Jasmine Rain

5 hours ago, Cjthomas said:

He is in the wrong and perhaps the usage of what was smoked caused some confusion. I will say I’m surprised that you’d find the need to ask for an opinion. From most of your previous posts you seem to be one who dispenses advice freely and with assertive confidence. No one can please everyone nor should they want to .

Just wanted to address this directly. 

I realize that I sometimes come across as self-assured and confident, but we all have our insecurities. For me, unhappy customers, either with escorting or my mainstream job, is something that just rubs me the wrong way. I always second guess if I have done enough, if it was good enough, was I fair enough pay wise, etc. It is a thing for me. So this just happens to pull on that string, and triggered my insecurities.

Which is why I needed to see the opinions of others to help validate for me that I'm not wrong, I read the situation right and I did the right thing. It really helped me get back to my center and know the truth of the situation. 

Just now, Greenteal said:

        If he wanted an hour of "warming up", this is something he should have mentioned before hand. And if you drive or see someone else later on the same day , the drinking and smoking could cause you problems. Reason why these kind of meetings should be planned ahead.

I only ever see one client in a day. Maybe 2 in a week. I would never have seen anyone else. He knows that, so planning this type of session would have been okay in the regard. 

It just seems like he actually wanted me to show up early, to get settled and have a conversation, chill, smoke, but that was all for me. He feels he was just offering that to be nice and being a gentleman and other escorts apparently take him up on this offer. So I was the bad escort for showing up on time and doing that during paid time. If I wasn't going to do that for free, then I should have just gone into the bedroom right away. That is the message I'm getting anyway.

It appears to me he is/was playing a game of offering something it wants and hoping I take the bait. I didn't and now he is upset. I guess I'm just looking for validation that my gut feeling was right and that I didn't do anything wrong. 

I also think it opens up the discussion of what is expected and not expected during a session.

Thanks to all who answered.

So I'm having an issue with a now former client. Our debate is about what should have been off the clock time and what should have been paid time. The fact that we are even taking off the clock time regarding an escort appointment is telling in itself because there should be no off the clock time, in my opinion. 

The setup was for an outcall. I normally do 2-hour mins on outcalls, and at a raised rate of $300/hour but I was being nice to a previously seen client who was not far in distance. I charged a grandfathered 1-hour rate. I arrived on time at 9 pm and left at 10:15 pm. 

During the chitchat leading up to the date, he mentioned multiple times 420, coming over earlier and terms like "chilling" and "relaxing" prior to getting started. I don't normally do 420 sessions with clients but again, I have seen him before on more than one occasion, and I thought since this was an outcall, he wanted to do it to relax, have a good session and then pass out. Seemed like a good plan to me. There was also talk of another session at my trailer, chilling again, having a nice campfire and then enjoy some fun time. At this point, I'm assuming it wants a combo of companionship and intimacy in his appointment. 

When I arrived, I got the tour of the new home, and when I asked about going to smoke, he said he was only saying that for me, he didn't' want any. Didn't happen that way, he had a little bit, he offered another form of marijuana which I declined for safety reasons. 

At about the halfway mark, I made the suggestion to head to the bedroom. He enjoys a nice 25 min long BJ. When he is done, he asks about pleasing me, I decline because it was already the hour mark. I stayed chatting and then cleaning up, leaving as I said, at 10:15. 

Surprisingly, a few days ago, I got an email from him very upset. He feels ripped off. He felt that he should have had an hour of sex. He says the offer for relaxing, smoking and chilling was for before the session started. That is why he was saying I can show up early. So that I could get settled, have some conversation, for me to smoke because he was thinking about me and then the session would start after that. 

I kindly explained that my time is paid for as well. I am an escort and that means that companionship and intimacy are both paid for. I explained that I have many 4-5 dinner dates that made up of mostly companionship with the last bit of the appointment is for intimacy. 

I was told that all the other escorts that see him, do this. They don't start the session until they go into the bedroom because they like to have real-world intelligent conversations for once and they get really great sex with multiple orgasms. 

Basically, I get the feeling, he wanted companionship and intimacy but only wanted to pay for one of those. I know he enjoyed all the time that I was there, but he wanted to have and only pay for an hour of sex, and the rest of the time would be on my dime. 

So am I right? Am I wrong? 

I will not be seeing him again so I can't do a makeup on the next session if I'm in the wrong here. Like only charging him half price or something. Most I can do is given him some actual cash back, which I will do if I'm wrong but I really don't think I am in this case. He basically wanted me to show up at 8:30, chill and hang like friends, then start the session at 9 for a full hour of sex, and only pay for that.  

As politely as I can, I have expressed a few times that we are not friends. That I'm an escort, and I get paid for my time. I keep getting replies that are intended to make me feel like that is wrong. That it is wrong for me to expect to be paid for all time, not just the time in the bedroom? 

Now I will say one thing if these requests of chilling and hanging before the intimacy part of the session were being brought up by a new client, I think I would have seen the signs and would have explained that I can get paid for both. Having seen this client like 3-4 times already, I didn't think I needed to say that as I didn't think he was asking for OTC time before the appointment time. I thought he wanted all that in his session. I still think he did want all that, he just didn't want to pay for it. 

Granted, I don't do many outcalls. I think this is like my 3rd or 4th, and I know what most escorts will say. They will side with me, but I want the opinion of other hobbyists. 

Do you expect a lady to show up early for an appointment to get settled, chill, talk, smoke, then start the session once in the bedroom? Or does time start when I walk in the door? Should I be giving him some money back? Should I feel confident that I did my job, as requested and deserved the payment I requested? 

Opinions please.....

A copy and paste from my other comments on other threads on this topic. 

LL was making a change before this girl went on a rampage. They were, from my understanding - looking at review site as well. Based on a new twitter handle I followed a couple of days before this happened. So I think the ”ownership” change was already happening. 

Bottom line folks, our industry is not ever going to be as simple as mainstream.  As much as I don't want to get into crypto, almost every single site that we need, will take it. So maybe it is time to just hop on board. 

What is more important, food on your table or the convenience of a CC.

As for prices, its a lot. When that is what you solely rely on. I bet women pay more on there then they do on the forums for a month.  Diversity is the name of the game here. I have never and will never put all my eggs in one basket. Not for anything, personal, business etc. That is especially true for this industry. 

It sucks when things don't go the way we like or the way we think it should go. Yet we have seen that stirring the pot too much leaves us worse off. Bedford case, CL shut down then BP, now this. The storm will pass but how many people will learn this time. Learn how to adapt or learn how to change up your game by diversifying? 

Bottom line - men will always buy sex and women will always sell it. It is just a matter of how easy or hard you make that within the limits of the ever-evolving industry. 

I will say if the powers at LL are no longer using an EU based company for processing, then change the currency back to CDN. That is a pure cash grab if they don't. Which again,  I recognize is their right and I will continue to pay so long as I want to have my ad on that platform and feel, I get an ROI.

Right now a bump once a month is good for me. However, when I tour East/West, I'll use it and pay. If a $10 as is making $250 - I ain't bitching about price. Escort advertising is so cheap compared to the mainstream for real businesses.  Hell, my print cost on flyers for just events at my job cost more than a year of advertising on the forums and that is just to advertise to customers I already have.  

Ladies have to watch, they think guys only look for sex when they want it. That is not true. They research beforehand. You don't need to have your ad up on the front page all the time, you don't need to only use LL on the day you are working. I say take this time to learn about other advertising venues or how to support those who have stay tried and true longer than CL, BP and LL combined.

Sorry, that turned into more than I thought. As a businesswoman, I get frustrated at how upset these women get. Only because I know if they just tweaked a couple of things in their game, they wouldn't have to worry as much as they do. I wish there was a magic handbook I could give out. I wish women would put 10% of every booking away for days like today. It would help pay that hotel when you found out after you checked in that you can’t place an ad LL. I wish ladies would use more then one site. It would make sure you had another place to advertise when now stuck in a pre-paid hotel and no LL. 

