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Each visit to a lady is unique. I see mostly incall ladies and they've done a variety of things to make the non-sexual aspects each date a good time. The following is a list of some of the things I like to make the overall experience more enjoyable. No date would have all of these, but rather its a collection of things ladies can do to make our times more enjoyable. For you other guys (or ladies), feel free to add your own ideas or experiences.

 

Booking a suite. I love the ladies that spend a little extra to book a suite instead of a regular hotel room. It gives the opportunity to spend time on the sofa talking and then heading to the bedroom. It just helps it feel more like a date.

 

No TV. If a lady is watching tv before I arrive - turn if off when I knock. I listen to those idiot boxes enough at home. I want a break.

 

Be ready, rested and clean. Give enough time between meetings to shower, do your make-up and hair. Even if I'm not the first you've seen that day I want to feel that way. Emotional rest is also just as important so you can give me your attention.

 

Turn off and put away your business cell phone. I understand that many ladies keep two phones and keep their personal ones on. That is fine but have them in a discrete place.

 

Bags in closets. Don't have bags and clothes all over chairs or the other beds. Keep the whole room or suite calm and relaxing. It also gives less of a feeling of the meeting being arranged and temporary.

 

Good conversation. Some ladies are not good conversationalists. Others ramble non-stop about themselves. The best are the ones that ask me questions about myself and take an honest interest in my what I saw and are interested enough to ask follow-up questions. Usually there is then a gradual opening up as they reveal a bit about themselves in response. The really good ones remember these things about me and come the next date things keep developing.

 

Some wine or something else to drink. Its nice to have something to drink while talking and some ladies have made it a point to have one or two beverage options available. I don't mind if the lady chooses not drink. I find a glass of wine quite relaxing and enjoyable. Simple foods are also great, who can say no to strawberries and chocolate sauce.

 

A lady that starts with her clothes on. Some ladies have you shower and meet you fully undressed - not my cup of tea. I like the anticipation of meeting her clothed and undressing her. Of course a lady the meets me in very sexy lingerie is quite fine. A strip tease also works wonderfully. In general I like the shower to be optional. If I've literally showered before going over, I don't feel I should be made to take one. It can be a bit of a mood killer. I prefer the more natural course of kissing and undressing.

 

Mood music. This just doesn't happen enough. Ladies bring an iPod and speakers or laptop on speakers and have a variety of playlists on hand. We guys are of different ages and musical tastes so have a variety on hand. Have each playlist at least 1 1/2 hours long so it doesn't end or have to be changed half-way through. For ladies in suites, have the music in the bedroom.

 

Subtle lighting. Give the room a subtle mood. Glaring overhead lights, bright windows or the horrible lights on the bedstands are not great for the mood. If you cannot arrange subtle lighting think about bring one a light of your own. We want to see you but not feel to overly exposed ourselves.

 

Massages - both giving and receiving work great either before or after sex. Have some real massage oil on hand but also understand some gents cannot leave smelling much different than when they arrived.

 

Don't rush. I know whats reasonable for the timeframe I've booked. If for one reason or another the sex parts finishes quicker, make me feel relaxed and enjoying the rest of my time. Offer another drink, ask for a massage or lay with me and make me feel relaxed.

 

After the sex. One girl I knew would go to the bathroom and return with a facecloth warmed with very hot water and a tissue. I would still be on the bed, take the condom off myself and she would take it in the tissue. Then she would gently wash my dick with the hot facecloth. This felt wonderful and made me feel very pampered.

 

Ultimately its more than the sex - its about a break from everyday life, feeling relaxed, making emotional connections and feeling a bit pampered. We know its not a real date but the greater the illusion, the better.

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Massages - both giving and receiving work great either before or after sex. Have some real massage oil on hand but also understand some gents cannot leave smelling much different than when they arrive.

 

 

I have to agree with this. If you are going to have massage oils and shower gels, please find something that is not a strong scent. I know you may like the smell of it and most times we will too but chances are we don't have this at home. I have had to think fast before because of strong smelling massage oils. I can't go home smelling of apricot or some other fruity smell.

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Being a non-smoker, I very much appreciate a smoke-free environment for an incall. This is something I always confirm in advance, however and that the lady is also a non-smoker. I just don't care for the smell of stale smoke. I would certainly welcome everything as listed by OFF.

