mister_crufty

"If you compare yourself to others you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans." - Max Ehrmann

I just wish it was easier to weed out the cheats and users without painting the legitimately needy with the same brush.

Hey! I didn't know this was the 'First World Problems' thread! Just kidding Malika. ;-)

I definitely agree with you and some of the above posters that certain government programs are too 'lax' and do actually cause a disincentive to work. I don't necessarily feel that this is entirely an issue of individual responsibility though. I think the concept of 'clawbacks' of benefits can be poisonous. There are many cases where attempting to work and better yourself will actually put you in a higher tax bracket and claw back benefits to the point where you're making less than you would idling. Is that an indictment of socialism as a whole? I don't believe so. I find it perfectly logical that people would choose to not work if they would make less money by working. I just feel that many of these programs should be re-vamped such that you're ALWAYS better off to work.

I believe it's a mistake to conflate socialism and communism. We enjoy many forms of socialism in this country. "Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members ; the last, the least, the littlest." -Cardinal Roger Mahony Broken states like Somalia are examples of places where power and money rule and all are left to their own devices. We are a rich society. I don't begrudge anyone the basics of life. Providing essentials to prevent those less fortunate from starving or dying of easily curable diseases doesn't disincent the majority of people from working hard. It's just basic human decency to want to take care of those in need. I have pity for the homeless and sick. I don't want to see anyone suffer. I recognize that some 'take advantage' of my good will but it's a price I'm willing to pay to live in a society where all have a chance. If you're successful in our society it's because you took advantage of many forms of public infrastructure like roads, schools, hospitals, water and electricity. As Obama said, "You didn't build this." So why would you then turn and begrudge others the same advantages that you had? Seems selfish.

Somewhat unrelated question for OP. Please feel free to tell me, "None of your business" if it's too personal. Your preference for a shorter woman. Is this just a general preference or are you also fairly short? The reason I ask is because I'm fairly tall (6'2") so almost all women I meet are quite a bit smaller than I. That's fine but I kind of dig the whole 'amazon' thing too. Taylor Monroe was my first and one of the things I like about her is that she's quite tall (around 5'10" I think)....it puts a whole different perspective on things...everything just fits together differently if that makes sense. I sometimes think the coolest thing ever would be to find a really tall lady - my height or even taller. Just to see what it's like to be on the other side if you know what I mean. Let her throw me around a bit...a woman that I have to climb. :-D I think that if you're not super tall, you might have a really fun time with some of the taller ladies here...have you ever considered giving that a go? Any other short guys who love the tall ladies?

I guess that's a little off-topic but the segue was started above. WRT responsibility, the older I get, the less equipped I feel to judge anyone else. I don't know what someones life has been like, what tools they have at their disposal, what their upbringing has been. The argument can be applied to many things. "You're fat, why don't you just lose weight." "You're poor, why don't you make more money?" "You're homeless, why don't you get a job?" I think that a lot of us are born on third base thinking we've hit a triple. If we grew up in a shitty third world country, malnourished and under-educated, would we be successful? Is there something inherently better, more noble, more complete in us than in other humans? Or are we just more advantaged? We grew up with health care, education, hopefully parents who gave a shit, public infrastructure, clean water, enough food, etc. Things that took generations to build by our ancestors. There is a third world hidden in the first world. It's in native reserves, poor drug infested neighborhoods, abusive homes. We just don't see it as clearly. "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." - Sir Isaac Newton

Oh my...thanks for the reco. I have a huge attraction for Indian women...I didn't know there were any on CERB.

Cancer. Fuck cancer. I just found out my father-in-law has esophageal cancer. It's not good. Fuck fuck fuck. I like my in-laws more than I like my own family and this just fucking blows.

You win. I surrender. Of the 157 posts I've made in my first month here, for which I've been thanked 46 times, every single one of them was shit designed to troll you all and ruin the board for all of you. I'm an asshole troll and this board is better off without people like me. I get it. How do I delete my account?

