What do you think of the Ful-Body-scans?

[TracieGold 282]

I am sure some people is against them and do not want to be seen naked.

BUT....is it better to be blown away in millions of pieces??????

let us know what you think.....

I could not care less if they photograph my wrinkles...as long as I know my plane is going to arrive to it's destination.....

Better safer than sorry, right guys?

[Mister C 1725]

I know the women watching the monitors will be smiling when I go though. Or should I say laughing.:oops:

[Leber 1328]

Here's my rule of thumb. Safety is always top priority.

 

Personally, you know what would be cool. It should be shown on the 3D TV, considering how much we're paying for the scanner.

[etasman2000 15994]

Here's my rule of thumb. Safety is always top priority.

 

The question is does it actually work ?!?

 

It is always worth following Schneier.

 

http://www.schneier.com/blog/

 

and to remember

 

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[dominoeffect 1077]

I don't like this one bit. This is such a prejudice move. I cannot believe that canadians need to do this. What is this world coming to? I don't even fly often and I feel VIOLATED!

 

DoM

[Guest M***ell***A]

Here's my take on this (and this is just my opinion here):

Whereas I do not like the idea of going through a body scanner I cannot help but think that flying is not a right, is it? It is a service that I can either choose to use or not use. I realize that some (probably many here) "need" to fly often for business and whatever but again that is also a choice. We choose our careers, we decide to accept or decline a position in whatever business knowing whether or not travel is part of it.

Personally I Really don't like the idea of going through a bodyscanner because, yes, I would feel violated however I don't feel like it's a violation of my civil or human or whatever rights because flying, just like driving or scuba diving or hobbying, is not a right. It is a privilege and a choice.

 

I know I'll probably get so much heat for these comments lol but like I said, it's just my personal opinion...

And for the record, I'm all about the train and I hate to fly! lol

[Mutau 2516]

It is as Michelle states: Life is about choices. If we decide to travel, then we need to choose the method we wish toi use with all of the complications that that particular mode may entail.

 

If we take our car or a rented vehicle, then there is the length of time on the road and the consequent fatique. If we opt for a bus company, then there is having to plan and co-ordinate schedules (on the plus side there is no screening, nor are there any security checks). Should we prefer travel,on the rails, then there are the same challenges and benefits as with the bus except one can get up and walk around with much more ease and if in the proper class on the train catch up on e-mails and work the Internet. The idea of the body scan at this point in time affects only those deciding to travel by plane.

 

Unfortunately, in this day and age of extended business travel, and at times on a frequnet basis, there is no escaping the necessity to use air transportation. I really do not see a business allowing employees to take the train from say Toronto to Vancouver simply because they do not wish to pass thropugh a full-body scanner. As well, the addition of full-body scanning technology is one more inconvenience and extended lne-up at an already hassled airport experience. How much time will we waste standing around waiting to go through the small number of available machines? What happens when they break down (never during a quiet period, but usaully during the busy period of the day) and need to be repaired?

 

Oh the joys of travelling!

[coffeeTable 110]

Flying is indeed a service, but the service providers aren't the ones who are mandating the security measures. This is just another attack on our civil liberties under the ever growing guise of Homeland Defense. Who will have the power to confront the homeland defenders, if they should pervert these powers for less than admirable motives.

 

never forget who set fire to the ReichStag

[Jazzitup 5652]

I caught an interview with Canada's privacey commisioner, and she described how this is implemented, which is really smart.

 

When you are scanned, the person viewing the scan is in a remote location, and can not know what your face looks like. Because it is anonymous, I have no problem with it. Like others have said, it is a trivial thing to do, if it helps ensure my safety.

 

Now if the person viewing the scan detects something of interest, there is a stick figure at the scanner location that highlights the area on the body that can be investigated further.

 

I am all for the scan, and I don't mind it being used on me.

 

Michelle,

Like you I am a big fan of train travel.

[survived70s 582]

Your feelings about this, or anything else for that matter, are yours and no one has the right to criticize...

It is a good thing that I am too old to work as a scanner. My toungue would liely drool involuntarily if the full body scan was that revealing. Should they segregate the scanning lines ?

 

I recall having been pulled aside at an Airportin West Palm to have my shoes inspected on a flight to the Carribean. I had the pleasure of being in close proximity to an extremely hot lady that was, with lots of smiles, revealing her nipple rings, belly button rings, and her pussy rings to a 70 something year old woman inspector. It was exremely hot, she seemed to be getting off on it. I wanted to go over and tell the dear lady how much I appreciated it, but my wife and kids pulled me back to reality and I never had the chance... Maybe it was a good thing !

[VedaSloan 119179]

I read a great piece recently about airport security and how North American airlines are RIDICULOUS in their security measures (You want me to take off my thigh high stilettos because I might have a bomb in the heel? What? Me? Are you for real? Do I look like I have plans to blow everyone up? These things cost me a grand! They're Jimmy Choo!). The article pointed out that Ben Gurion International in Israel is far more likely to receive bombs and attacks and their security takes much less time than North American counterparts. It's all based on the questions their employees ask and how the traveler reacts.

 

As someone who's traveled in the middle east, I can attest that their airport security is much faster than anything in the west. And I didn't have to take off my boots. ;)

[Guest S***e]

I've been taken aside for secondary inspections on two occasions recently for pat downs. It's no big deal IMOP. As far as the scanning machines go, if it moves us through security quicker (I doubt if it will) then put me through it. The thing that irriates me is that I go through it willingly without protest. I do not fit what one would call the terrorist profile. We the regular population are being searched, poked and prodded while real terrorists are bringing all kinds of materials onboard and these people would be screaming racism/racial profiling etc. if they were searched thoroughly. The wrong people are being seached and targetted, e.g. the regular law-abiding travelling public, e.g. Erin, me, you. Let's see some good old fashioned common-sense here!!!!

[etasman2000 15994]

And then we get this story yesterday

 

Irish police have released a man held over an explosives find, after Slovak authorities admitted planting them in his luggage as part of a security test.

Full text here

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8441891.stm

[NotchJohnson 214069]

Why is all of this slowing everybody down? It use to be, get at the airport 2 hrs ahead of time for international flight and I would be sitting down and wait for 1-1.5 hrs for boarding and now not from experience but from what I hear you need to show up 4-5 hrs ahead of time. Take a flight that leaves at 7 am and a guy like me that lives 1.5 hr away from any airport, I need to wake up at midnight to get to the airport. This is what frustrate me the most, I don't care if I stand there naked in front of any good looking female inspector just for fun.

[kih 458]

From the looks of it the Body scanners will be available and in use at most Major Canadian airports in the near future. However, the individual does have a choice and in lieu can opt for a "pat down" physical search rather than the body scan.

[Guest S***e]

I want to be patted down by EmmaA then taken away for a more thorough examination privately!

 

 

From the looks of it the Body scanners will be available and in use at most Major Canadian airports in the near future. However, the individual does have a choice and in lieu can opt for a "pat down" physical search rather than the body scan.

[Hornee69 4851]

I just hope I don't have a hard on when I walk through. That wood be embarrassing.

[Guest M***ell***A]

I almost always get the "random" patdown anyway when I fly, even though I take my boots and belt off, have my lip gloss and lighter in the little baggy ontop of everything, digicam out etc. and don't set anything off. It's kind of annoying but it doesn't really bother me that much, it's not like I have anything to hide and it's only like an extra minute going through so no big deal. It's more annoying to me to have to take my boots off (why do I always wear the lace-up knee-highs?) than it is to get a pat down...

[pjrd 324]

doesn`t bother me a bit. I suppose those people watching the scanners would get pretty used to it and wouldn`t care what you look like. Hope it pays well.( boreing after the first 2000 people go thru)

It`s better to check everyone than to have another disaster.

[kih 458]

I almost always get the "random" patdown anyway when I fly, even though I take my boots and belt off, have my lip gloss and lighter in the little baggy ontop of everything, digicam out etc. and don't set anything off. It's kind of annoying but it doesn't really bother me that much, it's not like I have anything to hide and it's only like an extra minute going through so no big deal. It's more annoying to me to have to take my boots off (why do I always wear the lace-up knee-highs?) than it is to get a pat down...

 

 

No surprise Michelle as you're so hot!

[Guest gagagaga]

I recently flew and went through the body scanner. It's no big deal...it is just a stick figure on the screen. It is like a previous post said the actual scan is viewed by someone in an office far away and they don't seer your face.

 

now the security on the other hand was absolutely brutakl and totally overdone. i am very opposed to that

[E.D. man 691]

I'm just sorry for all the increased pyshchiatry (sic) needs for the security staff, for all the ugly naked people they have to look at. And the scan can't see the cocaine in your rectal cavity, going to still need the plastic gloves, oh yum!!!!:-P:-P

[Andee 220524]

That just means they'll have to come up with more ingenious ways of smuggling explosives on board aircraft, like specially fabricated clothing that is timed to combust at certain time.

 

Some of those spy movies are not so far fetched...remember Get Smart and his shoe phone?

 

Seriously folks, as inconvenient as it seems, I guess the question is, isn't it better to be safe than sorry. Not a guarantee by any means, but perhaps will give some reassurance. When you're up in the air, there's only one way to go, and that's down, if you're not blown to smithereens before you get there.

 

I'll take my chances with the body scan. That will be the only time I look like like a "stick".

[Guest S*rca****sid]

I don't know what all the paranoia is about, first of all the machine doesn't show you naked and second of all, there area more things to worry about than just some terrorist.

 

I think people have fallen into a false sense of what a terrorist is, they are more than just someone who is middle eastern and wearing a bed sheet on his head.

Muslim extremist come in all shapes and sizes, some of them come from southern Russia and the Balkan region where people are as white as they come.

 

There are other groups from around the world which pose a risk to travelers, such as

the IRA, ETA, FARC, and don't forget about foreign governments. It was the Libyans intelligence agency that planed the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in Lockerbie. Also, it was just some regular crazy guy that took hostage the plane in Jamaica earlier last year. It's time to stop falling in love with the media's terrorist of the week.

 

I believe it's time for people to think about what if it was them that were on that flight to Detroit? What if you were on one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade center? Let's all stop worrying about our "rights" and feel comfort in knowing that we and our loved ones will have a safe trip.

 

Most plane crashes occure because of pilot error or mechanical malfunction, that's what scares me the most. When I get on a plane, I'm always thinking.... Is the pilot drunk? High? Is he looking at porn on his laptop? Did the mechanic have a good day today?

[NotchJohnson 214069]

Dump the male flight attendants. No one wanted them in the first place.

 

Replace all the female flight attendants with good-looking strippers! What the hell, they don't even serve food anymore, so what's the loss?

 

The strippers would at least triple the alcohol sales and get a 'party atmosphere' going in the cabin. And, of course, every businessman in this country would start flying again, hoping to see naked women..

 

Because of the tips, female flight attendants wouldn't need a salary, thus saving even more money. I suspect tips would be so good that we could charge the women for working the plane and have them kick back 20% of the tips, including lap dances and 'special services.'

 

Muslims would be afraid to get on the planes for fear of seeing naked women. Hijackings would come to a screeching halt, and the airline industry would see record revenues.

 

This is definitely a win-win situation if we handle it right -- a golden opportunity to turn a liability into an asset.

 

Why didn't Obama think of this? Why do I still have to do everything myself?