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These are all good points. Visiting a clean place is always good.

 

I really like the girls that keep the bathroom and shower clean as well. It's very comforting to go take a shower after an hour or more with a beautiful woman and not find a pile of used towels on the floor or hanging on the door. I know that I may not be the first visitor she has had that day or evening, but not finding another used towel around sure makes me feel like I am.

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I very much agree with the comments. You the nail right on the head as to what makes a great date with an SP, or any date for that matter.

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I do my incalls out of my apartment and I do try to keep it as clean as possible when having clients over.

 

I keep the bathroom spotless, and always have fresh towels. I keep a supply of washcloths handy for clean-up.

 

Sadly, I don't usually have beverages to offer.

 

I must say though, I LOVE LOVE music, I should put together a sexy playlist for next time.

 

I like to get to know my gentlemen callers, so I usually always start with "couch time." Today I had a really good convo about ultraviolent Asian thrillers since he'd seen one of my favourites. Sometimes things heat up on the couch and generally I move it to the bedroom, where there is more room and it's less awkward in terms of positioning.

 

Most of all though, I play it by ear. Every guy is different. It helps if you're fairly intuitive, to be able to read your clients unspoken mood. I want you to have a good time and it will linger and nag me if I think for any reason that you might have been disappointed (what can I say, I'm a perfectionist!).

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What a great post, I am hoping this has not resulted due to any bad experiences- in any case getting this out there is a great idea as this definitely will help many providers including myself to remember all the little details. So much work goes into creating the perfect atmosphere and connection with each client and you have definitely hit the mark with this overview of what makes a great experience even better! (sidenote:A great show about SPs called Secret Diary of a Call Girl has tons of great advice in the first season especially)

 

I think these all-important aspects are just as important in the realm of the MP experience... Relaxing music, clean and inviting atmosphere, unscented products, lighting, conversation skills and a few more of the ones you mentioned Outforfun are just as important in a massage incall as well.

 

Myself and a handful of other Ottawa MPs- CMJ, Michelle, Krissy- approach our incall sessions in a very similar manner that you have described OFF- Michelle even going so far as to book a jacuzzi suite over Valentine's- wish I had thought of that!! I have also heard many clients as recently as today comment on some of the great conversations that they have had with MPs as well as the other little things that make the experience so much more memorable.

 

One thing I want to add to your list is that discretion is always important too- not having clients booked so close together that they pass in the halls, provider answering the door before the client has a chance to knock to reduce noise, knowing the appropriate way to contact the client and also dressing appropriately when off the clock at a hotel- I have seen some very obvious SPs walking around hotels often- not very good for discretion!

 

Curious if this posting was inspired by a great session or a hodge-podge of aspects from different SPs- If the former then I hope you have also written a spectacular review, and I take a guess that is was Emma-Alexandra... ; )

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Yes, as Bethany stated, discretion is important also.

 

I sometimes find it hard to tread the fine line between classy and "obvious SP." I'm quite fond of very high heels and I love to wear them to calls, as they make my legs look much longer than they are, and as well, I feel so sexy in them! But I did have a client ask me to wear something less trashy (I was actually somewhat insulted, I didn't think I looked trashy at all) next time to avoid stares from hotel staff. I had on a coat which covered the dress I was wearing, and I had on cherry red high heels. Maybe the shoes were too much, but trashy? That's pushing it. I could have been anyone returning to their room after a night out dancing.

 

Ha so that turned into a rant, which was unintended. But yes, sometimes I think everyone must know I'm an escort (I usually think this when passing aggressively staring hotel staff).

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Gotta love an attractive, intelligent, intuitive perfectionist in sky high heels! :wink:

 

I do my incalls out of my apartment and I do try to keep it as clean as possible when having clients over.

 

I keep the bathroom spotless, and always have fresh towels. I keep a supply of washcloths handy for clean-up.

 

Sadly, I don't usually have beverages to offer.

 

I must say though, I LOVE LOVE music, I should put together a sexy playlist for next time.

