Lack of Respect And Manners In General

[777flyer 1612]

After reading a few posts about common decency and how people don't show the smallest amount of appreciation for each other and the complete lack of respect, it made me stop and think.......

 

Are we as a society forgetting our manners, or just simply being unreasonable. ?

 

A recent event really caused me to shake my head in bewilderment, and reflect on how day to day as we go about our jobs, we often don't get credit or the least amount of respect for what we do for others.....

 

Recently, flying back to Toronto, we were forced to divert in mid flight because of a NASTY line of thunderstorms across the US Midwest. I can assure you, this is no easy task in mid flight, but after a bit of adjustment, we diverted and although almost an hour late, landed safely in Toronto......

 

As we thanked passengers while they departed, a blustery 'texan' proceeded to berate me, rather loudly, for how late we were and how he may miss his connecting flight and how he may NEVER fly with us again.....

 

It took all of my good manners to smile and thank him for flying with us......perhaps i should have just flown into the storm and shook the bad manners out this pompous ass......but of course that is not an option...

 

which leads me to this.....

 

Regardless of what we do, should we not at least expect the least amount of courtesy and understanding from each other ?

 

Should we not give each other the benefit of the doubt ?

 

Because we pay someone for a service, regardless of what that service is, does that grant us the right to be complete and utter fools and treat the person giving us the service grief because the service wasn't exactly what we had expected ?

 

I would hope that we all stop and realize that for the most part, people WILL try their best to deliver as advertised.....sometimes, in spite of all good intentions, we fall short....even though of our best efforts....

 

There....I feel MUCH better.......forgive my rant...but I thought it appropriate in light of some recent posts !

 

SNK

[Andee 220524]

There is so much I want to say...but bottom line in your case is...I would rather be delayed and arrive safely than the pilot and crew risk flying for the simple sake of trying to meet connections...because that may be one connection they'd never make.

 

A simple, please and thank you seem to be foreign words these days - at least that's why I seem to find.

 

I don't know if it's the techno age where people are strapped to cell phones, keyboards, whatever and are losing the personal communication and interaction, but I find more and more rudeness everywhere.

 

Whatever happened to altruism and manners?

 

Why does it have to take some high profile celebrity like Oprah Winfrey or Ellen to remind people to be kind to each other.

[Isabella Gia (Banned) 53881]

Absolutely agree, I actually just posted in another thread how important respect is starting with self-respect. I think it says a lot from a person.

As Angela pointed even a thank you is hard to get. I guess the thing is appreciation for others and what they do for us is almost gone which is sad, since sometimes it takes an unfortunate event for us to realize how important this is this. A big THANK YOU to 777flyer for reminding us :)

[Reddog01 30280]

I fly a lot and I appreciate just getting to my destination safely. Once flying to Germany from Toronto we lost almost all power to one engine and had to emergency land in Montreal around midnight. As you can imagine there was little support to handle the unexpected arrivals, hotel accommodations and rebooking for the next flight in the morning. One passenger voiced his opinion; I will never fly AC again accusing the flight crew of incompetence, etc. At the risk of retribution, I asked him to keep his opinions to himself, ?Would you rather be swimming in the Atlantic?" I asked him. He piped down. All this to say, today people are tending to look inward - its all about me. We need to change this, is should be all about us - let's enjoy experiences together and appreciate what each of us brings to the table.

[Ashley Ann 75247]

There is an extreme lack of manners, common courtesy, & consideration of others all over the place .....

 

From the ignorant non mannered individuals on the o.c buses who do not offer their seat to elders, pregnant ladies or people with infants...then you have those who insist that their personal cell conversation is sooooooo dam important, that they MUST speak very loudly and in full detail for the WHOLE bus to hear...< and I was like ...and he was like....and then OMG we were like???!!! > I had to listen to that for 17 minutes the other day...

 

Then you have those who cannot be bothered to hold open the door, yet have not problem when someone holds it open for them !!??

