my upcoming trip to winnipeg

[amadeus65 113]

Firstly I hope mod allows me to post this in this area, if I am in the wrong place please redirect me.

I am coming into winnipeg on the 27th and 28th next week, have to take some relatives to the airport and am staying overnight at a hotel. I have been busy all weekend writing e-mails unfortunately it seems most of the sp's i contacted on EC either weren't home or don't have laptops and check their e-mail so I received very few replies to my enquiries. However, that being said I of course made an appointment with sydnee as I will always try to do when I am in town, plus I booked an added treat with mystique as well. It should make for an interesting review when I come home as we have a few interesting things planned that hopefully will work out the way I hope :D

 

I also booked(on the recommendations of some of the regs here) an appointment with holland of EC. I like the look of her blonde long legs and she seems very warm and friendly at least on e-mail So I will probably call and chat with her some time this week just to break the ice. I have some special requests I usually ask the sp i am with to do and again she was very accomadating. Her rate is good, I will post more on this after I see her of course. Also I like to bring a small gift to the girl I am with as a token of appreciation, usually a bottle of perfume or a gift card from a lingerie shop :cool: I find that they appreciate this even if it isn't required and it makes the GFE much more satisfying. So I will post more of course next week but I definately want to thank the posters who pm'd me with their recommendations, I really do appreciate that, as I am finding myself very happy with the level of service with the independant escorts vs any sort of agency girl. I am hoping that after this trip this continues to be the case, but I have a feeling that it will. My little 2cents worth for the long weekend eh?

[Elle 1961]

If all the emails you sent out were like the ones you sent me, I think that you may have made many of the SPs too uncomfortable to reply to you or scared them off. (ie: the laundry list of special clothing requests, specific questions about specific services, the status of your health, topped off with insisting on posting a review afterwards.) The appointment may just have sounded like more trouble than it was worth.

[amadeus65 113]

thanks for your input i guess, unfortunately I like to lay my cards on the table so to speak so I dont waste someones time, especially people whom i have read their reviews. My talking about a review is just that honesty and straighforward, thats the kind of person I am, if I have offended you then I apologize, to be quite honest the tone of this post would definately turn me away to start with as it is very hostile, I am hoping that the other sp's i am seeing next week don't have this kind of an attitude thats for sure, any further nastiness please direct to me in private.

[mod 135639]

I don't think Elle's post was hostile. I think you asked a question and she answered it (and did you a favor by taking the time to answer it truthfully).

 

What she didn't mention is that some of the SP's in Winnipeg are getting harassed by by-law and LE so if your email was too explicit it may have been ignored to protect the ladies best interests.

 

Also... if you are telling them that you will be reviewing them (before even seeing them) then you would not be viewed as a desirable client as that means if everything is not perfect (no chemistry for instance) then they run the risk of you slandering them. It would sounds like you are warning them that they better work extra hard to please you or else!! (I would assume that is what you meant so I would not blame any of them for ignoring you).

 

Lastly, people with long lists of requests and demands are often hard people to please. So you add that to the threat of a review and your almost guarantied to be ignored. Is your list of services and garments possibly over the top? You run the risk of coming across as a little nutty if your requests are way out in left field or unreasonable ... remember I have not viewed your email so I am just asking as it could also be a reason for this. Maybe they read your list and said... this would not be something I am interested in so they just ignored you.

[amadeus65 113]

Thank you for your insite in this mod, I didn't think I had unreasonable requests, if elle wants she can send you that e-mail privately, to me that response should have been done in private not on the public form, she did me no favours by that post, indeed I have my appointments set up in winnipeg and the sp's that I have made arrangements with did not seem to find anything out of the ordinary with what I requested. I didn't have a long list of requests, I mentioned that I like DFK,DATY and Cowgirl to me that is not a whole lot of weird requests. Also I do have references both from this site and from other sp's that I have met who have given me permission to use them as references. As for "health problems" she alluded to I have a health condition that gives me a low energy level, therefore I am unable to physically do certain positions. Now to me, putting that out in the open rather than setting up a date and finding out that the girl doesn't do anything for me would be a complete waste of time and money. her time and my money. As for the LEA angle, since I have already seen an SP one in particular who is known on all the boards that shouldn't be an issue. People that have taken the time to read my posts understand exactly where I am coming from. As someone who has spent literally thousands of dollars on agency girls and been the victim of bait and switch and poor service, I thnk it is only fair that when I make my appointments for a session there is and understanding of what I like. I admire your defence of Elle's post however to me and to others it seems it was a nasty thing to do in the publice form, I reiterate she did me no favours and Ymmv but I am upset with the tone of the post and the way in which it was handled. I have never been afraid to say what I want and if other people don't like it tough S***, I apoligize for my lengthy response to this but it has really upset me. Also with reference to reviews I would NEVER EVER write a review if I did not think was appropriate, I discussed writing a review of sydnee with her and she endorsed it. The rules of this post are no negativity and no bs. I was being honest in my e-mails and expect the same from anyone that writes me back, if they cannot accomidate me that is fine I will move on.