 

I like to get to know my gentlemen callers, so I usually always start with "couch time." Today I had a really good convo about ultraviolent Asian thrillers since he'd seen one of my favourites. Sometimes things heat up on the couch and generally I move it to the bedroom, where there is more room and it's less awkward in terms of positioning.

 

Most of all though, I play it by ear. Every guy is different. It helps if you're fairly intuitive, to be able to read your clients unspoken mood. I want you to have a good time and it will linger and nag me if I think for any reason that you might have been disappointed (what can I say, I'm a perfectionist!).

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Sweetest Massage - thanks for your kind comments. Its definitely been from a hodge-podge of different experiences (I haven't had the pleasure of a visit to Emma). I also hadn't thought about the fact that the same comments hold true for massage incalls. Your additional points are also excellent.

 

Times are getting tougher now and I'd like to see the current top notch crop of ladies we have in Ottawa right now succeed for as long as they choose to be in the business. The better the non-sexual aspects of the date, the longer the sessions the gents will book.

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Outforfun,

 

Fantastic post and have to agree with your sentiments.

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Yes, as Bethany stated, discretion is important also.

I did have a client ask me to wear something less trashy (I was actually somewhat insulted, I didn't think I looked trashy at all) next time to avoid stares from hotel staff. I had on a coat which covered the dress I was wearing, and I had on cherry red high heels. Maybe the shoes were too much, but trashy? That's pushing it. I could have been anyone returning to their room after a night out dancing.

 

And considering brightly colored stilettos are back in style right now, you very well could be.

 

That said, I like those high heels with jeans more than a dress, but hey, that's my kink. Erin, if we ever meet you can wear those heels anytime! :boobies:

 

OutForFun, great post. YMMV on chemistry, and what's on offer, but it's the little details like you listed that make the difference on whether I repeat with someone or not.

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Great Post!

 

I agree with everything you said, I especially like to slowly undress my SP. I will some times ask for a specific type of outfit, as I love to unwrap the present very slowly.

 

Two items I like and have asked for; a bottle of water is nice to have, and mouth wash in the bathroom.

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The SP I frequent provides the perfect environment very similar to the top of the tread. She is perfection except the wine that I feel is my role, I always bring an excellent vintage wine. It works for us and I know she appreciates it.

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A lady that starts with her clothes on. Some ladies have you shower and meet you fully undressed - not my cup of tea. I like the anticipation of meeting her clothed and undressing her. Of course a lady the meets me in very sexy lingerie is quite fine. A strip tease also works wonderfully. In general I like the shower to be optional. If I've literally showered before going over, I don't feel I should be made to take one. It can be a bit of a mood killer. I prefer the more natural course of kissing and undressing.

 

 

 

Massages - both giving and receiving work great either before or after sex. Have some real massage oil on hand but also understand some gents cannot leave smelling much different than when they arrived.

 

I totally agree with your post. I would add that some very neutral smelling soap for the after shower is also very important to offer your clients. There is 2 things my wife can smell a mile a way. Some other woman's pussy juice all over my face or body and soap she didn't buy. If I don't take a shower at the SP's place, then I end up having to stop off at the gym before going home.

 

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That sucks! Sounds like too much work to me, hence why I stay single!

 

I totally agree with your post. I would add that some very neutral smelling soap for the after shower is also very important to offer your clients. There is 2 things my wife can smell a mile a way. Some other woman's pussy juice all over my face or body and soap she didn't buy. If I don't take a shower at the SP's place, then I end up having to stop off at the gym before going home.

 

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It's up to the guys to do a lot of this stuff too!

 

We need to be showered, or prepared to shower there. If we don't have a beard (does anyone actually have a beard nowadays?) we should be clean shaven. I shave my cock and balls too, but I realize not every guy does that....but the ladies love it and I love it too!

 

I try to bring a couple of cold bottles of water with me and when possible I bring a small gift like chocolates or whatever the lady likes (research a bit on their website or whatever first). Not always though, sometimes I think my donation is good enough....depends how rich I'm feeling I guess.

 

Anyhow, good communication is key right? A few emails back and forth before a date is a good idea.

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I provide a date experience for when I receive clients - both in Montreal and in other cities. This includes all of the things listed in the original post. I love playing hostess for my guests.

 

Though there are occasional exceptions - i.e. wine is typically not offered for early morning appointments.

