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[Pamela Luscious 196]

Just now, MikeyInHalifax said:

Your arguments are both futile. Do either of you think that you're changing anyone's opinion here? News flash! The answer is no. The most precious resource anyone in this universe has is time. And you've both wasted not only your own, but all of ours. Move. On.

This is my job. I have all day, every day, to be on forums.

If you're willing to show your true colors, I'll gladly help you expose them.

I honestly don’t care if you’re not reading as a client

because it was never meant for you.

[NewGuy_411 21]

This argument alone. Has made me NOT want to ever see Pamela. The constant arguing and insecure need to constantly defend her postion. Which , frankly. I agree with. However,  you two have taken it to another level. Its ridiculous.  I wouldn't book based on this alone. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. You two need to stop the constant back and forth. We get it. Your right.  He is wrong... just let it go. You have both said your piece five times over. 

[Pamela Luscious 196]

19 minutes ago, NewGuy_411 said:

This argument alone. Has made me NOT want to ever see Pamela. The constant arguing and insecure need to constantly defend her postion. Which , frankly. I agree with. However,  you two have taken it to another level. Its ridiculous.  I wouldn't book based on this alone. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. You two need to stop the constant back and forth. We get it. Your right.  He is wrong... just let it go. You have both said your piece five times over. 

That's totally fine! If a woman standing her ground and supporting women with respect offends you, then I'm clearly not for you. And gladly, if other hobbyists on here can’t handle that either, I’m not for them, too. But do remember, many real men love a woman with a backbone and care for her community.

 

If you think a woman calmly defending her position is 'arguing,' maybe it’s time to ask why my tone bothers you more than the disrespect I’m responding to.

 

I speak up not to please everyone, but because I care. If that makes me ‘too vocal’ for some, I’m okay with that. Swer forums need to set the bar for respect higher, and I’ll always be on the side that pushes it upward.

 

Funny how degrading women gets a pass around here… but the moment one stands up for herself, that’s what people find offensive. Priorities say a lot.

[kewlio 47]

Pretty sad display from some people here. Pamela is such an amazing person, who deserves respect. I for one will always support a strong woman like her. The need for some people to have the final word is pathetic and I’m sure she’s happy that she’s scared you off from booking her in the future

[NewGuy_411 21]

3 hours ago, Pamela Luscious said:

That's totally fine! If a woman standing her ground and supporting women with respect offends you, then I'm clearly not for you. And gladly, if other hobbyists on here can’t handle that either, I’m not for them, too. But do remember, many real men love a woman with a backbone and care for her community.

 

If you think a woman calmly defending her position is 'arguing,' maybe it’s time to ask why my tone bothers you more than the disrespect I’m responding to.

 

I speak up not to please everyone, but because I care. If that makes me ‘too vocal’ for some, I’m okay with that. Swer forums need to set the bar for respect higher, and I’ll always be on the side that pushes it upward.

 

Funny how degrading women gets a pass around here… but the moment one stands up for herself, that’s what people find offensive. Priorities say a lot.

 

As per usual , the common theme of this thread is "  missing the piont " . That logic is obviously to complicated for you to understand. Personally , your backbone and opinion matters not to me. There is sticking up for yourself. And then there is trying  to beat it to death with words. I told you. I agreed with your piont of view.  Your obsession with having to convince someone that you cannot. And will never change there piont of view is inherently a waste of time. The meaning of insanity comes to mind.   I for one ,  won't bother to respond to any other posts you make on this subject . As this matter is of little importance to me.  I will leave it up to the sycophants and beta's to help convince him. 

[Coco1 82]

4 hours ago, NewGuy_411 said:

This argument alone. Has made me NOT want to ever see Pamela. The constant arguing and insecure need to constantly defend her postion. Which , frankly. I agree with. However,  you two have taken it to another level. Its ridiculous.  I wouldn't book based on this alone. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. You two need to stop the constant back and forth. We get it. Your right.  He is wrong... just let it go. You have both said your piece five times over. 

Totally agree. A provider who is worth seeing and is highly sought after doesn't have the time nor the inclination to be here bickering with people. 

[Pamela Luscious 196]

22 minutes ago, NewGuy_411 said:

 

As per usual , the common theme of this thread is "  missing the piont " . That logic is obviously to complicated for you to understand. Personally , your backbone and opinion matters not to me. There is sticking up for yourself. And then there is trying  to beat it to death with words. I told you. I agreed with your piont of view.  Your obsession with having to convince someone that you cannot. And will never change there piont of view is inherently a waste of time. The meaning of insanity comes to mind.   I for one ,  won't bother to respond to any other posts you make on this subject . As this matter is of little importance to me.  I will leave it up to the sycophants and beta's to help convince him. 

No one’s forcing you to read or comment, yet here you are, again. Funny how you say I’m missing the point, when the entire thread was about questioning whether a woman is ‘worth it’ if she charges more or calls herself elite. That’s what I addressed. Y’all are the ones who made it about me.

 

If you want to stay on topic, great, do that. But stop projecting and trying to shift the narrative just because I won’t let the disrespect slide.

 

And let’s be clear, I’m not here to change anyone’s mind. I already know some of you won’t get it. I’m here to help you expose yourselves. This thread has over 8,000 views and a lot of them are from providers. Trust me, I’m not wasting my time, I’m doing this community a favor.

 

So please, continue. You’re doing a fantastic job of showing everyone exactly what kind of men we’re dealing with.

[Bicuriousdartmouth 1055]

while i agree that woman are absolutely allowed to charge whatever they want.. heres my take...