 

Then there is the line up situation at a store, especially where there is NO express lanes, if you find yourself in line with a bunch of items, and see someone behind you with like 2, 3 maybe even 4 or 5, would it kill ya to let that person go ahead of you, I ALWAYS offer this when I find someone behind me with just a few items...why not?? PARENTS really need to take the time to show their kids manners....you see plenty of kids walking around today in designer outfits, expensive gadgets, but NO MANNERS or "Social Skills"'!!!!!

 

Funny thing, 'I was chit chatting about manners today with a friend, I think they should start to teach manners 101 in elementary school due to the fact that many people with kids who 'DO NOT teach their kids any manners...do not get me started on discipline...thats for another thread all together......

[SmartnSexy 2089]

I'm what you could call a prime product of the tech generation, I grew up playing video games and using computers. I had a natural aptitude for it and so went into Computer Sciences. So it's fair to say that I'd qualify as one of the people that AngelofOttawa is speaking of.

 

I'd like to point out that, at least in my opinion, it has nothing to do with how many gadgets you had when growing up. It has to something to do with how you were, in fact, brought up. I know it's easy to blame the parents, but I can tell you, regardless of what gizmo I was using at the time, my parents always made sure I put it away for dinner, always said my pleases and thank yous and so on... At the time I thought it was useless but I am now very thankful that they made that effort. I am a normal (well... is anyone really normal?:razz:) person who will treat others with kindness, respect and politeness.

 

Maybe it has something to do with empathy. A big part of teaching respect to others is just getting them to understand what the effects of their actions are. If everyone sat down and thought their actions through I think there would be a lot less conflict. In your case 777flyer the 'blustery' Texan should have thought, what were the other options? Fly through the storm and risk everyone's lives just to be on time (and even then not really since you'd be delayed regardless if you're going through a storm)? My only caveat is, was he aware of the circumstances for the delay?

 

I doubt you need someone to say this 777flyer, but you obviously did the right thing, your first responsibility is unquestionably to the safety of your passengers. Anything else is secondary, by far, and I'd like to thank you for taking the right course of action and potentially saving the man who berated you later on for doing just that.

 

The world still has a fair amount of good people in it, they just rarely speak up. Which is unfortunate.

[Old Dog 179138]

I love this thread.

 

It all starts at home. My kids were taught the same things that I was, that being, "Do unto others as you would have others do unto to you." I know it sounds all "Bible-ey" (I just made that up, but feel free to use it!) but sometimes the old sayings ring true through the ages.

 

Common courtesy is something that all of us can achieve... it is easy and effective.

 

One thing that has yet to be mentioned??? The "victim" syndrome.

 

If I hold a door open for you, I am victimizing you. I am a male chauvinist pig degrading you by assuming that you can't do it for yourself.

 

If I ask you to turn down your music at 3am, I am victimizing you. I am infringing on your freedom of expression.

 

If I guide you safely around a storm but we arrive an hour late, I am victimizing you. I made you miss your connecting flight.

 

If I don't warn you that your hot chocolate is hot, I am victimizing you. You may burn your thighs when you use them as a cupholder.

 

If I save you money by combining your cell phone bills, I am victimizing you. Your hubby will find out you are having an affair by questioning some of the calls you have made.

 

If I say that murdering your ex wife and daughters is unlawful, I am victimizing you. I am a racist in not recognizing your traditions.

 

Most of this victimization has been set in stone by legal precedent. Judges (not the government) have made stupid decisions that give a-holes the right to be a-holes with no regard for others.

 

Just a little rant... sorry!!! (Please don't sue me!)

[VedaSloan 119179]

Flying back from Alabama, I got extra cookies from the flight attendant because I had said "please" and "thank you."

 

The whole flying example made me think of this Louis CK clip:

 

http://www.maniacworld.com/everything-is-amazing-nobody-is-happy.html

[Ava Foxx 1747]

I try to be as polite and courteous as possible in any given situation. I always smile and say please and thank you. To be honest with you, it seems to shock people! They are so accustomed to people being rude that when someone is actually polite, they are taken aback. Also, I always hold the door open for people and I'd say roughly only 10% actually say thank you...no joke :-(. Sometimes I get ticked and I yell out "YOU'RE WELCOME!" after them ;-).