 

I try to have neutral soap available - though I know of 1 gentlemen who travels with a little toiletries bag with his own soap and antiperspirent so he does not have to worry about smelling diffeerntly. Smart move on his part.

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It was very evident today that 2 SP's that I visited today pay no attention to these threads. It was to be an hour long duo, but ended up being a half hour duo, simply of the fact the 3 cell phones were continually ringing, what was worse..One Sp was answering while I was drilling the other SP and she was of course yelling out..Ohhh ohhh.fuck yes..harder..faster..ohhhhh FUCK

 

Un-f@#king believeable, it was not fun. Anyways, I left with a half hour the envelope contained the full hour donation + I put a tip in there:x...so as the title reads...live and learn, but I thought they would had more common sense.PM if you need to know.

 

btw- I counted 8 phone calls once I walked in the door.

 

Each visit to a lady is unique. I see mostly incall ladies and they've done a variety of things to make the non-sexual aspects each date a good time. The following is a list of some of the things I like to make the overall experience more enjoyable. No date would have all of these, but rather its a collection of things ladies can do to make our times more enjoyable. For you other guys (or ladies), feel free to add your own ideas or experiences.

 

Booking a suite. I love the ladies that spend a little extra to book a suite instead of a regular hotel room. It gives the opportunity to spend time on the sofa talking and then heading to the bedroom. It just helps it feel more like a date.

 

No TV. If a lady is watching tv before I arrive - turn if off when I knock. I listen to those idiot boxes enough at home. I want a break.

 

Be ready, rested and clean. Give enough time between meetings to shower, do your make-up and hair. Even if I'm not the first you've seen that day I want to feel that way. Emotional rest is also just as important so you can give me your attention.

 

Turn off and put away your business cell phone. I understand that many ladies keep two phones and keep their personal ones on. That is fine but have them in a discrete place.

 

Bags in closets. Don't have bags and clothes all over chairs or the other beds. Keep the whole room or suite calm and relaxing. It also gives less of a feeling of the meeting being arranged and temporary.

 

Good conversation. Some ladies are not good conversationalists. Others ramble non-stop about themselves. The best are the ones that ask me questions about myself and take an honest interest in my what I saw and are interested enough to ask follow-up questions. Usually there is then a gradual opening up as they reveal a bit about themselves in response. The really good ones remember these things about me and come the next date things keep developing.

 

Some wine or something else to drink. Its nice to have something to drink while talking and some ladies have made it a point to have one or two beverage options available. I don't mind if the lady chooses not drink. I find a glass of wine quite relaxing and enjoyable. Simple foods are also great, who can say no to strawberries and chocolate sauce.

 

A lady that starts with her clothes on. Some ladies have you shower and meet you fully undressed - not my cup of tea. I like the anticipation of meeting her clothed and undressing her. Of course a lady the meets me in very sexy lingerie is quite fine. A strip tease also works wonderfully. In general I like the shower to be optional. If I've literally showered before going over, I don't feel I should be made to take one. It can be a bit of a mood killer. I prefer the more natural course of kissing and undressing.

 

Mood music. This just doesn't happen enough. Ladies bring an iPod and speakers or laptop on speakers and have a variety of playlists on hand. We guys are of different ages and musical tastes so have a variety on hand. Have each playlist at least 1 1/2 hours long so it doesn't end or have to be changed half-way through. For ladies in suites, have the music in the bedroom.

 

Subtle lighting. Give the room a subtle mood. Glaring overhead lights, bright windows or the horrible lights on the bedstands are not great for the mood. If you cannot arrange subtle lighting think about bring one a light of your own. We want to see you but not feel to overly exposed ourselves.

 

Massages - both giving and receiving work great either before or after sex. Have some real massage oil on hand but also understand some gents cannot leave smelling much different than when they arrived.

 

Don't rush. I know whats reasonable for the timeframe I've booked. If for one reason or another the sex parts finishes quicker, make me feel relaxed and enjoying the rest of my time. Offer another drink, ask for a massage or lay with me and make me feel relaxed.

 

After the sex. One girl I knew would go to the bathroom and return with a facecloth warmed with very hot water and a tissue. I would still be on the bed, take the condom off myself and she would take it in the tissue. Then she would gently wash my dick with the hot facecloth. This felt wonderful and made me feel very pampered.

