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I'm not sure wikipedia is the best source of information. A word can be reappropriated by a certain community- 'faggot' by the gay community, 'nigger' by the black community, etc.- but when it is used by others who don't belong to that community it IS offensive. As you said, your gay friends call each other 'faggots' as a sign of trust and camaraderie. But outside the gay community, 'faggot' is a term generally used to insult the gay community. Same with 'nigger.' It depends on who is using the word and in what context. I don't know where it came from but to speak of women in that manner, and in so judgmental a way, is misogynistic. I felt the sting of that word very deeply and that seems to make people really angry, but sometimes it's not about an ideal world where words mean nothing. Sometimes it's about how people want to be, and want not to be, described by others. I have a right to say that I don't want women described as ...... by men. Words mutate and transform with time. Just because they come from a neutral place does not mean they stay there. And words do not stay on a level playing field either. Words of a similar meaning can have very different effects.

OK did you ladies not read what he wrote? I'm very very liberal but i certainly would take offence to anyone calling a lady that....especially on a board full of sex workers....we need to stand up for each other and not let people treat us in such a demeaning way...he meant it no other way other then the context in which he said it. It's a sad day when we let others mistreat us that way..i was happy to see that a couple of the gents stuck up for us in public...i was saddened that others didn't...Emma A

FYI: I do not moderate the SP ONLY area as the ladies do this themselves and if something needs my attention (or a need for me to intervene exists) I will step in one one or more of the ladies brings the problem to my attention... and only if no other option exists. I do not read all the threads posted in that section. Some BAD dates listed in that area obviously give out personal information (Phone numbers, emails, IP's, etc..) but if you have done nothing wrong you do not have anything to worry about - this section is for the ladies own protection and they treat the area very well and surprisingly get along very well with each other! (I was concerned that we would have a lot of cat fights but that is far from the case) The ladies do not use the area to gossip about you guys. Referring clients to SP's is actually illegal in Canada so the ladies can not post such things as a "Good clients list" or a "referral list" (I can't allow such a thing legally and such a thing would break a certain expected level of trust) But... if you guys pull no-shows, treat a lady bad, hurt her purposely (Physically or mentally), are rude, drunk/intoxicated, etc... your info will be posted in this section as all "confidentiality" you had with that lady you blew when you wasted her time, ripped her off or assaulted her. Now... if your on the bad date list for anything significant chances are your not a member here. If you are the ladies don't know your membership name here on cerb or they would have you removed. If... one of the ladies reports you for something the other ladies will often comment (Stuff like "Yes, he did that to me too" or "I have not had a problem with him"). Bottom line... the ladies who know you will jump in and save your ass. (This has happened in the past).

Man, I'm so naive about this type of behavior. I just don't get it and maybe it's an age thing but life is way way too short to be miserable, unhappy, mean and rude. If you wouldn't treat your SO, mother, sister or daughter that way,then why is it ok to treat a SP differently. A lady is always a lady until she doesn't want to be. Peace Mr Green

Every so often I think about the ladies I've met that I don't see anymore. There's still contact on cerb, but months go by without hooking up again; meanwhile I am meeting others and occasionally posting about those encounters. This world definitely has a transient nature about it - girls vanish with no warning and clients fall off the radar with regularity. There is also the thrilling aspect from the client's perspective of seeking out something new, something different and wanting to experience that intoxicating unfamiliarity again elsewhere. Yet occasionally I feel a small pang of regret that I have not reconnected with several people that I had some great times with. Now if I had a million dollars, I wouldn't go see the other Barenaked Ladies, I would probably do this a bit more often, and have the resources to go back and revisit certain girls whom I would love to see again. But I don't. Chances are I won't be either - starting to scale back my adventures. So it makes me wonder if there's a slight feeling of loss or a bit of curiosity on the sp's part when this happens. I know it is understood some people embark on this very rarely, others love variety, and a dozen other reasons where this is shrugged off as an afterthought and nothing else. A thick skin is no doubt a prerequisite for this occupation. But are there times when a girl kicks back and thinks, "What happened?" Not in a 'what's wrong with me' kind of way, but more of a reminiscent, 'would be nice to see him again' manner. The professional, stock answer is to say, 'That's how it goes and it's ok', but surely there are exceptions to the rule?

Believe it or not, I actually have some clients who are in my house no more than 15 minutes. I charge for time, not acts, so I never rush anyone and tell them they are more than welcome to stay the full time. Nope...They don't seem to mind that they came fast and say they're good to go and leave with a smile on their face. So really, who am I to argue? These are usually the guys on their lunch hour or who have jobs where they pop in between appointments. I love daytime in the burbs! The record was Mr. 3 stroke. After he was done, I asked him what he would like to do for the remaining 27 minutes. He said he would never be able to go again and that he was fine, that that happens all the time. Now that time, I actually felt guilty. But yes, different strokes and time categories for different people. That's why guys like you would not be impressed with the "get 'em, get 'em off and get 'em out" type girls.

And likewise, just because they have changed once does not mean it can't change again. A word is just a word until you give it the power to hurt. Posted via Mobile Device

I don't know what was written, nor do I want to know. I think a lot of people don't understand the power of words and what they mean. Demeaning and hateful words are often thrown around in media and popular culture, which desensitizes people to them. A phrase from a comedy routine may be hilarious in one context, but using it in another is very hurtful. Thinking a little before a statement can often save a world of hurt later on. I just hope the ladies and gents on here will continue to treat each other with the respect that we all deserve.

I bought it off the internet http://www.ultimatepersonalshaver.com/ FYI....the powder that comes with it is not necessary and just makes a mess.

misadventure, Veronica Sway - Mmm, mmm!