To be clear, I'm not mad at women. Just frustrated they have to go through this when I know a change here or there could have made this issue such a non issue for them as it is for me. I wish one person didn't decide for the rest what was good and what was not. First with Bedford and now this trans woman from Vancouver.

I wrote this on another forum 

LL was making a change before this girl went on a rampage. They were, from my understanding - looking at review site as well. Based on a new twitter handle I followed a couple of days before this happened. So I think the ”ownership” change was already happening. 

Bottom line folks, our industry is not ever going to be as simple as mainstream.  As much as I don't want to get into crypto, almost every single site that we need, will take it. So maybe it is time to just hop on board. 

What is more important, food on your table or the convenience of a CC.

As for prices, its a lot. When that is what you solely rely on. I bet women pay more on there then they do on Terb for a month.  Diversity is the name of the game here. I have never and will never put all my eggs in one basket. Not for anything, personal, business etc. That is especially true for this industry. 

It sucks when things don't go the way we like or the way we think it should go. Yet we have seen that stirring the pot too much leaves us worse off. Bedford case, CL shut down then BP, now this. The storm will pass but how many people will learn this time. Learn how to adapt or learn how to change up your game by diversifying? 

Bottom line - men will always buy sex and women will always sell it. It is just a matter of how easy or hard you make that within the limits of the ever-evolving industry. 

I will say if the powers at LL are no longer using an EU based company for processing, then change the currency back to CDN. That is a pure cash grab if they don't. Which again,  I recognize is their right and I will continue to pay so long as I want to have my ad on that platform and feel, I get an ROI.

Right now a bump once a month is good for me. However, when I tour East/West, I'll use it and pay. If a $10 as is making $250 - I ain't bitching about price. Escort advertising is so cheap compared to the mainstream for real businesses.  Hell, my print cost on flyers for just events at my job cost more than a year of advertising on TERB and that us just to advertise to customers I already have.  

Ladies have to watch, they think guys only look for sex when they want it. That is not true. They research beforehand. You don't need to have your ad up on the front page all the time, you don't need to only use LL on the day you are working. I say take this time to learn about other advertising venues or how to support those who have stay tried and true longer than CL, BP and LL combined. Which is Terb.

Sorry, that turned into more than I thought. As a businesswoman, I get frustrated at how upset these women get. Only because I know if they just tweaked a couple of things in their game, they wouldn't have to worry as much as they do. I wish there was a magic handbook I could give out. I wish women would put 10% of every booking away for days like today. It would help pay that hotel when you found out after you checked in that you can’t place an ad LL. I wish ladies would use more then one site. It would make sure you had another place to advertise when now stuck in a pre-paid hotel and no LL. 

To be clear, I'm not mad at women. Just frustrated they have to go through this when I know a change here or there could have made this issue such a non issue for them as it is for me. I wish one person didn't decide for the rest what was good and what was not. First with Bedford and now this trans woman from Vancouver.

28 minutes ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said:

True...my accountant wont like me haha. But yes never thought of that way. 

Mine can get pissy all she wants. A receipt is a receipt and I'm claimin’ that shit. Lol. 

8 hours ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said:

Very valid, and for myself I always have a stash of bitcoins. 

However, wondering how I claim that on my taxes as expenses leaves me puzzled. Believe it, I pay taxes as Sophia. 

So with out having advertising  as proper expense sheet, I will be missing one of the biggest aspects of my business! 

This IS my career. 

I honestly feel we will evolve! And thats a good thing! Rough times ahead...probably. And if its bitcoin all the way, well I will see what CRA has to say about it lol. 

LL has a section that shows a record of your purchases and in Euro. It can be used as a receipt. Regardless of whether you paid by bitcoin. 

Under the ”gift card” section as if you are going to buy more. At the bottom. Click the order. You will have to screen cap it. 

So this week has been a shit show of stupidity for me it seems. 

Like my brain is just not working. 

