Oil Fields

[Barney 2543]

With Oil hitting $40.00 the easy money is gone. The lights are almost off in Calgary, A lot of pain to come, with a boom comes bust. We are all feeling the pain now as oil declines beyond what any company ever dreamed. The good paying jobs and paid travel are gone. So its important to get out and vote ABC. Anything But Conservative this is what happens when your Gov't puts all their eggs in one Basket Oil. Dig in deep its going to be a long painful Reccession. With Iran ramping up production soon its only going to get worse for all of us, No Jobs , No Money .

[silverado17 12689]

I have friends and family that is out there working and there all scared of what's happening said they might be back in ontario soon no more big money

[splaton008 1568]

Just wondering what this has to do with "escort discussion"? Shouldn't this be somewhere else ?

[StefanieBell 240]

This will be my first time voting, a few friends already have NDP signs in their yards I don't know a lot of the issues but I do know that the conservatives are not the right choice right now.

[silverado17 12689]

Just wondering what this has to do with "escort discussion"? Shouldn't this be somewhere else ?

 

with the shortage of money out west the ladies won't be getting many clients

[NotchJohnson 214069]

I think that every provinces are hurting right now, not just Alberta. We as a country should hold strong and be careful on what we spend our money on. As for election time do you really think that the other parties are better then the conservatives? I'm not taking sides but honestly did any one of thes parties ever kept there promises? The one thing I know is that back in the days the liberals(when Trudeau was in) offered too much to get elected and the country was not in debt before he was voted in.

 

Just saying...

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

With Oil hitting $40.00 the easy money is gone. The lights are almost off in Calgary, A lot of pain to come, with a boom comes bust. We are all feeling the pain now as oil declines beyond what any company ever dreamed. The good paying jobs and paid travel are gone. So its important to get out and vote ABC. Anything But Conservative this is what happens when your Gov't puts all their eggs in one Basket Oil. Dig in deep its going to be a long painful Reccession. With Iran ramping up production soon its only going to get worse for all of us, No Jobs , No Money .

 

It seems for some the Conservatives are to blame for everything bad in this country. Everything will be perfect if we just elect another party? It's easier to blame a government than accept that we are susceptible to global economic issues. Other industries exist in Canada but should we also not make money in the oil sands when oil is high? All our eggs weren't in one basket.

[MightyPen 67414]

should we also not make money in the oil sands when oil is high?

No. Even if you make a billion bucks today, it's not worth it if in the process you bake the planet so that your grand-kids are gasping out their living on a poisoned, burnt cinder.

 

Lots of people knew getting at the oil the oil sands was an environmental horror-show all along. But greed made it seem like a good idea to the Conservatives and their oil-industry buddies. And now, they've done it all for nearly nothing.

[Barney 2543]

See everyone the World Revolves around Oil. From Toko to London. From New York to Toronto today Economic Disaster on every Horizon. Have a nice weekend everyone. It s been a long week .

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

No. Even if you make a billion bucks today, it's not worth it " IF" n the process you bake the planet so that your grand-kids are gasping out their living on a poisoned, burnt cinder.

 

Lots of people knew getting at the oil the oil sands was an environmental horror-show all along. But greed made it seem like a good idea to the Conservatives and their oil-industry buddies. And now, they've done it all for nearly nothing.

 

Chicken little? The sky is falling, the sky is falling! You are aware climate has warmed in the past without CO2? You make it sound like the oil sands were just developed during the last 10 years Consrevative rule. I thought it had been around longer than that.

[Mikeyboy 27113]

Chicken little? The sky is falling, the sky is falling! You are aware climate has warmed in the past without CO2? You make it sound like the oil sands were just developed during the last 10 years Consrevative rule. I thought it had been around longer than that.

 

News flash. .... the sky IS falling.

[cinelli 22184]

Totally agree with Mighty Pen, and lived in Alberta during the Peter Lougheed era.

 

The oil sands were nothing like what they are now.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Cinelli, wasn't the Peter Lougheed era something like 30 - 40 years ago? Nothing is like it was 30 to 40 years ago.

 

Mikeyboy, I hate to disagree with you but the sky is not falling. Climate changes. Earth has VERY warm cycles, followed by ice ages, followed by VERY warm cycles and so on. None of it was influenced by human generated CO2. We just expect we can maintain a stable temperature forever and CO2 is the current scapegoat for natural climate change. In a hundred years the oil will be gone and we'll have invented alternate energy sources. The Earth will continue to warm and cool as it has in the past.

 

Personally, I'm for nuclear energy and other viable sources but I'm not willing to scuttle entire economies in the meantime.

[Mikeyboy 27113]

Cinelli, wasn't the Peter Lougheed era something like 30 - 40 years ago? Nothing is like it was 30 to 40 years ago.

 

Mikeyboy, I hate to disagree with you but the sky is not falling. Climate changes. Earth has VERY warm cycles, followed by ice ages, followed by VERY warm cycles and so on. None of it was influenced by human generated CO2. We just expect we can maintain a stable temperature forever and CO2 is the current scapegoat for natural climate change. In a hundred years the oil will be gone and we'll have invented alternate energy sources. The Earth will continue to warm and cool as it has in the past.

 

Personally, I'm for nuclear energy and other viable sources but I'm not willing to scuttle entire economies in the meantime.

 

Yes. There are natural cycles of warming and cooling. These changes happen over thousands of years, not one generation. It is arguments like this that allow people to justify poisoning their own air and water, as well as that of their children. The economy is a man made creation and we can remake it if it means our continued existence. We first have to except that there is a problem before we can work toward fixing it.

 

As far as running out of oil goes, we are already seeing a reversion to the even dirtier coal in many countries for power generation as it is a cheaper option. We can't count on simply running out of one poison to save us. There is always another poison if we don't have the will to stop using them.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

If everyone stopped using oil, coal or fracked gas today we would be in the stone age quicker than you can say yabbadabbadoo. My main point is, I don't think there is anything wrong with taking a reasonable approach towards finding viable alternatives before disrupting or abandoning entire existing industries which will peter out eventually anyway.

 

In the meantime, the sky is not falling. Or is NYC underwater now, like they predicted by 2015? I could list many more inaccurate predictions but why bother. People have bought in to AGW because infallible scientists told them so. No point adding to the hot air.

 

Warning!! Warmest decade on record! Nope. 30's were warmer.

Warning!! The largest storm on the PLANET!! Stay tuned for details!! Oh, category 3 hurricane.

Weather has become entertainment and we are believing the hype.

[Brad 49548]

People have bought in to AGW because scientists told them so. No point adding to the hot air.

 

Yeah, I mean, since when has science ever proven anything or been a reasonable way to obtain knowledge and predict the future? Me, I'll stick to the tried and true method of reading goat entrails to understand the world thank you very much. Or at the very least Fox news.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Yeah, I mean, since when has science ever proven anything or been a reasonable way to obtain knowledge and predict the future? Me, I'll stick to the tried and true method of reading goat entrails to understand the world thank you very much. Or at the very least Fox news.

 

So, scientists don't make mistakes? Good to know. Funny though, I recollect scientists being wrong in the past? The Earth is "X" years old. Oops. Natural selection! Poppycock! Oops. Cosmological constant? Oops, no wait.. no, oops. Oh well, let's all parrot the latest scientific findings from now on. Secure in the knowledge that science doesn't evolve I guess.

 

By the way, reading entrails may be as accurate as past scientific climate predictions. LOL

[Brad 49548]

So, scientists don't make mistakes? Good to know. Funny though, I recollect scientists being wrong in the past? Oh well, let's all parrot their latest findings from now on. Science doesn't evolve I guess.

 

By the way, reading entrails may be as accurate as past scientific climate predictions. LOL

 

 

You know, I almost actually added a comment that obviously scientists haven't always been correct and have had to change opinions based on new evidence, but I honestly thought it went without saying. But fine, yes, it's true that sometimes a scientific theory turns out to be incomplete or a scientist gets it wrong. But that doesn't mean it's rational to suddenly disregard science entirely, and it's still our best method of understanding our world and predicting its behaviour. Or have you also stopped using and believing everything science suggests because you read someone's prediction that turned out to be wrong?

 

It may be that the prevailing scientific view and evidence will turn out to be incorrect as more is learned, and if it does I'll be more than happy to change my opinion. But until that happens a reasonable person would accept the current best evidence and findings and logic, rather than cherry picking odd predictions or believing the few that tell a person what they want to hear.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

You know, I almost actually added a comment that obviously scientists haven't always been correct and have had to change opinions based on new evidence, but I honestly thought it went without saying. But fine, yes, it's true that sometimes a scientific theory turns out to be incomplete or a scientist gets it wrong. But that doesn't mean it's rational to suddenly disregard science entirely, and it's still our best method of understanding our world and predicting its behaviour. Or have you also stopped using and believing everything science suggests because you read someone's prediction that turned out to be wrong?

 

It may be that the prevailing scientific view and evidence will turn out to be incorrect as more is learned, and if it does I'll be more than happy to change my opinion. But until that happens a reasonable person would accept the current best evidence and findings and logic, rather than cherry picking odd predictions or believing the few that tell a person what they want to hear.

 

OK , this is getting to be like ping pong. :) I said I questioned AGW science, not ALL science. Stop putting words in my mouth Brad! LOL

I happen to think it's a legitimate push back since their climate predictions have been wildly inaccurate in the past. Plus, I'm not saying don't consider the science. Just don't overreact to it.

Btw, I corrected my earlier post within minutes but you must have quoted it already before it got reposted.

[Barney 2543]

I am not just talking about the Oil Sands that is a very small part of the Big Picture. The point I was trying to make is Oil controls the world , Middle East USA Etc. Big Oil influnces stock markets around the Globe and at the End of the Day how much money is in our pockets for now and the Future. Everyone enjoy your week , I am glad you have all enjoyed this subject.