[Parker 19761]

Are we as a society forgetting our manners, or just simply being unreasonable. ?

 

 

I honestly don't think we are.

 

I think we're pushed to be more polite based on some people's ideals, morality, thoughts on how others should act.. because when you take a look at the history of people.. well, we're far more polite now that we ever have been.

 

I think people forget that manners and the lot are unnatural... which is probably why they're so often forgotten by young children and horny men looking for escorts..

 

I think common courtesy is great, but manners are utterly overrated.

[Guest s******ecan****]

I think people forget that manners and the lot are unnatural... which is probably why they're so often forgotten by young children and horny men looking for escorts..

 

 

So true! Manners and coutesy are a deliberate suppression of our self-centered nature. Its hard not to complain when we don't get our way, or ask politely when something we desire is within reach. Its not surprising that we tend to abandon this when under pressure.

 

2 friends of mine recently went on a trip together which ended rather badly when one became quite moody and impatient, complaining about everything, and ultimately cutting the trip short. It left my first friend at quite a loss as to what the hell happened. We learned yesterday our other friend was under investigation at work in a HR issue. He was too embarrassed to talk about it and his level of stress certainly contributed to his prick-like behaviour.

 

Yes there is a lot of poor behaviour out there, but there is also always a another side of the story, or more going on than we may know about. Thats not an excuse for bad behaviour, but it often is an explanation. I'm sure all of us have had our moments we would rather forget about. I know I have.

[omehgosh 736]

Personally, being one of those "nice guys", that gets stepped on frequently, I've been forced to develop a theory to help keem from going "postal" on somebody's @ss (which still happens ocassionally, but not nearly as much as I'm tempted some times! lol).

 

I'm the guy that helps every single one of his friends move, but ends up moving himself.

 

I'm the guy that helps every single one of his friends build their shed, drywall their basement, put up their fence... but ends up building his porch himself.

 

I'm the guy that holds the door open while three or four people waltz through without so much as a smile or a "thank you".

 

You know that guy. You know that girl. I have a feeling that a large percentage of the CERB community is made up of these most unfortunate folks.

 

We're the people that give a sh!t - we don't live in a mirror-filled box. We do remember that we're surrounded by others trying to get through life just the same as us. We're the people that believe that we're all in this together and somehow feel that we have a responsibility to help one another.

 

I'm not sure I'd agree that things are worse nowadays... I think maybe (at least here in North America) people are more likely to be rude because the fear of being punched really hard in the teeth is no longer there - LOL...

 

Seriously, thank goodness for that right? I mean without the laws to protect us we might actually have to think twice about something we say or do to someone else... not like those totally barbaric periods in history when you could end up dead or very seriously hurt for not showing any respect to someone - humility sucks, no one should ever have to experience it. (lol - I'm not even sure which side my sarcasm is leaning!)

 

Really, though, I think that people are naturally self-centered - you know? The whole self-preservation thing? I think though, that in this day and age people are allowed (maybe even encouraged) to let that instinct loose more than in other points in history. I think certain aspects of our society promote the feeling that we "deserve" something, that we have special "rights", that we are unique and special... that we're not "average" and just like everybody else. However, I think our self-centered nature has always been there - today, yesterday, 100 years ago, and 2000 years ago - without it we wouldn't have got this far really.

 

If you don't believe me, I really pity you in the case of an oil, food, or water shortage - you're in for a very rude awakening.

 

I think we'd all be better off if we kept that basic instinct in check, but unfortunately, I don't think most people do (or ever will). I think it's up to us few to hold open the doors (with or without the smile or "thank you") and fly around the thunderstorms.

 

I'll keep helping my friends when they need it and hoping that they'll do the same for me... Every once and a while I'll lose my patience with someone, and kick their butt... maybe that'll make a difference in their attitude... maybe it won't...

 

No matter what though, I choose to believe that I'm making the world at least a little better through my actions.

