twirling her hair around while she is talking to me. (smile)

OK... so maybe sex isn't better.....but is she more beautiful?

See previous answer Post 18 ... A definite maybe, especially if it's a first visit. That's why it's a good idea for all the ladies to do a good job with their photos.

Yes .. stop in ... I think PK is at 245 Sparks Street (wink). Or is that the Bank of Canada? I get them confused all the time. :>)

That doesn't seem like the most practical approach, especially if you are trying to maintain some anonymity. Angela's approach seems like a great idea.

There are a few independents that seem to be ok with this or actually prefer it, but maybe only if you have a strong online presence, maybe through cerb or another board, so that your name is trusted. The agencies certainly dont seem to like this much, although PK did accomodate me via pm once about 9 months ago (last time I used them).

I look forward to checking out Barb's when I move back to Ontario in a few months. Now all I need to do is find someone to take me.

One other thought ... it might be easiest to get started with a group of guys, but I have heard from the ladies on numerous occasions that their favorite situation is to approach a potential client while they are alone. That way, you dont have the dynamics you can get into with a lady walking up to a table of a bunch of guys. Also, its not always possible to attend with others if you are trying to maintain your anonymity. On the other hand, if you go with other guys from here they will likely know some of the ladies and can help "set you up," to to speak.

Barbs is about as easy to get started at as any SC ... is not too big, and its set up to get as close to, or as far away from, the action as you want.

I get the impression, based on her cerb posts, that Sacha is probably the smartest person in any room into which she enters (smile), so I'm trying to read more into her question than I probably should.

My answer is that it must be split into two questions, and you have to ask both:

1. Is there any relationship between the the perceived value of how good the time together was and the price? The answer is no, or very little, in my experience. I have had fantastic experiences at $180/hour and just OK experiences at $300/hour or more ... but I have definitely also had fantastic experiences with higher-priced encounters and not so great experiences with lower priced ones. Its all about chemistry, maturity, etc. etc. etc..

2. Is there any relationship between the perceived value and the time spent marketing, advertising, interactions on cerb, etc. and the price? The answer is yes, absolutlely. If a lady here takes the time to market herself well, there is most definitely a value that a potential client will likely assign to that, and that increases the possible rate that lady can charge.

This is a great topic and can provide some good information to the ladies, but one thing I want to make absolutely clear: As roger dodger said, and as I have said on numerous occasions, I am in awe of each and every lady on this forum... they are all angels in my mind. I would never, ever ... ever ... associate a decision about how a lady chooses to price her services with her "value" as a SP.

Deleted ... sorry

As usual' date=' Ang comes up with a great point which I THOUGHT I was alluding to in MY last post. You go girl.[/quote']

 

Then you are completely missing the point of many of the subsequent posts.

 

At least part of the issues mentioned include whether there is a feeling here that Lany felt intimidated into removing her post. BCB's points relate to this issue combined with some other historical matters that have been discussed here. There are some people here that feel very deeply about these topics on both sides and there's nothing wrong with talking them out.

I don't think it's getting heated, just people expressing their opinions strongly. Nothing wrong with that as long as its respectful IMO.

BCB, there's a lot going on in your posts, issue wise ... Care to take those one at a time?

I am oblivious as well, but I would like to point out, that as far as I can tell, there is no shortage of sperm donors.

Agreed ... That's been true throughout the ages!

Additional Comments:

I did read the original. Suffice to say that it related to the kind of behind-the-scenes stuff that we guys generally don't see. And, to be honest, had more to do with the SP/MA equivalent of the kind of office politics that far too many of us are probably far too familiar with.

 

 

 

No, it wasn't to do with references.

 

 

 

scottthecanuck's post wasn't unreasonable. This was the kind of thread that *could* have degenerated into nastiness, and I read his post as a shot across the bows of anyone who might have been tempted to go that way. It should also be said that that Lany's original post was more of a "why can't the CERB ethos be more widespread" lament than anything else.

 

In summary: move along, folks. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Thanks for the extra background.  I guess we'll probably never know why Lany deleted her post, but if that's all there was to it, that's even weirder in my opinion.  I'll leave the other specifics out of it, but I definitely stand by my opinion that no one here (except for our Mod., of course) is a self appointed censor of topics -- either to the original poster or others that might have an opinion -- as long as the poster is being respectful and the subject isn't illegal or otherwise out of bounds per Cerb rules.

Like most everyone else, I want us to have a great board and encourage as much discussion as possible.

Lany, I did not have the opportunity to read your post before you modified it, but I hope this board hasn't reached the point where we cant discuss a controversial topic, especially one involving the industry, as long as its done respectfully. Maybe there were some details that were too specific or problematic.

I take it from roaminguy's post that it had to do with withholding references or something like that, and I agree that's too bad and my experience is similar to his ... most people seem to be quite willing to share.

I take particular exception to scottthecanuck's post which I read as nothing more than discouragement to anyone who might have an opinion on whatever the matter was that Lany was trying to talk about. Have we really gotten to that point around here?

Kim - thanks. I stand corrected!

I would second the recommendaton for either Meg for Fun or MiaBella. I had great experiences with both.

 

As for his other recommendations, I can't give you my official recommendation but I do know that both Angela of Ottawa and Isabella Gia have many very positive reviews. I personally would like to set up appointments with them but a lack of time has prevented me from "pulling the trigger".

 

Going by your latin preference .... I think you should take a serious look at Isabella Gia. She seems to fit your wish list.

+1 Isabella ... I saw her about a month ago ... Haitian, I think. Very very nice lady and well reviewed here.

Correction ... She is Mexican, as Kim explains below. Sorry for confusion!

Well, there's some tough reading here.

 

I have to say, reading the things people have posted here has made me realize - again - how inordinately lucky I've been up to now. I really can't think what the hardest thing I've ever had to do is, and the big reason for that is that life has never thrown anything really hard at me. I'm profoundly grateful for that.

 

To everyone who's shared their experiences - thank you. I can't say that I have much of a clue about what you've been through, but I hope that if nothing else, being able to write these things down and share them is cathartic.

+1 well said. I feel the same ... Very, very fortunate. I'm sure those days are coming for me with my parents getting older ... Part of the objective has to be to help protect and guide those around you and those that are younger so they have the character and bravery to deal with these issues when they arise. Setting a good example ... That sort of thing.

So I'm guessing that ladies that have had experience in film are most likely to agree then. thanks!

Provided they are still working under their film name. I know of at least one person that apparently was fairly popular in Canadian adult films that is an occasional SP but is trying to get as far away from that as possible. Best wishes with your search.