For example, just had a stupid moment on another forum. Thinking a rule is one way that was changed like a year ago. And I tell people to read yet here I didn't. 

Tried to squeeze my fat ass car into a little space, there were literally two free spaces on the other side of the car. Like why????  I thought they were a loading zone. But there was no signs saying so. Just me being dumb 

Tried to walk into a place with a big sign that said use other door, tried open a sliding freeze door the wrong way and couldn't figure out why it would not open. 

Like seriously the most dumbest shit. I think my brain is still on vacation! LOL. 

Anyone else have similar stories.

19 hours ago, TorontoMelanieJolliet said:

Yes that's a thing. That's not the problem. Apparently not needing a full room cleaning and total linen change everyday causes them worry, even tho they post notices inside hotel rooms about Saving the Earth, and laundry demands (more detergents in water, more water usage etc)

Which is dumb because they want you to reserve and re-use towels. 

If you can't make your bed as an adult there is something wrong and not having your bed made is not going to kill you. 

For me, I'm lucky that I have a mainstream business so I can use that when traveling. Show my site, my business cards, and business visa that will then be used a competing hotel. And I have no problem doing that. 

I would make make such a stink, they would be afraid to accuse another woman again. You just have to switch it around on them. 

Plus, I use the actual drawers and put my stuff away. Even if staying a single night. It's a thing for me. So none of my stuff would be out and visible if anyone came to the door. 

I also have an "add-a-lock" which works on hotels to keep the door locked inside without using their latches that the staff can remove. There is no knock then enter or attempt and hit the latch. The door just doesn't open at all. 

If you are touring, maybe set up a wix email or something cheap with a throw together site and some vista print business cards. I always ask if they have a business area and if they have a place to leave cards. Some hotels have draws for things. 

Also, I use the amenities and make sure I'm seen using them. "Hookers" hide. So I don't hide. 

Hopefully, the good folks here can give me some good information about tours for whale watching and iceburg spotting. 

I will be stopping in Corner Brook, Gander, St. John hopefully to work, but I am open on other places to visit. and I would love some info on hotels, and good places to eat! 

Thanks

11 minutes ago, letsplay_57 said:

Delta Saint John is a key card only for elevators for room access...you would have 2 meet the clients & proceed 2 the elevator...Hilton is better & located  same area...Delta Moncton key card after 9 pm  Sounds like a fun trip for you & also for us 😛 

Well, that is good to know! I was told that Delta may not be the best via PM as well. Thank you!

I travel to and from Peterborough a lot and am always available for outcalls. 

Simply visit my site and get in contact! 

5 hours ago, good-date said:

The attempt is real as to whether or not it comes to fruition remains to be seen.  The first time Vanessa Rivera Came to Halifax was do to this exact same kind of post.  She was with an agency then.  The agency was contacted and made aware of the post and the amount of interest it had generated, and voilà.  

However, this sort of post usually puts a few members off.  Perhaps the worry is that it will attract attention thereby detracting from local business.  But other than the fact that I am not a provider or an agency, I'm not sure how it is any more threatening than the visiting courtesan ads in the "Schedules & Announcements" Section or the Reco's of both local and non local ladies in the "recommendation" section.

And I am not advertising for this SP, I'm asking a simple question "if this lady visited, would you commit to seeing her?"

 

 

Is there a big push to only see local girls? 

I thought variety was the spice of life?????

Personally, I can not go back to back with appointments. I know some ladies can and I wish them all the best with it. I can't take more than 2 calls in a day usually. I like to cum and cum hard. Im hoping to have no engery left after the one visit, there is no way I would be ready for another until the next day. LOL

On 11/14/2018 at 3:06 PM, WildTiger said:

I have nothing to say but felt I better post something to try to get my score up. 😉  

 

Plus I want a new toaster!