 

Reddog01 - " ?Would you rather be swimming in the Atlantic?" - nicely handled!

 

777flyer, Reddog01 please continue to keep your passengers safe and sound, it's very much appreciated (especially by me if I happen to be on your plane!!!) - Good work guys! You rock.

[mrgreen760 37785]

I was raised proper and have impeccable manners its second nature to me and anyone who has come in contact with me would concur. Rather than getting frustrated by lack of the same in others I continue to say please and thank you, open doors for anyone and smile at everyone I see.

 

Life is short and each morning I decide what kind of day I'm going to have and if I let someone derail it.......it's my fault not theirs.

 

Peace

MG

[Parker 19761]

Personally, being one of those "nice guys", that gets stepped on frequently, I've been forced to develop a theory to help keem from going "postal" on somebody's @ss (which still happens ocassionally, but not nearly as much as I'm tempted some times! lol).

 

I'll keep helping my friends when they need it and hoping that they'll do the same for me... Every once and a while I'll lose my patience with someone, and kick their butt... maybe that'll make a difference in their attitude... maybe it won't...

 

 

This is kind of what I'm talking about...

Manners have been taken way out of context nowadays. It's no more simple thoughtfulness for others, it's become this "Do this or I'm going to complain about how you inconvenienced me.. "

 

People with "manners" tend to put themselves up a little higher than people they feel don't have any.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.. But if I do something you don't agree with/hurts your feeling/you don't understand you have the right to "kick my but" in hopes of adjusting my attitude? And where do the manners lie in that?

 

Do you think anyone would be as nice to the guy yelling about the plane had they not been forced to because they were working? Obviously not as another person mentioned making a snide comment towards a passenger who felt the need to complain... He didn't just grin and take it like the guy working had to..

 

So, "politeness" should be forced on all because it is expect from some? Sounds overly unreasonable.

 

It's not your place to tell me how to act and be anymore than it is mine to tell you.. and I think forcing someone to behave as feel they should is really, really rude.

 

I think we should really toss the idea of manners and just try some general thoughtfulness and courtesy for other people... at least then we're not forcing personal ideals on others.

 

 

Wait... why am I even discussing this on a escort recommendation board? It's the one place people should use some sort of "manners" and generally don't.

 

Manners may get you far as or with an escort, but it's a waste of worry the rest of the time. Just be yourself. If you're a nice person, bask in the wealth and friendship that brings you (ha! because the world is that simple).. if you're a bit of an ass like the rest of us, try not to be around people who will use you as a future complaint.

 

Have fun people. xx

[spud271 47779]

I am with mrgreen760 100% on this! I would rather be polite, say please and thank you, rather than being disrespectful and showing lack of manners. As many of you know I was raised in England, the school I attended taught us about respecting others and being honourable citizens. I hope my actions have influenced others around me to follow this attitude. I have noticed my employees smile much more now and always hold the door for others no matter how busy they are.

[A***** A***** 510]

I hear where you are coming from 777. *kisses*

 

Remember that quote from Forest Gump "Stupid is, as Stupid Does?" Well that is for your "rude texan"

 

You did your job, and everyone arrived safely. You can't please everyone, all the time, no matter how hard you try. I would rather have a professional and safe flight crew, and arrive in one piece.

 

Kudos to you for handling it with style and class. I simply couldn't imagine acting like that on a plane of all places. I place my life, literally into the crew's and pilots hands.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

hmmm. Interesting ideas. I agree that manners are over-rated. Genuine gratitude is more important than being polite. That was what was missing from the Texan.

 

That is what is missing from our society in general and more specifically with parenting. Gratitude for the people and even things in our lives that bring us joy.

 

How do they bring us joy? By the way WE look at them. Not by what they do for us.

 

Gratitude is a choice. You can choose every day when you wake up to be grateful for what you have or miserable.. and then it shows.

 

Water reacts to this. Just view Emoto's work on it to see what I mean. We are made of mostly water and this magical mystery of quantam mechanics is evident in every aspect of our lives and being. http://hado.net

 

Being grateful has the most powerful influence in our lives.