I wish this were true my friend. I'm really upset when I get attacked for something that I thought was innocent fun. I'm not here to troll people. I consider a lot of people on this board my friends. I'm just sorry that every word that is written gets scrutinized, torn apart, looking for ulterior motives or sinister intents. "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" -Freud. Additional Comments: I really honestly thought it WAS a fun post. Seriously...it's just about teenage fumbling in the back of cars. --sigh--

Wow. I find it really sad and disheartening that people are so cynical. There is no ulterior motive. I'm too old to have sex in a car and have no real interest in it. It's just a memory. Sometimes people just share stories. I thought some of you might like it. I'm really depressed by some of these replies. I'm not trying to game the system or looking to do something illegal. I just thought of some fun times that I had in the past and thought maybe others might have similar memories to share. I regret the choice of title but really, hearing the term 'car date' had an immediate association for me that wasn't what is typical on CERB and it brought this story to mind. That's all. Nothing complicated, nothing sinister. I always assume people are good and have good intentions by default. I guess not everyone is like that. Yeah, I think I'm out. Sorry if I offended you all.

Believe me, that makes it all the more impressive. You write better English than many native speakers.

Fair enough. Other than the subject, it really was just supposed to be some reminiscing about teenage dating. I'll report myself to the moderators and let them make the call whether or not the thread should be removed.

It brings up a really interesting subject doesn't it? Since I've started here I've wondered if I would be evolved enough to be a boyfriend/husband to a provider? I might have said no before I met some of the ladies here but now I'm not so sure. I've never been a jealous or possessive type and I think I would see the job as just that, a job. I think the trade off would be totally worth it. Yes, she has sex with other men as her day job but what do you get in exchange? A beautiful, horny, open-minded, non-jealous woman who really loves sex and puts a ton of effort into maintaining her appearance and skill set. I mean, being in a relationship, you still get all the other stuff that reality brings. Bad hair days, arguments about in-laws, etc. The woman she is for the one hour fantasy is not the 24/7 obviously. But you know what? You get all that other stuff with any woman. Therefore to put it in computer terms, it means that providers are Women++. Or Woman 2.0. An upgrade from the standard version. Too bad I'm not hot enough to score an SP girlfriend but mad props to you guys that have. You're living the dream.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I hadn't thought of that. Okay, well as was originally intended, for all those watching, please consider the last paragraph purely a rhetorical device and not a serious proposition. I would never advocate or propose any illegal activities. I'll edit it out if needed but I kind of like the ending though...brings it together. "That rug really tied the room together." - The Dude.

Oh!!! I didn't understand that. The last paragraph was more a rhetorical part of the story rather than a serious proposition. So you're saying that going to someone's in-call or having them come to your house is fine but if I were to take a lady out on 'dinner and a movie' date to make out at the drive-in it would be illegal? Man...the law is kind of subtle isn't it? I had thought the illegality of it was the propositioning on the street sort of thing. I didn't think there was a problem with taking an SP on a regular date. Isn't that why ladies post their social rates?

Thanks CK, I understand that rule but I didn't think that just using the term was illegal. You read my post right? It's actually not talking about 'car dates' in the CERB sense of the word. If the actual term itself is verboten then shit! Now I've said it twice! And you said it in the reply above! We better make a run for it! --scanning sky above for black choppers with moderators in them-- :-D

I guess this is a negative term in this business right? Skeezy street corner pickup for a quick BJ or whatever? Whenever I hear it I have such a different vision in my mind. I remember when I first got my drivers license and got to borrow my dad's car. Freedom! The first taste of not having to worry about parents surprising you in the bedroom fooling around with a girl. We used to call it 'parking'. "Sarah and I went parking last night..." "Dude! High five!" Sometimes we'd call it, "Going to watch the submarine races." I'm sure there were other euphemisms. Awkward fumbling in the back seat, getting tangled up into awkward positions which were a little uncomfortable but hey, you were getting some so you don't dare complain. Steamed up windows, hoping nobody (the police) would come check the car. Scraping the frost off the inside glass before you could drive away when it was finally time to leave. It's funny to think back but my first and only "group sex" encounter was in a car. My dad always had big cars back then. Mercuries and Fords with V8 engines, bench seats and rear wheel drive. Fun in winter. There was lots of room and you didn't even need to go in the back if you didn't want to. My buddy and I were on a double date and went parking off in the woods somewhere. He was a pretty conservative, church-going, innocent kind of guy who I always saw as pretty asexual. I don't know how it happened but I guess teenage hormones are a hell of a drug. Pretty lame by the standards of this board but we each were making out with our respective dates. Me in the front seat, him and the back. The big bench seats give a lot of privacy so we both went pretty much all the way. Certainly clothes were off and fluids were being exchanged. We never talked about it again and I doubt either of us even remember who these girls were but what an experience for a young guy. Making out with a girl in the front and hearing sex noises coming from the back seat. We were too polite to look but just the sound and thought of it was such a turn on. So yeah, I have fond memories of 'car dates'. Maybe some lady here might like to go to the drive in with me some time. I'll rent a big old Crown Vic and we'll go to the drive in and not watch the movie. Just like being a kid again.

Fantastic post again Jessie. You should write for Cosmo or Playboy or something. Correct me if I'm wrong but English isn't even your first language is it? Well done.

I'm a programmer. I've been programming since I was a little kid. I do it for a living now and spend all day in front of the computer. I don't necessarily run home and write programs for fun that much anymore but even still, I spend an awful lot of leisure time in front of the computer reading about technology, fine-tuning my home network, etc. I love technology and it's great that I can get paid to work with it. This must be the same for many women here. To be honest, I'm actually a little jealous of a lot of the girls here... Even if not all of the sex is that great all the time, like they say, "Doesn't matter...still had sex."

Of course I know that silly! It's just that the streetwalker thing is the most common view of this business on TV I think. Plus, my joke wouldn't have been funny otherwise. :-D Additional Comments: Actually, let's not just 'shrug this off'. I understand my humor is often un-funny to some people. You can't hit a home run every time but hey, I'm just trying to lighten up peoples day. Hopefully I'm at least a little funny sometimes. So was I, me, personally, mister_crufty, comparing you ladies to street walkers? Of course not. I know I haven't been here long but I kind of thought we might be past this....you ladies should know by now how much I love you all. So yes, perhaps it wasn't a funny joke but at another level, it's a pretty sad comment on how this profession is portrayed in media versus the reality on the ground. I know you all have been here a long time and you have a deep understanding of how all this works and what the rules are. I compare this to software. When you have a new user of software, their first impressions are the most important. After a very short while, they'll start automatically working around the awkward parts of the interface, taking for granted that things just are the way they are. That first impression data is so valuable because it shows what the average user will struggle with. I'm that new user. I admit I fumble around a lot. I post a lot of stuff and I didn't read the user manuals (sticky threads) as thoroughly as I should have. Stupid users...never read the documentation. So I'm really sorry if I sometimes offend people. It's not my intention and I hope that people will continue to be as gentle with me as they have been. Just keep in mind, I'm a super ordinary, incredibly boring and average guy who has just discovered this place. So when I post my impressions, it's not necessarily good or bad...it's just what I see as a new user who has lived his whole life surrounded by lies and misinformation. I'm more involved here than most so you guys all get to watch and laugh as I make an idiot of myself. But I bet that the mistakes and misunderstandings I've made are very similar to those that many other men new to this game make.

That makes a lot of sense. If you want longevity in this industry, you've really got to make sure you love the job. I think the subject has been covered before of how girls who just get in it for the money and not love of the game tend to wash out really quickly. I don't really know why I thought greek would have been any different. I guess it just seems more taboo to me. I'm pretty vanilla and sheltered so just wrapping my head around the fact that ladies actually love this job has been a big mental shift for me. Thanks for all the thoughtful replies!

Superbowl party tonight. Making Serbian cevapcici, ajvar, and lepinja. Plus some appetizers like puff pastry sausage rolls and spinach wheels. Made triple chocolate brownies and dulce due leche cheesecake bars too. Gonna be good.

Agree with above. Real life is not porn. As someone who has done a fair bit of Greek over the years, there's a lot of lead-up and prep to ensure everyone has a good and safe time in real life. I'm extremely gentle myself if for no other reason than being anything less will result in back-door privileges being revoked. :-D Sex is like golf. Should always ask permission before playing the back 9. ;-)