Antoine 502 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Hey, I'm a pretty easy going french guy and stuff like grammar and bad spelling doesn't usually bother me but when I see bad spelling over and over ad neuseum, it makes me cringe. So what's the deal with the term "hobbiest"? I did a google search on the word and google was pretty intent on suggesting that the word I am searching for is "hobbyist". Is there a special secret connotation for this word? Is it like the word "compatable"? Everyone on the internet spells it that way so everyone else think it's the right spelling. Another one the makes me cringe is when I hear Americans say the word Iraq as "eye-raq". Hey if you're going to invade a country, you should learn how its name is pronounced! Does anyone else hear or see language faux-pas that make you cringe? (btw... any spelling mistakes in this post was done on purpose :cooter:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ou**or**n Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Well, when talking about a person that participates in something we use the suffix 'ist' (e.g. specialist). So hobbyist is pretty natural. We use 'est' as a suffix to mean 'the most' so hobbiest just wouldn't make sense. People are just used to replacing a 'y' with an 'i' (such to pluralize the word 'hobby' to 'hobbies' that these strange misspellings occur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royalfun 55448 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 This topic was discussed in another thread here on CERB. The issue about the spelling and the meaning of being a "hobbiest" or a "hobbyist" was discussed. Even the meaning of this "hobby". http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=23345 IMHO, whatever we call it, what we do here is fun with nice and beautiful people. :motion: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mutau 2516 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 If one looks at a dictionary (what a concept), and I checked the Canadian Oxford and the Cage Canadian, the correct spelling is "hobbyist". Unfortunately, I do not have an American dictionary and could not verify if our neighbours to the south have a different "official" spelling of the word. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ou**or**n Report post Posted May 13, 2010 The word that has to make me cringe the most is the phantom word - 'irregardless'. Ahh, it pains me even to write it! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=irregardless Don't even get me started on 'alot'... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 The word that has to make me cringe the most is the phantom word - 'irregardless'. Ahh, it pains me even to write it! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=irregardless Don't even get me started on 'alot'... Hey, we're both in agreement. I also don't like it when people write ALL IN CAPITALS or do not capitalize proper nouns. It's not i am...It's I am... Oh, and it's not "your welcome". It's you're welcome. Geez... Yeah, many people don't know that "irregardless" is NOT a word. Got that drilled into me when I transcribed for Parliament (we were expected to correct bad grammar spoken by MPs etc. "regardless" of the words they spoke). (Yes Hansard is edited heavily). I could go on and on... youse guys I seen him etc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Well here in the Shire, it is spelled Hobbits..... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted May 13, 2010 More fun on the "Hobbiest" front -- caveman's thread from last year: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=14141 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazzitup 5652 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Well the language faux-pas that irks me is when momentarily is used instead of moment. "I will be with you momentarily" means for a moment, and what usually is meant is "I will be with you in a moment". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyra.Graves 23779 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Additional Comments: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 People using definitely and spelling it definately. Most commonly the use of your instead of you're bothers me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grass_Hopper 18263 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 I'm Francophone too... When I post and I'm not to sure how to spell a word, I use a question mark beside it... The dog(?) are eating, kind of... This way, cerbites understand that I'm French and still have some issues with the spelling. Also, I review my texts to make sure the text makes sense(?) and that errors may occur... I still learning, after all!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Ohhhh you French guys with your berets and cheese and over sized phallic shaped loaves of bread........ bless your wee hearts. Everybody knows that there is no language as dead sexy as Modern Scots. We can say things like " ohhh baby" and "you are a bonny fine lass with a bonny fine bum" and I swear the shivers will make ya tingle. We don't rely on pencil thin moustaches and refinement. We are a dead sexy race that can butcher pretty near any language with our rolling brogue. THAT's what makes us sexy... and our willingness to show our bandy legs in kilts. Evidence of our willingness to butcher the English language can be found here... http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowf That's right... it's an explanation of Golf written in modern Scots. Now let's hear you complain about things like "hobbyist" vs "hobbiest." heheheheeheh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BownChickaBown 4829 Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Ain't is a word irregardless of those whom are wrongeous alot. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 I'm Francophone too... When I post and I'm not to sure how to spell a word, I use a question mark beside it... You can speak 2 languages! That's completely acceptable to have incorrect grammar or spelling when it's not your first language. We are irritated by people who butcher their first language. I was in a car with another escort who was from Montreal many years ago so when she said "cha-oes'' instead of ''K-oss" when using the word chaos I of course asked her if English was her 2nd language.. unfortunately it wasn't... Ain't is a word irregardless of those whom are wrongeous alot. ;-) AWESOME!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antoine 502 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 I heard someone at work say: "youse guys". To make matters worse, she was a professional writer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 oh Antoine.. that one bugs me too! or people who say ''I seen" when they should be saying "I saw" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royalfun 55448 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 Reading this post, it comforts me in a way. Writing in French is always a challenge for everyone, even for Frendh people: the grammar, vocabulary, all the exceptions, some words have a "gender", the rule for past tense, etc. So when I hear that some errors made in English may bother the readers, I see that the quality of language is an issue for everyone. For one, I try my best when I write, review my posts, but I still know that I make some errors of vocabulary, orthograph or style, and hope that readers will be understanding. It's the same for the accent. But everybody has one: East coast, West Coast; even there are some differences of tone and accent, for example, between the Newfoundland accent and the one of Nova Scotia ! By all means, wrting is a magnificent tool of communication, the more precise we write the more we enhance the communication. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omehgosh 736 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 I think that unless you're a journalist, reporter, politician, copy writer or some other professional working, in or with media, grammatical errors should be forgiven (to an extent). It's easy to pick up bad habits and forget what we've learned. I'm confident that I speak and write pretty clearly, BUT I'm also very confident that someone more skilled with the English language would easily find many spelling, punctuation and other basic problems with my grammar. I tend not to be very forgiving of some common errors that, for whatever reason, really grind on me ("yous", "liberry", "orientate"..), but I think that's just a personal thing, and to be honest, I'm not very proud of it. Patience and humility are two traits I really admire in others. I've learned that you can't judge someone's intelligence, or even their education, on how they write or speak. I don't know how good Tesla's English was, but I'm absolutely certain he was a lot smarter than me. I don't think people should criticize someone else's spelling or writing in forums... I think it's petty and takes away from the sharing of our thoughts and ideas with each other. I think focusing on what someone's said is more the point of forum than how someone says it. If you don't understand what someone meant, simply ask them to clarify. That being said - I think marketers, journalists, radio hosts, and a whole list of others need to be more responsible with their language. Shouldn't they? Isn't language a required skill for professionals in the media? "There is no accidents to report." - really? No seriously, really??? "We've got bagels." - really? You're kidding me right? Do you know how many people were exposed to this? Come on. Whose the hobbiest of the hobbyists? Not a really biggie for me. "There is no accidents to report." - Again, really?!?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 My mom still bugs me when I say anyways instead of anyway. I have noticed that about 1/2 of people say anyway and 1/2 say anyways..but I wouldn't have even noticed had she not been pointing it out to me. You're right about habits. She only seemed to notice me saying it as a full grown adult so it was already a habit. I wonder if anyone else notices or even cares.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BownChickaBown 4829 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 With the point being to communicate a message, I don't get hung up on the anal retentive side of grammar knowing the message was received. ...as hey, the only way some people understand said message would be to use the so-called 'incorrect' grammar, as that is the context to only which they may understand it. That is, target the language to the audience - not everyone gets to talk with the Queen every day ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BownChickaBown 4829 Report post Posted May 16, 2010 PS: As I think about it, wouldn't 'hobbiest' be 'of the most hobby', an adjective, vs: hobbyist - the noun? -> Leaving the answer to your question of 'Hobbiest or Hobbyist?' to be: Whatever word fits the case to which it was designed for and you are looking to convey in it's usage thereof? ... being either descriptive of something or a person/place or thing. Thus, more of a rhetorical question to yourself? Ex: He is the hobbiest hobbyist I know! In the end thou, as we all know, perception is relatively subjective. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soleil Sublime 38108 Report post Posted May 16, 2010 From my experinces, its a select few who knows how to properly write. I personally seen alot of mistakes made in messages or posts. Irregardless, your going too find most people just dont care enough to check there spelling or grammer. :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royalfun 55448 Report post Posted May 16, 2010 From my experinces, its a select few who knows how to properly write. I personally seen alot of mistakes made in messages or posts. Irregardless, your going too find most people just dont care enough to check there spelling or grammer. :lol: :lol: well sed ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antoine 502 Report post Posted May 17, 2010 Good one Soleil. I'll bet that took some effort! :cooter: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
