TonyK

Was her as up recently? The link is not working now

No,you didn't. You diverted it to women rights, autonomy, objectification, dehumanisation, business model, taxation, budgeting blah blah. Those were not relevant to my question.

Lol! If anyone is exposed in this conversation, it's you. You even lost a potential client, I saw one of the guy who said he will never plan to book with you based on your attitude shown here. So let other folks decide who got exposed here. If I was wrong, I would have been cornered from all directions. But fortunately some of the hobbyists understood what my question was and I did not intend any disrespect and answered it clearly. You don't get to say whether it's my business or not. You don't own me, you don't own this platform. You are not entitled. You are just a member, like me. I have every damn right to ask whether my time and money is worth. I don't give a damn about what you care and support. You can support hundred movements and indulge in verbal diarrhea anywhere you want. Who cares? And like you said even I don't even care if you are offended or not. I will keep asking what I need to know as long as I keep the decorum of the forum.

"just because those women don’t fit their budget." You were being plain arrogant here and disrespectful too how much ever you try to twist your words like budget, income blah blah. You were just trying to implicate that I didn't have enough money so was checking whether to spend more money on elite. And for the second part, who told you that these women are not in my radar? Who told you that I am never going to book them anyway? Do you have a say whom I should book and should not? Where is the freedom of choice lol! Again, your double standards are being exposed time after time.

And btw I received a few dms from fellow hobbyists who have seen both Elite and Regular YFL providers. They gave their honest feedback about their experience which will now help me to decide whether I should go to a regular or Elite provider. That was all I was looking for in first place but unfortunately the post got hijacked and the topic was diverted to something which was not even in the picture. Thanks to the folks who understood the many reasons why this platform is for.

If it was not in your mind, then you wouldn't have brought it up. You mentioned multiple times in your post. Let me highlight below "But what they don’t have is the right to pick apart women they’re not even planning to book, just because those women don’t fit their budget." "especially by those who were never going to book her anyway." "But that should never turn into a debate about the worth of women who were never on his radar to begin with," Who told you that I don't have budget to book an elite provider? I am pretty sure you will never understand or consider that as being disrespectful to a hobbyist.

Too quick to judge that people who bring up the discussion do not have budget to book an 'Elite' provider or don't have plans to? Omg! Now you speak like you are entitled lol! No 'disrespect' to hobbyists right? Judging their budget, capacity? Double standards have hit a different level today. Gosh!

Is it so? In that case the business owner is also not always right! If it's a business then I dare to furnish the legal business name and GST/HST number. Any business can easily provide it as long as they are paying taxes right? You are now self mocking. I would rather call this as a service model, not a business model. That's why girls here are often mentioned as 'Service Providers' and not 'Business Woman'. There is a difference but I guess everyone wouldn't get it, as you mentioned common sense is not that common!

Lol! What you said is true. Its lack of understanding. But it's you who doesn't understand because you can think only from your point of view. It was you who got exposed when you said it's a 'business' model. If it's a business, then I am the customer and I have every right to ask. And you are right. I am the one paying for the service. Not you. If that offends you, I can't help.

You keep putting your words in my mouth (which btw if you haven't noticed, is disrespectful by itself). I have never questioned a woman's choice. Any woman can charge whatever they want to. But same way, I can ask my questions as long as YFL has not clearly defined what the difference is. I am paying for the service. Not you. So what? I care about what experience I am getting if I pay more. Wotz wrong in that? Yes experience might differ but I cannot see every single person to determine which experience I like better. So I ask fellow hobbyists. Who are you to judge whether I need to experience with my own eyes and not rely on other hobbyists? This is a platform where everyone can share their experience. I am person who is okay with making a decision based on that. It's my right, my choice, my decision. You said it's a 'business model'. And for your kind information, anybody who pays to a business has the right to understand whether its worth it. I am glad that you called this out as a business and not a service. So that makes my statement and question so valid. Isn't it? You have every right to challenge. Who questioned that? If anyone is crying it's you since you misunderstood my whole point. Yes this is a public forum and I have every right to post the same way you consider you have every right to challenge. It's a two way street so no point in getting offended. I never said YFL is a scam, in fact I am one of their regulars. Again, don't put your words in my mouth. Constantly questioning? Can you show me another post of mine on same topic? You are just raising some false accusations to put me in a bad spot. Or maybe YFL? If I may borrow your words, this is after all a 'BUSINESS' right?

Yes, I asked 'worth it'. I didn't ask whether the women, providers in general are worth or not. You are just twisting my words to put me in a bad spot, which God knows why. Anyone who has common sense would have understood what I meant. If every women is unique, then why are they classified into buckets? You see you are being hypocritical here. You don't see women as objects but you can classify them and offer same services in different rates. YFL doesn't define why they classify some providers are elite, which is one of the root causes of my question. And do you think you can answer on their behalf? Of course it's their choice or their agency's choice to decide their rate. And I don't demand for a reduced rate or a service that they done provide. But obviously I can ask a question for clarification to the fellow hobbyists. People can choose to decline answering and if moderator thinks it's inappropriate, they can delete the post. But it OBVIOUSLY IS MY CHOICE to ask for a clarity. That is also a reason why this forum is for. Again, I don't need to book something and experience is it myself when I have so many fellow hobbyists here who could answer me. If not, they can ignore and move on. So you mean to say standard service is not rendered by a human being? I did not place woman in categories, YFL did. So based on your words, they are being disrespectful to women. So you can go and question them, not me.

First of all, I am not questioning the worth of a woman. Please don't redirect this towards an unnecessary topic which was not at all intended. We, as clients, are paying for a providers' service and time. So I don't know how it's a crime to discuss whether it's worth our money to spend more on a service which seems to be standard as they are all managed by a single agency. If every woman is unique as you said, then why are they classified into certain categories and all women in that category has the same rate? And in that way, classification itself should be unethical right?

I haven't seen Ashley for a while so maybe things might have changed with her. My comment on the wound in mouth was for Lily Rose, not Ashley. Ashley was a gem.

Same with my last visit too. But she said she had a wound in her mouth so the restrictions applied. I am not sure whether it was just a reason to avoid as the agency had promised full gfe.

True. I have seen the Ashley before. It's not just the hair color. The new pics are of an entirely different girl.

I recently noticed that YFL sends only their elite providers to Halifax. New Brunswick guys are getting frequent visits from regular providers. Even some new like Ashley, Mia and Jasmine. Is this a big city strategy? I am not sure whether it's worth to meet an Elite paying more considering all YFL girls are equally beautiful and their services are standard gfe with regular or elite pricing. Thoughts?

Periodic maintenance of business critical equipment 🙂

I wish more girls join YFL.

Have you seen her recently? I have heard bad things about her from one of her previous room mates but maybe that's not true too. No recent review is a bit of a red flag for me.

Totally, but she has moved to the Elite category in YFL so cannot afford anymore sigh!

I have already posted in recommendations section

Could you provide a link to ad?

I don't know. I tried to convince her for long but she was only okay for a hj, nothing else.

There is a girl in kijiji. Goes by the name Alie. She is asking for $100 for 45 mins massage including happy ending (hand job only). No touching, fully clothed.