[Kate von Katz 49953]

We live in a world that is obsessed with instant gratification and a sense of entitlement. This was originally marketed by corporations as a way to draw new business. We live in a highly narcissistic society. Everywhere you look there are proclaimations of individuals sense of entitlement. We buy shirts that say "spoiled" or "princess" for our children and for ourselves. We demand more of the person who makes our latte than we do of our government - or at least more people will be vocal about their displeasure at the poor barista than they will about the government.

 

It has permeated every level of society, every demographic. It has been something many scholars and scientists have been puzzling over. Where exactly did it start? And how bad is it going to get before it slows down?

 

We are all selfish to a degree. It's part of our evolutionary survial. But it seems that bad behavior is being tolerated more and more. "The customer is always right". No, they aren't. And these kinds of company policies are a band-aid for a hemmorrhage.

 

I also think technology has given us a free pass for rudeness. Though technology brought the world into communication, it also provided annonymity and furthered our thirst for instant gratification. Another piece to the puzzle.

 

It is a complicated issue with no easy or agreeable solution in sight. People will always feel entitled. Companies will always want business. The two are feeding each other and our children grow up learning these behaviors. The best we can do as individuals is try to be pleasant (at least out loud), patient, and remember that we're all flawed creatures. Some are better at some things than others and everyone has a skill/talent that you do not. The most important things to remember are patience and patience.

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[omehgosh 736]

@Naomi

 

I can't say for sure, but I don't think this thread was specifically about "manners".

 

The "thoughtfulness and courtesy" to which you referred, are more what I was responding about.

 

Saying "thank you", or at least smiling at me when I hold the door open for you shows that you noticed I went out of my way to be kind to you, and shows me that you appreciate it... it's a sign of humility on your part, and shows respect for me.

 

Now "manners" specifically, I agree with you on - I personally believe that curtsies and handkerchiefs are a complete waste of time. I also think it's silly to take offense to such things as belching.

 

I do however, care about people treating me, and others with respect. Being "polite" in the sense of being considerate of others, is not, and will never be a waste of time.

 

Hoping for respect from you is not holding myself above you, it's hoping you don't hold yourself above me. I believe we're equal no matter your or my education, profession, religion or race.

 

"But if I do something you don't agree with/hurts your feeling/you don't understand you have the right to "kick my but" in hopes of adjusting my attitude?"

 

Absolutely, you did interpret me correctly. I think the lot of us would be much better off if we all got used to standing up for ourselves and others.

 

In fact, it appears you understand my point, and even agree with it...

 

"Do you think anyone would be as nice to the guy yelling about the plane had they not been forced to because they were working? Obviously not as another person mentioned making a snide comment towards a passenger who felt the need to complain... He didn't just grin and take it like the guy working had to..."

 

I think it's sad that no other passengers with 777flyer recognized that he was in not in a position to defend himself and/or didn't have the courage to put that jerk in his place on his behalf... I hope at least that someone said "thank you" to him - not because they had to, but because they appreciated him landing them safely on the ground.

 

I don't agree that being thoughtful and courteous are ever a "waste of worry", I think they show respect. I don't really care whether you're an escort, a lawyer, a pilot, a welder or homeless - we all deserve to be respected.

[vw48 516]

Interesting Thread. I'm going to perhaps be a bit at odds with the responses to date though I agree with what everyone is saying.

 

The original message had to do with some passengers being unreasonable about arriving late do to weather. Thing is for anyone that flies very often, especially with connections are unlikely to be in a super good mood. Gouged at every corner of an airport, arriving hours early to find the majority of check in counters empty etc.. If some flight from parts unknown has 6 people aboard that are connecting to yours and they are delayed ... expect your trip to be effected and ultimately if things go south. Plus flying itself is very stressful for some even if all goes smooth.

 

While you wait to see if you are going to make your meeting or see your family, there is next to no information available and practically no one to ask (if you are looking for an answer)..... and before someone says it's all about safety how can they lose that many bags on a daily basis and still be safe??

