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What is the point in raising anxiety about the theoretical possibilities of being arrested for seeing an independent paid companion? I really don't understand this at all. We do not live in a repressive, totalitarian dictatorship. Big Brother is not watching your every move. As long as you're engaging in activities with competent adults (that is, adults who are capable of giving consent freely), in private, without disturbing the neighbours, you have nothing to worry about. Paid companions are not enemies. The overwhelming majority of us are not here to upset anyone's life; out them to their spouses, families or employers; or to rob, coerce or blackmail them. We are businesswomen making a living. Setting up clients to get caught by law enforcement agents is simply bad for business. No matter how important you are, or imagine that you are, with few exceptions, the police are not very interested in how you're spending your time. Really, they're not. If you're a major politician who needs to have the RCMP around you most of the time, you probably won't spend a lot of time with paid companions on a regular basis, not because of the legalities, but because your privacy is significantly limited by your role in public life. Otherwise, unless you're part of an international drug cartel, a suspected terrorist or someone whose activities are likely to put the public at risk, the police are not camped outside your residence, watching you. They haven't bugged your car, your landline or your cell phone. Everyone wants to feel important, but the fact is that most people are only important to those with whom they have direct, personal contact. So relax. Get over yourself. Don't let your ego run away with you. Independent paid companions are very rarely raided. Why? Because the police tell us that they're not interested in what we're doing as long as no one complains about it! Keeping a low profile while being careful about whom we entertain, how many we see and how late at night makes all the difference. You are more likely to be arrested for being found in a common bawdy house if you're visiting a massage parlor staffed by women who speak little English. When the authorities receive enough complaints about those places, they may raid them, particularly if they consider the management to be involved in human trafficking or if they appear to be employing underage women. Established, reputable massage parlors are very, very rarely raided. This is not because everything that goes on in them is legal, but because for various reasons the police elect to ignore what happens as long as the neighbours don't complain too much. Seeing an independent massage provider is no riskier than seeing an independent paid companion. Instead of finding things to be upset about--and ways to distress others--why not focus energy on finding ways to ensure that your encounters with companions are as unique, satisfying and rewarding for both parties as possible? The karma police will be happier!

*sigh* I'm finding myself conflicted now; Meg and Julia.... Offers like that from women like them don't exist in my reality. ;) Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

They don't check or ask. It is my responsibility to make sure I am healthy, not theirs. Just as it is your responsibility to take care of your own health.

Something else, with an incall, while the lady should be discrete in her encounters (ie don't have one client after another showing up at her hotel room, draw attention of housekeeping to say the least, or if at her home, one car shouldn't be pulling up as another leaving, well we get the idea) the client should be equally discrete. He shouldn't be standing around,waiting in the lobby, looking at his watch, maybe carrying a bouquet of flowers (or something else that centres him out) with him. He should arrive go right to the elevator and go, just like he belongs there, just another customer. And even if the staff on duty don't recognize you, for all they know you checked in when they were off shift Discretion is everyone's responsibility A quick rambling RG

Then it's a good thing we have an impartial moderator to defer to when situations get out of hand, threads are hijacked, or insults are thrown around. I didn't read the entire thread, so I didn't see the personal attack you speak of, but if you're offended or concerned I would suggest you should discuss it with the proper authority. As for the original topic, I'd be interested in seeing a reference to an actual case where a client was arrested for hosting SPs in his/her home or hotel room. I'm sure it's very unlikely to happen, but the wording of the laws is fishy enough I can see how they could be bent in that direction. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Julia, I soooo would! Oops guess you meant this for the guys :)

For crying out loud....semantics...all of this is simply semantics. It comes down to what you are comfortable with. Chances of an independant lady offering discreet incall being busted is close to nil. The heat is on street, underage and obvious "pimp" involvement. No need to create a sense of panic with "what ifs". You can make up your mind as to who you want to see but to create a sense of panic is not really productive. Do your homework and choose wisely and everyone remains safe. My 2cents

Agencies don't hire SPs, they represent them.

you know, we can have cool AND pink....

Congrats Old Dog! Although, that's 3000 dog posts, so it's really only about 500 human posts. :D

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Absolutely. And, of course, it's always worth finding little details out from the lady you're about to see so you know where you're going - so that you can walk in the front door and straight to the elevator rather than looking around for it, and then know whether to turn left or right when you get out... it all helps with flying under the radar, and than helps everyone.

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Ha. And since when has the strict letter of the law mattered? LE are quite capable of sending letters, arresting people, and then mysteriously failing to ever actually press charges. If you want an example in a completely different context, using your cellphone to take pics or video of police doing things - in a public place, where there's no expectation of privacy - that they may not like made public is a good way to get your phone (or camera) confiscated. This is completely illegal on their part, and if you press the issue you'd probably get your phone and/or camera back... although you'd be likely to find that any material relating to LE doing anything they shouldn't had been mysteriously erased. Back to the matter at hand... yes it's entirely possible that sufficiently over-zealous LE might send 'Dear John' letters to people they suspected but couldn't actually prosecute. After all, where's the harm in callously screwing up someone's relationship with their SO? If they're suspected of having been in a suspected bawdy-house they clearly deserve it, right? Apologies for the rant, but the point is that the finer points of the law won't stop LE making your life miserable if they choose to do so. Having said that, I'm inclined to agree with Megan: unless you're unfortunate enough to be on the premises when somewhere is busted, nothing is likely to happen; LE just aren't that bothered unless something seriously criminal (drugs, minors, people-trafficking) is going on. If you're seeing another consenting adult (or two :) ) then the risk is so small as to be minimal. If you're that paranoid, you'll probably never make it to anyone's incall because it's far too dangerous crossing the road on the way there :)

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I like Carley because she is such a nice and friendly person, all while giving off little hints of being a very dirty girl underneath that smiling exterior.