I'm with you!!!! LOL

On 3/29/2019 at 2:50 PM, TorontoMelanieJolliet said:

Not flagged. Or I'd be flagged all over. When I show up with my platinum member card I get treated differently. When I book with hotels or trivago...high deposit and suspicion. Even tho they know im good, im gold member etc SOME hotels (lets say when a new thing is introduced ppl are hyper-sensitive/over zealous in carrying out their duties)

And if you read my OP you'd see I wasn't asking about me. I was asking if anybody else noticed. And since you are a male who is an escort, you obviously don't get the same reaction, cuz you are not a female traveling alone. And male escorts are more rare anyways. They are suspecting all female travelers who are alone. So you're in the clear. So you don't know anything about my situation. I wasn't asking for that anyways.

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I will not book via discount sites when traveling. That is the biggest red flag. It is easier to pay the larger rate and worry less.

Having said that though..... 

Seriously! They "needed to do something with the mattress cover"???? How do they think that lie would even pass? You would have had to be the one to complain for them to want to check it....... It is so stupid. 

Hi all!

I'm starting to plan my trip to New Brunswick for June and I am hoping to get some info from locals. I will see the Bay of Fundy, during high and low tide. I will stay and work in Fredericton, Saint John, and Moncton. I'm open to staying elsewhere as well. I will be leaving New Brunswick to PEI from Moncton. 

I have reward points with Delta/Marriot chain hotels so that is where I will most likely stay unless there are better hotels. 

I would also like to see whales, but I will be traveling to New Foundland as well so I can catch some there I think.

If there is something I should be seeing in any of those cities or places outside of them, attractions that are can't misses, etc. please let me know.

Thanks in Advance,

Jess

I will say right now, don't see me if you don't like it wet!  

LMAO 

Thank you for sitting on my face. Made my day. 

Lots of ladies are trying to push for VIP as we like the platform better. 

At least a lot of indies. 

Lots are leaving eros and discretelist is awesome. 

Do a Whois search and contact the hosting company. 

Give them links to your actual site or ads and tell them the site is stealing them. 

On 9/4/2018 at 9:32 PM, Guest 70340...2bc said:

OP here. I did help her for an extended time period to stop working, but unfortunately she came to the conclusion that she needed to continue working again to achieve her goals.

Anonymous poster hash: 70340...2bc

This is your answer. 

I think taking some time to step back from the situation is what is in order. 

Cut contact for 2-3 months. Let your feelings settle back down a bit and let the clarity of the actual relationship settle in. 

While giving a break from her, go to a MP or another SP. 

when you you are in a better emotional and mental state, then contact her again. 

If you want, you can tell her you are just taking a break from hobbling for a couple months. So she knows. 

But it you have answers your own question. You know what to do, you just don't  necessarily like it which I totally get. Who would???? 

Good luck to you. 

On 9/4/2018 at 9:32 PM, Guest 70340...2bc said:

OP here. I did help her for an extended time period to stop working, but unfortunately she came to the conclusion that she needed to continue working again to achieve her goals.

Anonymous poster hash: 70340...2bc

This is your answer. 

I think taking some time to step back from the situation is what is in order. 

Cut contact for 2-3 months. Let your feelings settle back down a bit and let the clarity of the actual relationship settle in. 

While giving a break from her, go to a MP or another SP. 

when you you are in a better emotional and mental state, then contact her again. 

If you want, you can tell her you are just taking a break from hobbling for a couple months. So she knows. 

But it you have answers your own question. You know what to do, you just don't  necessarily like it which I totally get. Who would???? 

Good luck to you. 

I'm actually beyond the No Means No saying. It implies that you can try and just wait for a NO and that is not right either. 

No one should have someone try to touch them without permission first. 

Im of the saying of Affirmative Yes. Yes means yes.  This means you actually ask and get a yes first. 

Now I get that some have issue with that. They don't get how you ask to kiss someone when it should be natural. There are plenty of ways to make it romantic or sensual or sexual depending on the type encounter you are having. You just need some imagination. 

Personally I would rather struggle finding a way to ask first then to make a move and make someone uncomfortable in having them saying no. 

I get get that I'm in the minority here but it is happening slowly. California has imposed this and hopefully more with get on board. 

Another sort of off topic rant. Sorry.