MA vs SP

[luvtopoon 170]

Ok guys, I need your feedback. I see a lot of activity in the massage section. Correct me if I am wrong but the cost of an hour massage is near the cost of full service - no? Are the massage services that good? Interested in hearing your perspective.

 

From a guy from out of town and the massages sucked big time from where he was at.

[Slammer 303]

IMO it depends on what you are looking for. Sometimes I'm in the mood for an SP, other times I'm in the mood for an MA. Once in a while the line becomes a bit blurry and you see one but end up with an experience that you consider to be more in line with what you expected from the other.

 

Some of the MAs, and I say some because I haven't seen a great quantity of them, are so good at what they do that they keep you on edge for so long that you find yourself wishing it didn't have to end in spite of the relief you get from the conclusion.

 

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[WriteOn 3250]

Ok guys, I need your feedback. I see a lot of activity in the massage section. Correct me if I am wrong but the cost of an hour massage is near the cost of full service - no?

 

You cannot get "full service" at a massage parlor, that would be illegal.

 

Secondly, the cost for an hour massage would be between 50-80 dollars, if you can find full service with an escort for that much I would suggest you run, not walk away.

[Cleo Catra 178382]

You cannot get "full service" at a massage parlor, that would be illegal.

 

Secondly, the cost for an hour massage would be between 50-80 dollars, if you can find full service with an escort for that much I would suggest you run, not walk away.

 

First point is bang on, so that's the biggest difference in 'MA vs SP' - what service are you looking for? :)

 

Second point doesn't include the in-room tip though... most spas will charge 50-80 door fee for a one-hour massage, but that doesn't include your hostess tip which could be anywhere from 80-140 (or more or less, I'm just giving a general idea but can't speak for the lovely spa attendants myself :) )

[Guest webothscore]

Ok guys, I need your feedback. I see a lot of activity in the massage section. Correct me if I am wrong but the cost of an hour massage is near the cost of full service - no? Are the massage services that good? Interested in hearing your perspective.

 

From a guy from out of town and the massages sucked big time from where he was at.

 

If you include the door fee at a parlour, yes, the overall amount seems to be closer, but if you really want to see somebody ... It's all about the type of service you want when the mood strikes. That thought crossed my mind long ago, but you can always consider indie as well. Parlour, indie and full service providers all have their advantages. Ultimately, researching a lady's profile, recommendations and day-to-day vibe you get from her on cerb plays a big part in most people's decisions.

[Guest c**io**m7]

It definitely depends on what you are looking for, agreed. And, yes, the overall cost of the two can be similar but...the experiences should be very different. When seeing sp, of course the expectation is sex, oral and fs. If seeing an ma, expect closeness and intimacy that is very sensual in nature, no sex, especially at a spa location.

 

Is one better than the other? Depends on mood. If you want to get laid, go see sp. If you want sexual tensions released as part of a sensual overload, go see ma.

[IsaMassage 54318]

There has been some discussion about SP vs MA in the past... There is no such a compaeison between SP and MA services as they are both different... there is not one better than the other.. they are simply different and both are worth what they both offer... rates can range between 120 to 180 depending on the lenght of the appointment (thats an average being indy or working for a spa)

My suggestion to find out whether MA services are or not for you... is to take the plunge... like many others that were non MA believers did... and you may be surprised ;-) ;-) .... you can ask some that did ;-)

[whiteman 14028]

Ok guys, I need your feedback. I see a lot of activity in the massage section. Correct me if I am wrong but the cost of an hour massage is near the cost of full service - no? Are the massage services that good? Interested in hearing your perspective.

 

From a guy from out of town and the massages sucked big time from where he was at.

Overall, the cheapest MA services cost between $100 to $160 (including door fee and tip), but the cheapest SP services cost between $140 to $200. So other than a small $20 overlap, I don't know why you think an MA costs the same as an SP? Anyways, in my eyes, there is a definite cost advantage to seeing MA's over SP's.