 

Ultimately its more than the sex - its about a break from everyday life, feeling relaxed, making emotional connections and feeling a bit pampered. We know its not a real date but the greater the illusion, the better.

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ouch!....PP...that is bad......hopefully they will read this and see they lost a great client....wow....

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Great post and so true. It is all about the total overall experience that stimulates every one of your senses that make it a memorable one...not just about the act itself. And true...it does work both ways.

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You pretty well summed it up with "Un-f@#king believable, it was not fun."

 

Really, I hope that they take a hint when you left early.

 

It was very evident today that 2 SP's that I visited today pay no attention to these threads. It was to be an hour long duo, but ended up being a half hour duo, simply of the fact the 3 cell phones were continually ringing, what was worse..One Sp was answering while I was drilling the other SP and she was of course yelling out..Ohhh ohhh.fuck yes..harder..faster..ohhhhh FUCK

 

Un-f@#king believeable, it was not fun. Anyways, I left with a half hour the envelope contained the full hour donation + I put a tip in there:x...so as the title reads...live and learn, but I thought they would had more common sense.PM if you need to know.

 

btw- I counted 8 phone calls once I walked in the door.

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Is this question directed at us women, too? No? Doesn't matter, I'll tell you anyway ;)

 

For me the non-sexual benefits of a good session are twofold.

 

One is when I can tell a guy really-really needed it. Sometimes you can see the incredulous look on their faces like "is this possible that someone can touch me like this?"

The reason could be because he is old, shy, has a handicap, or is neglected in his relationship.

I just had one of those yesterday. A busy handyman guy, tired, I could tell he was hungry for a gentle touch and told me a few times how happy he was for having found me. He said he used to go to massage parlours and most of the time the experience was rushed or he could tell the girls didn't want to be there..... He said he picked me because of my age and he was walking on clouds when leaving. :)

 

OK, enough of blowing my own horn LOL

 

The other positive aspect of a session is when I have a nice conversation with the client (only if he initiates) and I learn something new about his country, his art, interesting profession or business.

 

I love to learn new things and, although I never encourage talk about unrelated subjects, it is always nice when it happens.

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Is this question directed at us women, too? No? Doesn't matter, I'll tell you anyway ;)

 

For me the non-sexual benefits of a good session are twofold.

 

One is when I can tell a guy really-really needed it. Sometimes you can see the incredulous look on their faces like "is this possible that someone can touch me like this?"

The reason could be because he is old, shy, has a handicap, or is neglected in his relationship.

I just had one of those yesterday. A busy handyman guy, tired, I could tell he was hungry for a gentle touch and told me a few times how happy he was for having found me. He said he used to go to massage parlours and most of the time the experience was rushed or he could tell the girls didn't want to be there..... He said he picked me because of my age and he was walking on clouds when leaving. :)

 

OK, enough of blowing my own horn LOL

 

The other positive aspect of a session is when I have a nice conversation with the client (only if he initiates) and I learn something new about his country, his art, interesting profession or business.

 

I love to learn new things and, although I never encourage talk about unrelated subjects, it is always nice when it happens.

 

 

I agree. I like when a man is genuinely appreciative.

 

I, too, like to learn new things (particularly about people, what can I say, I'm somewhat of an anthropologist), so when my clients share a bit of themselves, it's always nice, especially since I'm pretty open about my life and background.

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I can never understand why someone would think it's a good idea to answer the phone during someone else's time. Unbelievable.

 

Anyway, back to the main topic. I'm pleased to say that I pass OFF's checklist plus. And I wanted to say that I thought it was well thought out and well presented. Thank you, OFF!

 

Our time together should be the most sensual of experiences. That doesn't just mean sex but accoutrements that tickle all the senses: slightly scented room, candles, soft sexy music, refreshments, entertaining conversation, a relaxed and intuitive partner, lingerie, mouthwash, antibiotic and unscented soaps, fresh sheets & towels, hot cloths, etc. There's so much that makes for the perfect visit but you get the idea.

 

Engaging all the senses is what makes a good time great, IMHO.

 

Thanks for the reminder.

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