 

I expect many people that do not "lose it" in an airport are not so much polite but in fear of a body cavity search and being turned away should they voice their displeasure with the service/situation.

 

I guess my point is that while I believe the general theme of people becoming less polite in general is true I am not sure the airport is the best example to illustrate this.Consider the folks in this example and simply imagine a few things that MAY have happened prior to the latest delay.

 

Arrived at an airport at 5AM, waited in line while 2 people check in 100 passengers, drop $60 on a couple of bad sandwiches and breakfast, take your seat between 2 300 pound passengers - Arrive at your connection to discover the flight is overbooked and they are offering $100 credits to folks willing to volunteer to give up their seat. Then 2 hours before the weather would be an issue at your destination .... they change your departure time to accommodate a 1/2 dozen passengers that are already delayed but scheduled to board your airplane. Then when you finally take off, legitimate weather forces redirection and delays. The 6 folks who they held the flight for all arrive without their luggage.

 

At every turn of this scenario I believe most would notice that what they are getting back from the airline is void of respect and or politeness. In fact usually it's just the opposite.

 

In terms of the general theme of this site it I think in sharp contrast some service providers here have made a good living due in no small part to an exceptional customer service attitude. The irony is that because of this they are better able to manage their own schedule, life and be selective about what clients they see.

 

Everyone can have a bad day however if these wonderful ladies were to adopt a mechanical, disinterested, clock watching, multiple add on menu pricing for every little thing.... While at the same time they delay or miss appointments with impunity ... I think that perhaps they will have a more difficult time making a go of it in this, or any other business. A rude comment from a client either in person or in the form of a review, while still perhaps unacceptable depending on what is stated .... is less of a surprise depending on how the paying client is treated.

[masterowls 249]

After reading a few posts about common decency and how people don't show the smallest amount of appreciation for each other and the complete lack of respect, it made me stop and think.......

 

Are we as a society forgetting our manners, or just simply being unreasonable. ?

 

A recent event really caused me to shake my head in bewilderment, and reflect on how day to day as we go about our jobs, we often don't get credit or the least amount of respect for what we do for others.....

 

Recently, flying back to Toronto, we were forced to divert in mid flight because of a NASTY line of thunderstorms across the US Midwest. I can assure you, this is no easy task in mid flight, but after a bit of adjustment, we diverted and although almost an hour late, landed safely in Toronto......

 

As we thanked passengers while they departed, a blustery 'texan' proceeded to berate me, rather loudly, for how late we were and how he may miss his connecting flight and how he may NEVER fly with us again.....

 

It took all of my good manners to smile and thank him for flying with us......perhaps i should have just flown into the storm and shook the bad manners out this pompous ass......but of course that is not an option...

 

which leads me to this.....

 

Regardless of what we do, should we not at least expect the least amount of courtesy and understanding from each other ?

 

Should we not give each other the benefit of the doubt ?

 

Because we pay someone for a service, regardless of what that service is, does that grant us the right to be complete and utter fools and treat the person giving us the service grief because the service wasn't exactly what we had expected ?

 

I would hope that we all stop and realize that for the most part, people WILL try their best to deliver as advertised.....sometimes, in spite of all good intentions, we fall short....even though of our best efforts....

 

There....I feel MUCH better.......forgive my rant...but I thought it appropriate in light of some recent posts !

 

SNK

I'm afraid I would have been a little more direct. I would have said something to the effect of, "I'm sorry you may miss your flight. Perhaps you would rather I risk your life and the lives of everybody else on the plane just to get you here on time?" Of course I would say it with a big smile on my face. Especially when he realizes how stupid he sounded. Of course nobody thinks that you're the one they're going to blame if you fly through the storm and somebody gets hurt or killed. That makes me really angry.

[Parker 19761]

@Naomi

 

I can't say for sure, but I don't think this thread was specifically about "manners".

 

The "thoughtfulness and courtesy" to which you referred, are more what I was responding about.