[mod 135639]

What part of her post do you find hostile and full of attitude and nastiness? The way I read it she was being polite and said that you may have scared off some of the girls if you send the same type of email that you sent to her. This is a honest reply from the sounds of it (She does not appear to be trying to start a fight, be hostile or nasty towards you) I think she is just letting you know that maybe your emails might scare off some of the girls. She even goes as far as tipping you off to the points of your email that you may wish to address if you would like to avoid this reaction.

 

I think you jumped the gun on this and misinterpreted her reply (I could be wrong here but I don't see anything that would make me think she is being hostile towards you in anyway)... it sounds like you went on the defensive a little too quick.

 

You have to be careful reading people's posts and emails... Most people are not able to properly format text to show emotions. (This is why they invented the smilies/emotion icons) ... Not everyone has perfect grammar either so things are EASILY taken out of reference.

 

When you read her post if you immediately assume she was trying to be nasty towards you then you could easily take it out of context and assume the worst. Read it over again and pretend she has nothing but good intentions and all she wants to do it tell you why some of the girls may have ignored your email... see the lack of emotion leaves the email open for interpretation of the reader to assume a emotion exists. I think she was being nice and trying to let you know where you may have gone wrong... you assumed she was being nasty towards you and instead of finding out first you went on the defensive and lashed out at her for being nasty towards you.

 

Maybe she was upset when she posted it but I see no indication of that. Are you 100% sure she posted that to be hostile?

[amadeus65 113]

You have very good points mod, perhaps i jumped on the defensive to quickly, and if i have i apologize, just seemed hostile to me, but perhaps that is just me.

[mod 135639]

I spoke with Elle and I was correct. She had no intention to come across as being hostile or nasty. She was rather taken back by your reaction to her post. I think she was afraid to reply to tell you that you took her post out of context as she did not want to escalate this further. Let's try to find out first next time before going on the defensive.

[cat 262460]

Darling Amadeus,

 

As we all know, people have vastly different communication styles, which sometimes leads to confusion. Reading Elle's post, her comments mirrored many of my thoughts. If I open an email from a new guest, and it has lists, I simply refer them to someone else. Not always because of the content of the lists, but because often these individuals have a set experience in their minds, and fantasy seldom translates to reality well. No one wants to disappoint, and we also don't want to set ourselves up for failure, resulting in a negative review. Personally, I pass on "out of the gate" requests. Elle's post gives some clear insight into the "not to do's" when getting things started. Good information for newcomers to have.

 

There needs to be a level of trust before details are discussed, and I will never respond to an email that details services with anything but my base intro letter, which gives no details. This usually shows the guest that it's not open for discussion. I like to have a couple of emails that discusses the feel of the encounter, and then I expect my guest to trust me, as I am trusting them. When you deal with indies, it's our reputation on the line, so we aim to please.

 

Considering the history of review boards, when I read "review" I respond with a "Thank you but I'm not available" if someone mentioned it in an email before we met, unless I know him from CERB. Other review boards have been a "thorn in our side" for years, and CERB is the first that I have encountered that is worth participating in. Including links to your posts may help, but I would wait to discuss this in person. I have enjoyed your posts immensely and always scan for new posts with your name on them. You are not the kind of man who would post against a woman request not to, so just keep in mind that not all SP's read the boards because of the negative influence they have had at times.

 

I think we chalk this one up to sharing of information, because knowledge is power...

 

Catherine

[amadeus65 113]

Thanks Cat, as usual you know exactly what to say and how to diplomatically say it, for that I will always respect you. I apologize to elle for jumping on the defensive, I guess my years around computers, the old irc et al have given me a bias into reading into things that perhaps I shouldn't. And you are right, I would never post a review without the ladies consent as lots of people do. My request etc, as I explained in my post above are usually just to make sure that the girl offers the services I require, some SP's pages don't include what services they offer and for me I would rather ask outright than book a 1-2 hour session and find out that the SP doesn't perform certain services, I guess my plain bluntness some times comes across as demanding although I think I am anything but that. Anyways thiis thread for me is water under the bridge, I have made my appointments for my trip to winnipeg next week and I am really looking forward to it. I feel like an extra in the old melanie griffiths movie "body double" where Frankie goes to Hollywood plays relax in the club :-) Although my dear cat for you and me maybe a bit of Omar and Howlers would be good eh? Also as a heads up I will be posting a story before friday in response to Jen's contest this will be one of my english stories Also I am going to start a new thread in terf, kind of like a blog to post some of my life experiences in different parts of the planet, my view on sp's which there are none of where I live and other simpler things, keep an eye out for it as you could well enjoy it. And if I should ever get to Ottawa my darling cat you will be the first lady I would book an appointment with. As my old favourite saying used to be before I met my buddy bill "En Verto Verte" thanks again for your insightful and warm post I always listen to what you have to say and your advice is second to none.