Phaedrus

Actually, thinking about this a bit more... if an offer of an exchange of time for money has been made by one person and accepted by another, I *think* that's a legally enforceable contract, whether that happened on the phone or by email or PM or whatever else. I'm sure WIT will be able to quote chapter and verse on this for us. Of course, the practicalities and desirability of taking it to court would be another matter entirely...

Well, this has nothing to do with the last song, but it's nevertheless relevant (and they have an awesome name, too). David Waddell and the Hellbound Train - Truck Broke Down Sorry, RG - but I couldn't resist it :)

All good things have to come to an end, I suppose. We'll miss you, Steve. All the best for whatever you get interested in now... and hope to see you back with recharged batteries someday :)

Do I have to die?

Sorry to hear that, RG. Broken vehicles suck :( But - and ladies, please correct me if I'm wrong on this - I don't get the impression that cancelling with a few days' notice would be a huge deal for most ladies (the ones who have arranged a trip are, of course, another matter entirely) as I don't get the impression that many people book *that* far in advance... of course, I may be talking absolute crap here, in which case I'm sure someone will say so :) On the original subject of the thread: I honestly don't see how a cancellation fee can realistically be charged after the event, irrespective of the desirability or inherent fairness of doing so. I get the impression that all a lady who's been left hanging can do is refuse to make further appointments with the same person without a deposit being paid in advance, or blacklist him, or spread the word so he gets blacklisted everywhere :)

No problem! And although I know this, it nevertheless always manages to become "Massage Artiste" in my head, unless I really think about it. No, I don't know how this stuff gets in there...

Well, to try and answer the original question a bit more specifically... First up, a disclaimer: YMMV. And as has been said already, there's no substitute for asking the lady you're seeing. All MAs I've seen will give you a massage. Definitely with hands. With other portions of the anatomy... some do body-slides, some don't. Some may for a little extra (in MPs in particular you'll sometimes get different rates for different levels of nudity, and with/without body-slides); with others, it's all just part of the experience. As far as touching the lady you're with goes... I think most are OK up to "normal SC limits". Some are OK beyond that. As for kissing your MA, or various parts of her... some MAs are OK with it, some aren't. The ones who are will arrange things so that this is easy for you to do if you like; the ones who aren't will arrange things so you can't reach. If in doubt, ask. Reciprocal massage - you'd really have to ask, if you particularly want that. As for who's an MA and who does FS: ya, sometimes it's a bit tricky to work out. To be honest, the best advice I can give you (assuming you're looking for MAs) is to hang around, read recos and the massage forum and see who's talked about (clue: Megan and Erin are both MAs, and very good ones at that :) ). You'll gradually accumulate knowledge and a list of ladies you'd like to see. The problem is that this list will rapidly become big enough that you won't know who to see next, and having seen some MAs you'll want to go back, which makes things even worse... yes, it's a nice dilemma to have, but tough all the same :)

Why bother staying alive? You'd be... Bad Religion - Better Off Dead

Awesomeness!

Can't say I've ever had any issue with it, either side of Bank St. There's a *lot* of ladies who are available during the day. However, it may be the case that lunchtime is a popular time for people to escape from the office for a little R&R, in which case you may find it's tough at short notice. If your schedule allows it, you may find it advantageous to decide who you want to see and book in advance. Granted, some of us have jobs that tend to involve getting hit with meetings or other unavoidable commitments at short notice, so it's entirely possible that this won't reliably work for you...

Two words to that effect! Panty-Liners :grin: Nah. Just get naked and stay naked. And have fun ;)

No Internet? *shudder* No, I wouldn't get rid of it, unless I wished to cut myself off from the world entirely. It's my link to... far too many things for comfort, actually. Yes, I have a cellphone, obviously, but I don't actually use it that much.

That all seems a bit odd to me. I just don't see how "I was asked not to say too much, but I'll spill the beans to anyone who asks" is a coherent approach to take at all. Either things are private, or they aren't. I don't think I'd be too impressed by anyone taking that line, and I'd imagine that ladies who prefer to keep things private might be quite unhappy about it - especially if they'd specifically asked! I think it's probably better to say less on things like this if there's any doubt. More details can always be provided in future, but once they're out there you can't call them back.

Can't find the original source for this, but it amused me anyway :)

Sticking with our composer du jour... Chuck Berry - Roll Over Beethoven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsp4VCbVvn4

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Another song about the daily grind... originally by Joe Jackson, but I like this version: Anthrax - Got The Time Edit: I *have* to post this too: bonus Lego stop-motion version. Clearly the most awesome thing you're going to see all day.

You could have done that anytime. But now you can smite them with lightning bolts if they don't :)

*sigh*. I'd always thought the French were more sensible about this sort of thing than some, but it seems the Swedish model has its fans there too.... ================= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16047284 France's parliament has backed a proposal to fight prostitution by making payment for sex a crime punishable by fines and prison. The National Assembly approved by a show of hands a cross-party, non-binding resolution which is due to be followed by a bill. Six-month prison sentences and fines of 3,000 euros (£2,580; $4,000) are envisaged for clients of prostitutes. Some campaigners reject the bill, advocating prostitutes' rights instead. Around 20,000 people are believed to be working as prostitutes in France. France has been committed to abolishing the practice in principle since 1960. The resolution said the country should seek "a society without prostitution" and that sex work "should in no case be designated as a professional activity". It urged abolition at a time when "prostitution seems to be becoming routine in Europe". In 1999, the Swedish government brought in similar legislation to criminalise the buying of sex, while decriminalising its sale. Under existing French laws on prostitution, summed up by French Roman Catholic newspaper La Croix France officially aspires to abolition but the act of prostitution itself is not a crime Prostitution is only liable for prosecution when it troubles public order A client faces prosecution only if the prostitute is under-age or "particularly vulnerable" because of illness etc Pimping is punishable with a prison sentence of up to seven years, and there are some 1,000 convictions annually Guy Geoffroy, an MP from the ruling UMP party who sits on the commission, said France's political parties had reached a consensus on the issue because it was a matter of "republican ethics". Nine out of 10 prostitutes were victims of trafficking, he said. "From now on prostitution is regarded from the point of view of violence against women and that has become unacceptable for everyone," Mr Geoffroy added. Yves Charpenel, head of the Fondation Scelles group which fights human trafficking and also advocates criminalisation, said it was unclear whether the bill would eventually be adopted. "There is no consensus yet on this subject," he said, according to AFP news agency. "Will the deputies who vote for the abolitionist resolution then vote for its concrete application? More than ever, it is necessary to clarify the French position." Another advocate of criminalisation, a French-led men's initiative known as ZeroMacho which was inspired by the historian and feminist Florence Montreynaud, has published a manifesto against prostitution, gathering some 200 signatures across EU states. ZeroMacho member Jean-Sebastien Mallet told French women's website Terrafemina that it wanted to speak for "the vast majority of men - hitherto silent - who do not use prostitutes". However, France's sex workers' trade union, Strass, called a rally outside parliament to oppose the proposed bill. Several dozen prostitutes and supporters gathered under placards reading "Sex Work is Work" and "Prostitution - No Repression - No Punishment - Rights!" Punishing clients would "deprive prostitutes of work that provides them with a living, give clients more power over them and push prostitutes to turn to intermediaries to be able to work", said Sarah-Marie Maffesoli, a lawyer for Strass. In a letter to MPs, it and other groups accused politicians of treating prostitutes as "marginals whose voice does not deserve to be heard". Strass draws a clear distinction between consensual prostitution and sexual trafficking. A man at the demonstration who described himself as a "client of sex-workers" said he was "against enslavement". "If I thought that the prostitutes I know were being enslaved, I would no longer be a client," he told Reuters news agency.

Since she's too modest to do so herself, I should also mention that Erin's in the same sort of area as Paradise (so not too long a drive from Barrhaven), and definitely worth visiting :)