 

Saying "thank you", or at least smiling at me when I hold the door open for you shows that you noticed I went out of my way to be kind to you, and shows me that you appreciate it... it's a sign of humility on your part, and shows respect for me.

 

Now "manners" specifically, I agree with you on - I personally believe that curtsies and handkerchiefs are a complete waste of time. I also think it's silly to take offense to such things as belching.

 

I do however, care about people treating me, and others with respect. Being "polite" in the sense of being considerate of others, is not, and will never be a waste of time.

 

Hoping for respect from you is not holding myself above you, it's hoping you don't hold yourself above me. I believe we're equal no matter your or my education, profession, religion or race.

 

"But if I do something you don't agree with/hurts your feeling/you don't understand you have the right to "kick my but" in hopes of adjusting my attitude?"

 

Absolutely, you did interpret me correctly. I think the lot of us would be much better off if we all got used to standing up for ourselves and others.

 

In fact, it appears you understand my point, and even agree with it...

 

"Do you think anyone would be as nice to the guy yelling about the plane had they not been forced to because they were working? Obviously not as another person mentioned making a snide comment towards a passenger who felt the need to complain... He didn't just grin and take it like the guy working had to..."

 

I think it's sad that no other passengers with 777flyer recognized that he was in not in a position to defend himself and/or didn't have the courage to put that jerk in his place on his behalf... I hope at least that someone said "thank you" to him - not because they had to, but because they appreciated him landing them safely on the ground.

 

I don't agree that being thoughtful and courteous are ever a "waste of worry", I think they show respect. I don't really care whether you're an escort, a lawyer, a pilot, a welder or homeless - we all deserve to be respected.

 

 

But don't you see how you just created a paradox?

 

You are going to attack me because of a threat you feel.. Then I feel your attack as a threat (which it is) and I attack back.. making and everlasting circle of shit.

 

If you're going to go on and on about "manners" and your ideas of "respect", don't create a paradox by fighting it with more rudeness...

 

You're going to put the rude person in a bad mood and it's going to spread. Maybe if people took the high road and were the bigger people, those who freak out will feel like asses afterward and may double think their behavior in the future.

 

The fact that a handful of people here would treat rudeness with more rudeness proves an awful lot.

 

I freaked out at this poor clerk once.. I was having a bad day and someone where he worked had screwed up my order and I eventually lost it.

The guy was overly polite and controlled in his responses the whole time.

After I left and cooled off I felt like a total ass.. I ended up going back and seeing him another day and actually apologized to him and thanked him for not letting my bad day get to him...

 

People can't always find you to apologize after, but that doesn't mean that they don't think about it and regret things..

 

The original post talked of understanding.. and as I said, it goes both ways.

 

Fighting rudeness with rudeness or aggression is just stupid though..

You'll just spread more toxic emotions around, maybe infecting more people than who would have been bothered by the jerk who would have stopped talking when everyone ignored him..

[A***** A***** 510]

I'm afraid I would have been a little more direct. I would have said something to the effect of, "I'm sorry you may miss your flight. Perhaps you would rather I risk your life and the lives of everybody else on the plane just to get you here on time?" Of course I would say it with a big smile on my face. Especially when he realizes how stupid he sounded. Of course nobody thinks that you're the one they're going to blame if you fly through the storm and somebody gets hurt or killed. That makes me really angry.

 

I think along the same lines as you, but I am MORE blunt. Just ask Angela Of Ottawa:lol:

[Andee 220524]

I think along the same lines as you, but I am MORE blunt. Just ask Angela Of Ottawa:lol:

 

Yep...Angela does NOT mince words - she may appear sassy, but she says it how she see it....I'd like to see her in the House of Commons asking the Government questions during Oral Questions (Question Period)! :butt:

[A***** A***** 510]

Yep...Angela does NOT mince words - she may appear sassy, but she says it how she see it....I'd like to see her in the House of Commons asking the Government questions during Oral Questions (Question Period)! :butt:

 

In all seriousness, I wish I had the chance to watch the house debate when I was there! Oh, and I wish I could grill the PM about a few things or two:mrgreen: