Warning - Reports of a Hailey in Ottawa asking you to pay the driver upfront??

[mod 135639]

I have to post this as THREE of the members have pm'd me about this already and one member actually paid the driver and was ripped off.

 

I can not confirm it first hand but the members here are doing a great job keeping us up to date. This should not be ignored so we need the help of other members here.

 

If you have been asked to pay a "Driver" before seeing the lady it is a scam. You always want to see the lady first as it could be bait and switch or just bait in this case as you go knocking on some poor guys hotel room looking for your date!

Hailey had a Recommendation on here from a reputable member so I find it odd that a reputable SP would do this and risk loosing her reputation (but if a "Driver", "Scam artist" or even a "pimp" has moved in he could be behind this (maybe without her even knowing we don't know for sure). Either way I had to removee the recommendation and post this.

[mod 135639]

Scam info reported to my PM - have any of you had simular issues? If so please PM me the name (or names) of the ladies so we can get to the bottom of this.

 

Details from one member......

- called and i got no answered.

- next day I get a text stating it was her and is available.

- Set up an appt via text

- On the way to the hotel i get another text saying I have to pay her driver for secirety purposes.

- I agree to give him a porton but not all.

 

I NEED TO COMMENT HERE

- It is stupid to give money to anyone other than the lady you are seeing, especially since you have never seen her. This could be a huge bait and switch or a scam like this seams to be.

 

- I meet him and hand over the cash and he tells me a room number.

- I go to that room and no answer.

- text back, no response.

- Hours later I get a text saying they said a wrong room number.

- We arrange to reschedule for the next night

- I get there and text that im here. No response,

- I keep trying for about an hour and nothing.

[Sentimental 281]

Hello:

 

I have found Hailey's add and sent her a PM. Although I did not see her, she wanted the driver to be paid...... that was a "red flag" for me.

 

See following e-mail correspondence:

 

..- On Thu, 2/5/09, fleurette thellend <[email protected]> wrote:

From: fleurette thellend <[email protected]>

Subject: RE: Interested

To:

[email protected]

Received: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:29 PM

 

#yiv1766719757 .hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv1766719757 {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}any whats that i do reqire that you pay my driver befor coming to my room so if thats ok give me a call or get back to me

 

Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:26:49 -0800

From:

[email protected]

Subject: Interested

To:

[email protected]

 

Hello Hailey:

 

I have noticed your add on escorts-canada. Since you have indicated that you are "...... very open minded and up for anything" I was wondering if you could entertain my fantasy ?

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[Guest a**m*s]

I notice her Escorts Canada ad is now gone. I had been interested, so thanks to the members for this.

[mod 135639]

We had her escorts-canada ad suspended when we found out she was doing this. With escorts-canada if you have a problem such as bait and switch or scam like this just click the REPORT PROBLEM button on the ad and let the management know. They will investigate (most likely with the help of cerb) and the ad will be removed. They don't remove the ads right away (if they did they would have the same problem as CL with the competition flagging everyone else's ads) but if they get enough legit complaints they do pull the ads.

[Guest a**m*s]

Thanks mod - good to know.

[Guest **st t***s @]

funny, teh hailey girl was definately real, friends with another provider who was member on here also

i know she was new to the game, so guessing it wasnt really her doing this , or at least not doing the scam thing without being coached

i told her to go indy, that would have been awesome to keep hooking up with her

[jdstar 1065]

She's on Quest using the same scam. She says that for security you have to pay her "agent" before you get to the room. I thought that seemed kind of odd. (and lacked discretion). As a footnote, I hadn't been on quest for about a year - it seems pretty weak.

[Guest **st t***s @]

She's on Quest using the same scam. She says that for security you have to pay her "agent" before you get to the room. I thought that seemed kind of odd. (and lacked discretion). As a footnote, I hadn't been on quest for about a year - it seems pretty weak.

 

yeah she had been on quest before she was on ec, though have not heard hailey as i knew her on quest lately

 

mod, i noticed that her oringinal ec ad had her what i knew as oringinal phone number and email, that ad dissappeared and then came up again with same pics, new number and email

i am guessing currently that her friend who was bbw who had hard time getting calls is actually impersonating hailey, and running this scam, as i understand hailey has decided that thios business was not for her

[mod 135639]

It is possible but unless someone knows for sure we should not assume anything.

[Guest **st t***s @]

It is possible but unless someone knows for sure we should not assume anything.

 

thanks mod, for providing a voice of reason

[YoungStud 468]

unless someone knows for sure we should not assume anything.

 

Excellent words to live by.

[GiantJeanFerre 111]

I had seen her the weekend before these shenanigans started. I asked how she got started in this - she said a male friend explained it to her, got her started - then wanted 1/2 the income. She had dropped him...perhaps this is his payback - especially since someone mentioned the tel # & email had changed.

[randy36 1078]

Guys,

 

I met Haily on 17th Dec (or around day) when she put her ad for very first time on EC. Her friend Emma was near her and I saw Emma adding a recommendation forleave the room when I parked my Van in front of her Motel room. My full experience was wonderfully amazing and I wanted to repeat. She was a sexy gem who wanted to please me every minute.

 

But seeing this middleman problem I wasn't sure. But I called her anyways a couple of days back and asked her point blank if I have to deal with her agent and she replied yes. Then I told her that I or anybody from cerb don't want to deal with her agent and its a big no.

 

Later she send me a text saying that I can deal directly with her but she will handover the money to her agent, to this I texted back with polite no.

 

I think Mod has already pulled down the recommendation which is very right thing to do. If she was hurt by one bad apple, there are other ways to be cautious like checking the $$ envelope instead of fooling with us.

[spud271 47779]

I find this all very disturbing, but not surprising. The same thing happend to one of my friends in Toronto. It is a situation of live and learn, just move on from it. Fortunately the women in Ottawa as a whole are very honest and don't play games. Just chalk this up as experience.

[whatsup 11893]

Randy36

Do not feel bad about adding a recommendation for Hailey you saw her and had a good time and you even wanted to repeat.

What ever transpired with her to need to have a middleman has affected her business in a negative way.

I had pm you about her as I was interested in seeing her but I was not going to deal with the middleman. Thank you for your replies back.

[d*mm*y 887]

I would assume that Hailey was long gone and the pimp continued to use her name as long as he could and it caught up to him. Do we know any other associations to this name or person i.e. who is Emma? Because this pimp will probably continue to recruit ladies and may do this again with a different girl if he can.

[randy36 1078]

I spoke to Haily on 13th and could recoganize her voice.

 

Haily and Emma were doing escorting together since last fall/winter and used various web sites.

 

http://www.classifiedsottawa.ca/ads/200812/ottawa-sweet-seductive-girls-ad-41712/

[haley_smith 110]

Hello All,

 

I have heard this nasty rumor , and I hope this is not referring to me!! I am new hear and have not done anything of this sort. But the email is different and the name is spelt hailey and mine haley...so it is not me! so dont think im a fake or trying to rip you off please!!! i love cerb ;)

 

 

xoxoxo haley xooxoxo

[Guest **st t***s @]

Later she send me a text saying that I can deal directly with her but she will handover the money to her agent, to this I texted back with polite no.

 

well well, its actaullay Hailey doing this, usaully its other people, her female agent, guess agent never does ohhhhhhh69

anyway she is back, in west end i understand, and she is using different names, she will ofer to meet people she knows, but will just leave with teh money when paid upfront, of course slightly in public with a car right by with who knows whos inside

 

anyway basic rule, never pay upfront, and never to an agent...

[rickoshadows 937]

Sounds like someone under the thumb of some pimp. Hopefully she will find the will and a way to get out of this situation.

[Dr. Tripod 100]

I spoke to Haily on 13th and could recoganize her voice.

 

Haily and Emma were doing escorting together since last fall/winter and used various web sites.

 

http://www.classifiedsottawa.ca/ads/200812/ottawa-sweet-seductive-girls-ad-41712/

 

 

I know the Emma girl personally and this would'nt surprise me one little bit

[SweetNSingle 100]

Hey this is her BBW Friend Also known as Emma. . . . Just to clarify with everyone, I apoligize for those who have fallen for this scam, But I have not worked with Hailey for About 3 or 4 months Now...So again I hope no one else falls for her crap.. Have A Great Day

[Guest **st t***s @]

Hey this is her BBW Friend Also known as Emma. . . . Just to clarify with everyone, I apoligize for those who have fallen for this scam, But I have not worked with Hailey for About 3 or 4 months Now...So again I hope no one else falls for her crap.. Have A Great Day

 

i can agree with sweetnsingle here, never saw her around suspect hotel being used, was not in car that showed up and phone numbers were different than any Emma has ever used.

it is weird that Hailey was doign so good then started doing this , do not think at present for about 2 weeks now that she or another girl, not emma, were trying scam on quest again

shame really cause hailey could have been a regular