[barber 110]

Gents, we are not talking about commodities here and I'm compelled to note that this is not in good taste nor really necessary. Such things are between consenting adults and should remain so; and such questions are widely known by those who need to know on this site and elsewhere. Point final!

[Sensual Erin 33898]

I must agree and thank you for taking the time to speak up. This question is not off to the best start. There is no "versus" between an SP or MA. They are both completely different experiences. There's being tactful and asking questions, but I get the impression as well the question was asked for members to explain why they do visit MA's, and for MA's to justify our services and rates? I think that's up to the OP to do his research, read the recommendations, and not challenge the activity and great feedback in the massage area.

 

If I am approached in this manner by an inquiry, I will most likely not be booking with them.

 

 

 

Gents, we are not talking about commodities here and I'm compelled to note that this is not in good taste nor really necessary. Such things are between consenting adults and should remain so; and such questions are widely known by those who need to know on this site and elsewhere. Point final!

[Guest c**io**m7]

I am with barber on this one.

 

Come on...MA or SP? You are paying to spend time in the company of a beautiful and wonderful woman. You are not paying for a "service", but rather an experience. Do you want to experience sexual or sensual? What makes a sensual MA worth less than an SP? Absolutely nothing!!

Try this. Pick a SP, a well recoed sp, and go see her. Then, pick a well recoed ma who insists there are no "extras". Come back to this thread and report. I bet you will answer your own question.

 

As far as I am concerned, most MAs in Ottawa don't charge enough...even without fs or oral.

[someguy 67067]

I enjoy both MA and SP's. However I do tend to see more MA's then SP's.

I find the GFE Ma experience more sensual. And I do have muscle pain a lot so I really do enjoy the first half hour of someone who can rub the pain away. Most MA's are beautiful girls who love their job and enjoy giving pleasure. They kiss a lot and seduce and tease. The body slides are sensual, and I enjoy the before and after shower time. It's a total experience for the whole hour, they know how to prolong the pleasure till the last minute. It's not full service, but almost but can be more erotic when you are in the hands of a experienced MA. I found the best overall experience to be MA's that work for or used to work for CMJ, they seem to be trained in the art of seduction and teasing. If you haven't tried massage, give it a try. They are worth the money. It's hard work to massage for an hour. But then every once in a while. I do need to see an SP for a different type of experience. But some MA's or SP's can do both, shower fun, massage, bodyslides and then finished with Full service. I've done this before, and it is the best of both worlds.

If you haven't had a GFE Massage, try it once and you may be hooked.

[WriteOn 3250]

As far as I am concerned, most MAs in Ottawa don't charge enough...even without fs or oral.

 

CERB is a wonderful place for providers.

[blue_eyes56 2010]

I think the OP's question is better than people give him credit for. Three well-known and respected escort agencies offer a good variety of women at the $200/hr rate while the top massage spas are $180/hr, so the rates are not that different.

 

The experiences are different, but often it comes down to the woman and what they're like. Some MA's offer amazing experiences that can be incredibly sensual without needing to be mileage based. In fact, sometimes they are more sensual because they're not about mileage. However, most MA's are not like that, and it's hard to imagine many (any?) sessions without kissing or lots of mutual touching being as much fun as ones that allow/encourage it. I think that's just the truth. I'm not as experienced on the SP side, but I have found some very sensual escorts who enjoy sessions that naturally evolve without following a menu.

 

In short, a GFE MA session can be great, but there's a decent chance it might not be, while an escort will provide more things but may not be as naturally sensual. I think it really comes down to the individual woman.

[Guest ChantalSummers]

Being an MA myself, I am more then happy to explain the difference. Of course knowing the market quite well, I know that the rates are pretty similar in the Ottawa area of course depending who you go for. Let's as hobbyists and service providers keep in mind that one is not better than the other or of more value. It really all depends on the type of service you joyfully seek. For a more sensual, relaxing experience one would opt for MA. If mileage is your goal and you joyfully seek msog, pse, and hardcore activities you would opt for an sp. From what I have read and enjoying adding to my lists of services as well gfe is a service that both sp's and ma's can share. An emphasis on "can" being that it's not black and white and many individuals whether they are sp's or ma's either offer this service or don't. And gfe is a bit of a grey area as it can range from kissing, hugging, cuddling, bbbj, cbj, and fs. Your best bet it is to read the profiles to whom you seek, recommendations, websites, and as well as open the lines of communication and ask for a more detailed list of services to be the most successful. Also opening the lines of communication can really establish a bit of chemistry before your first session and you will really see the girl in question's personality shine through. Through my personal experience in this industry (although its not much as I joined in June) although looks are very important and ideal, personality really makes a difference ;)... This is of course keeping in mind that mutual respect is earned and both parties agree on discretion.

[Robynxoxo 10509]

"You are paying to spend time in the company of a beautiful and wonderful woman. You are not paying for a "service", but rather an experience."

 

Very nicely said curiousm7 :)

[IsaMassage 54318]

Being an MA myself, I am more then happy to explain the difference. Of course knowing the market quite well, I know that the rates are pretty similar in the Ottawa area of course depending who you go for. Let's as hobbyists and service providers keep in mind that one is not better than the other or of more value. It really all depends on the type of service you joyfully seek. For a more sensual, relaxing experience one would opt for MA. If mileage is your goal and you joyfully seek msog, pse, and hardcore activities you would opt for an sp. From what I have read and enjoying adding to my lists of services as well gfe is a service that both sp's and ma's can share. An emphasis on "can" being that it's not black and white and many individuals whether they are sp's or ma's either offer this service or don't. And gfe is a bit of a grey area as it can range from kissing, hugging, cuddling, bbbj, cbj, and fs. Your best bet it is to read the profiles to whom you seek, recommendations, websites, and as well as open the lines of communication and ask for a more detailed list of services to be the most successful. Also opening the lines of communication can really establish a bit of chemistry before your first session and you will really see the girl in question's personality shine through. Through my personal experience in this industry (although its not much as I joined in June) although looks are very important and ideal, personality really makes a difference ;)... This is of course keeping in mind that mutual respect is earned and both parties agree on discretion.

 

 

I have to disagree on the statement that GFE is in a gray area, as it has nothing to do with services offered but rather an experience.., about feelings that arise from an encouther being MA or SP...

[niceplayer 120]

I am with barber on this one.

 

Come on...MA or SP? You are paying to spend time in the company of a beautiful and wonderful woman. You are not paying for a "service", but rather an experience. Do you want to experience sexual or sensual? What makes a sensual MA worth less than an SP? Absolutely nothing!!

Try this. Pick a SP, a well recoed sp, and go see her. Then, pick a well recoed ma who insists there are no "extras". Come back to this thread and report. I bet you will answer your own question.

 

As far as I am concerned, most MAs in Ottawa don't charge enough...even without fs or oral.

Thought you only seen ONE ma so far, wonder why you think most don't charge enough.

[Guest c**io**m7]

Thought you only seen ONE ma so far, wonder why you think most don't charge enough.

 

Well, my good man...I have many friends, here and elsewhere and we talk. You are correct, I have only seen one but, from the stories shared in conversation with my buds, there is an overwhelming lean towards the MA experience and the common theme has been that the rates are often less than they expected based on the pure closeness felt during the session.

 

Would you be more comfortable if I use the word "many" instead of "most"?

[Guest ChantalSummers]

Disagreements are natural and it's impossible to agree on everything, Passionvitto. I totally understand though. However I believe that by the gent inquiring on what services the lady in question offers he is getting a basic idea of what his overall experience will be like during the time he books. This is not to be interpreted as black and white that the experience overall solely depends on services offered. That's not true at all. I also mentioned personality plays a huge role, which can aid in adding just the right welcoming, warm vibe to create a beautiful experience. Best of luck and success in your searches, gents!! Here on cerb, there are many lovely ladies to choose from that are fully committed to making all your wildest fantasies because a picture perfect reality ;-)!!

[Guest c**io**m7]

On the way home, I was thinking of this thread and, Robyn, you have said everything (almost) that I wanted to say.

 

To the OP: my Cerb brother, MA and SP should be two very different experiences...okay, maybe 3. (Indy MA vs spa MA)

 

I would like to modify my initial suggestion. Put some bucks aside...call a few SPs and ask for the services you want, maybe even a massage to go with it...go see her and have fun. Contact an indy MA, go see her and have fun. Contact a spa MA, be sure there are no sp services, go see her and have fun. Only then can you know what you like.

 

I am a seasoned hobbyist and was a die-hard SP guy. My mind was closed to the MA experience because, for almost the same money, I could get bj and fs from a SP. I finally took the plunge and visited a GFEMA who made it abundantly clear..."no fs, no oral". After the first visit, I was hooked and have returned many times. Each time gets hotter and hotter but...no fs, no oral and I leave smiling, bounce in my step and planning my next visit.

 

MA is not for everyone. SP is not for everyone. You want to know the difference? Jump in with both feet, an open mind, respect for limits and have a great time!!!

[luvtopoon 170]

I want to thank everyone by their honest opinion on this topic. Curiousm7's last comments remind me of my situation. I was always an SP guy and was curious about the MA side. I feel that my needs are more on the sensual side and will be definitely contacting some of the fine ladies in this fair city for MA services.

 

Thanks all

[Guest c**io**m7]

I am confused. Does this mean a GFEMA can offer bbbj, cbj and fs? Wouldn't that make her an escort and not a massage attendant. Maybe I am misunderstanding something in the post and, if I am, I apologize if I have offended any GFEMAs.

 

 

 

 

 

Being an MA myself, I am more then happy to explain the difference. Of course knowing the market quite well, I know that the rates are pretty similar in the Ottawa area of course depending who you go for. Let's as hobbyists and service providers keep in mind that one is not better than the other or of more value. It really all depends on the type of service you joyfully seek. For a more sensual, relaxing experience one would opt for MA. If mileage is your goal and you joyfully seek msog, pse, and hardcore activities you would opt for an sp. From what I have read and enjoying adding to my lists of services as well gfe is a service that both sp's and ma's can share. An emphasis on "can" being that it's not black and white and many individuals whether they are sp's or ma's either offer this service or don't. And gfe is a bit of a grey area as it can range from kissing, hugging, cuddling, bbbj, cbj, and fs. Your best bet it is to read the profiles to whom you seek, recommendations, websites, and as well as open the lines of communication and ask for a more detailed list of services to be the most successful. Also opening the lines of communication can really establish a bit of chemistry before your first session and you will really see the girl in question's personality shine through. Through my personal experience in this industry (although its not much as I joined in June) although looks are very important and ideal, personality really makes a difference ;)... This is of course keeping in mind that mutual respect is earned and both parties agree on discretion.

[WriteOn 3250]

I am confused. Does this mean a GFEMA can offer bbbj, cbj and fs? Wouldn't that make her an escort and not a massage attendant.

 

 

Acronyms and definitions are really meaningless. A lady can offer whatever she wants, there is no Law that defines GFE, MA, Escort etc.

[Guest c**io**m7]

Acronyms and definitions are really meaningless. A lady can offer whatever she wants, there is no Law that defines GFE, MA, Escort etc.

 

Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I misunderstood the difference between MA and SP/escort. I has assumed SP/escort was sexual services as mentioned and MA was massage without the services mentioned...I guess I was wrong and maybe a little naive but, as pointed out earlier, I don't have a great deal of MA varietal experience.