 

If i go to the mall and someones selling clothing and the sign reads "the best pair on earth, will not tear when you bend over, ultra comfortable, perfect fit" but they cost twice as much . You purchase them and they are not comfortable at all, rip the first time you wear them and are not true to the size labelled. Are we just suppose to accept that Hey someone poured there life savings into designing those pants, who are you to say they arent any good.

 

My point being....

While i agree that women should be able to set there own prices and restrictions and worth , there is definitely a problem with fake advertising. How many times do i have to meet someone new that claims to offer GFE and charges high end prices and then i show up to someone who looks nothing like the pictures and delivers a terrible service . Theres nothing wrong with sharing our opinions on this forum with how an experience went . Any provider whos doing there clients right wouldnt have an issue with that

 

[MsManda 25775]

The problem isn't that y'all discuss us.. 

It's the tone used when (some of) you do 🙄

and that's just what we can see publicly, don't get me started on the DMs here 

 

Usage on this forum has died down to what it has, and I'm sure you have noticed that providers aren't as active in the lyla community/discussions as they used to be.. Now it's just a boys club here, and the tone has changed as such

 

This used to be a place of respect for sps, and now its losing that vibe for more of an sp411 feel.. How's that forum doing, btw? 

 

By all means, share your opinions, but do know that we use these threads for screening as well as you do 😈

[MsManda 25775]

1 hour ago, Bicuriousdartmouth said:

while i agree that woman are absolutely allowed to charge whatever they want.. heres my take...

 

If i go to the mall and someones selling clothing and the sign reads "the best pair on earth, will not tear when you bend over, ultra comfortable, perfect fit" but they cost twice as much . You purchase them and they are not comfortable at all, rip the first time you wear them and are not true to the size labelled. Are we just suppose to accept that Hey someone poured there life savings into designing those pants, who are you to say they arent any good.

 

My point being....

While i agree that women should be able to set there own prices and restrictions and worth , there is definitely a problem with fake advertising. How many times do i have to meet someone new that claims to offer GFE and charges high end prices and then i show up to someone who looks nothing like the pictures and delivers a terrible service . Theres nothing wrong with sharing our opinions on this forum with how an experience went . Any provider whos doing there clients right wouldnt have an issue with that

 

But we're not selling leggings that won't rip.. We're not out here touting our technical fabrics lmao

 

We're selling personalized experiences, with more variables than if someone selected the right fit of leggings for their size/body type. 👀

 

You can show up with terrible hygiene to buy leggings and still be served a fabulous pair of leggings lol

Not so much with sp experiences though

 

[Pamela Luscious 196]

1 hour ago, Bicuriousdartmouth said:

while i agree that woman are absolutely allowed to charge whatever they want.. heres my take...

 

If i go to the mall and someones selling clothing and the sign reads "the best pair on earth, will not tear when you bend over, ultra comfortable, perfect fit" but they cost twice as much . You purchase them and they are not comfortable at all, rip the first time you wear them and are not true to the size labelled. Are we just suppose to accept that Hey someone poured there life savings into designing those pants, who are you to say they arent any good.

 

My point being....

While i agree that women should be able to set there own prices and restrictions and worth , there is definitely a problem with fake advertising. How many times do i have to meet someone new that claims to offer GFE and charges high end prices and then i show up to someone who looks nothing like the pictures and delivers a terrible service . Theres nothing wrong with sharing our opinions on this forum with how an experience went . Any provider whos doing there clients right wouldnt have an issue with that

 

I actually have an entire thread already posted that explains how to properly screen a provider before booking her. Nowhere have I said to blindly book someone whose ad seems too good to be true. At some point, clients need to take responsibility for their own choices and safety.

 

I’ve also said I’m not against reviews, as long as they’re done tastefully, respectfully, and not written like porn scripts. Some providers prefer a no-review policy, and that should be respected too. But there are plenty of ways to screen someone before seeing them. Here’s the link:

 

https://www.lyla.ch/topic/214084-how-to-screen-an-indépendant/

 

The issue I raised is not about reviews. It’s about the disrespect of asking whether a woman is "worth it" just because she charges more or calls herself elite. This thread wasn’t a review of one person. It was a collective complaint targeting women who charge higher rates, an entire group of professionals being questioned for valuing themselves.

 

As I said before: if you want to know if someone is "worth it," book her. Then leave a classy, respectful review. But dragging women publicly because their rates don’t match your expectations? That’s not feedback, it’s entitlement.

[Timmy 76]

I've personally given reviews and as a Gen Xer it's always been an uncomfortable thing for me to do.......so I try to keep it simple and not get too personal.  The only review I look for before seeing an SP for the first time is "is she real?"......"does she lie about services?"...."is that her in the pics?" ...everything else is chemistry and often times a client's dissatisfaction can be traced back to the client himself.  The term "worth it"....admittedly hits hard for me too.

 

I have been with SP's who were very highly regarded and the experience was meh.....my ego isn't that great that I can't accept that I'm part of the reason the experience was less than perfect.  My favorite SP is rarely reco'ed and I have seen her on the "scams" thread?...I assure you she's not a scam.....but someone had a less than favorable encounter with her and knowing her as I do, I know who the unfavorable person likely was.... 

 

Can you imagine if we came across a site where SP's judge their clients?  Let's keep in mind that these are all wonderful ladies doing wonderful work......there are SP's I have chosen never to return to.......but having any type of intimacy with a beautiful lady is always worth it!

 

Just my .02 cents