SP safety - what can you do about it?

[kingBong 93]

A few weeks ago, I went to see an SP, and when I arrived there were 2 SPs. The SP I had an date with asked me if I didn't mind if her 'friend' stays in the apartment and I said no problem. I even found it a bit exciting that she was hearing us in the bedroom (she was in the living room).

 

I finished my business and left, and I thought that was a good means for her own safety, that did not bother me at all and that she didn't have to ask for my private information. That did it for both of us.

I know that some SPs here are doing this and I think this is one good way that protects the SP, even though no one method is 100% sure.

 

And I seriously think that this is more efficient than having a full legal name (if the SP can have that name of course, which is another story...).

 

Do you think having a buddy SP system is feasible or is this only for young SPs that are not so keen on their own privacy to have someone else share the incall?

 

And don't shoot the messenger!

[Parker 19761]

Is this thread about the 'buddy system' or SP safety in general?

[etasman2000 15994]

A few weeks ago, I went to see an SP, and when I arrived there were 2 SPs.

 

would you have been equally comfortable if it was her male friend ?

[kingBong 93]

Is this thread about the 'buddy system' or SP safety in general?

 

It's about SP safety in general; the buddy system for SPs could be one approach.

 

I am trying to see if there are different ways for the SPs to protect themselves and at the same time be able to make money. Being too demanding by requesting the client to give away their privacy will necessarily reduce their business, but all approaches are open for discussion, including those who are very demanding on the client.

[Tiffany Amber 7031]

Iam sorry, but dont try and start a new thread about OUR safety! We have our own ways to keep ourselves safe. That's why some ladies ask for your name/number/work info.

 

I actually believe we should start screening like the USA. Some ask for photo ID or Passport! Then if every lady does the same screening, then you wont have a choice. Well actually you do, give the info asked or stop hobbying!

[kingBong 93]

would you have been equally comfortable if it was her male friend ?

 

Actually I did that too about two years ago in a massage parlor where I was a regular. Her husband was in the living room, and it went for more than an erotic massage.

 

Additional Comments:

Well actually you do, give the info asked or stop hobbying!

 

Well you are right; and for me and a LOT of others (silent majority here) it's going to be the second option.

[etasman2000 15994]

I am trying to see if there are different ways for the SPs to protect themselves and at the same time be able to make money. Being too demanding by requesting the client to give away their privacy will necessarily reduce their business, but all approaches are open for discussion, including those who are very demanding on the client.

 

The statement is bold is conjecture.

 

The 'requesting client give away their privacy' has and is working for many ladies. There is something called a feedback loop, if these ladies making untenable requests are hurting for client they will self-correct.

 

IMHO the ideal means for SP security incorporates identification and verification of the client, coupled with a physical frisk of the client before meeting the SP followed by the physical presence of an armed third party within the same room as both SP and client who has been pre-primed for the SP's safeword.

 

Yeah, likely not going to happen.

 

Security is a continuum. Every procedure is there to address a particular risk. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

[Tiffany Amber 7031]

 

Well you are right; and for me and a LOT of others (silent majority here) it's going to be the second option.

 

I guess your the new Ambassador for the Hobbiest! Speak for your self please.

[Parker 19761]

Unfortunately, other methods of screening which require the SP not take any personal information only protects the SP until she meets you.

 

I don't really want to list out all the methods of screening and safety as I feel it may take away from someone else's trying to be safe.

 

If I tell you all the ways other may keep themselves safe, I could be giving you ideas of ways to circumvent those... and I hate hearing about these girls who fell victim to yet another sicko they have yet to catch.

 

I just wished that someone would have taken information of people like The LI Ripper, or the CL Killer, or Picton, or Joel Rifkin... you know, BEFORE body upon body started piling up.

 

'Extreme' screening method might not have stopped people like this, but it could have had them caught long before they were able to kill that many people.

[Angeltbay 612]

i use my cell phone, as soon as i dont feel comfortable. if its an incall, and the guy wont leave, or is getting violent (although this has never happeenedf) all i gotta go is screem for help, or make a call, i have someone who i set something up with who lives in the same apt block as my who will be my helping hand if ever need be.

 

as for outcalls, my cell phone! lol like i said as soon as i start to feel uncomfortable i will end the call, for instance i had this one gentlemen who was getting too rough, and said something about my giggling would get me killed if i did that around the wrong person. i asked him to grab me another drink, and i texted something to my driver, he called me in an instant and stayed on the phone with me untill he got there.

 

Also, i use the buddy system, for incalls and out, when a gentlemen arrives/ i get to their location i always call in, and say im in and fine, if i wasnt comfortable when i first get to an outcall, all i would excuse myself, and call my driver, so hes on the phone with me, and i would explain to the gentlemen im not comfortable, and i have to leave.

[Guest **n****er]

I have never seen an SP even though I've wanted to see several ladies on here. The only thing stopping me is my career field and the incredible amount of descretion required. Asking for photo identification may make the sp feel more secure...but there is no way a person in my position would be able to provide that.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

It's about SP safety in general; the buddy system for SPs could be one approach.

 

I am trying to see if there are different ways for the SPs to protect themselves and at the same time be able to make money.

 

So let me ask you, who should assume the extra cost for the "buddy system"?

Should it be added to our donation or should the SP absorb the fee because you are not willing to provide personal information?

 

Unless I am spending time with a gentleman and a lady friend for a menage a trois, I do not want anybody else in my suite.

I enjoy privacy and intimacy when I spend time with a gentleman!

[etasman2000 15994]

The only thing stopping me is my career field and the incredible amount of descretion required.

 

Then you are a prime candidate for third party verification systems of which there are many out there.

[Miss Scarlett 25073]

I was unable to give you more rep points, so I will agree with you here! Many people forget that:

 

1. these services cost money!

2. having security is ILLEGAL!

3. and for someone who won't give his "name" due to privacy issues, but is willing to have others there at the location? WTF????

 

Kingbong I think you are the one with mental issues!

 

So let me ask you, who should assume the extra cost for the "buddy system"?

Should it be added to our donation or should the SP absorb the fee because you are not willing to provide personal information?

 

Unless I am spending time with a gentleman and a lady friend for a menage a trois, I do not want anybody else in my suite.

I enjoy privacy and intimacy when I spend time with a gentleman!

[Parker 19761]

I have never seen an SP even though I've wanted to see several ladies on here. The only thing stopping me is my career field and the incredible amount of descretion required. Asking for photo identification may make the sp feel more secure...but there is no way a person in my position would be able to provide that.

 

 

If you find a reputable you'd like to see but are worried about privacy and being screened, talk to her about it.

 

She may not want ID, she may not want a reference or a full name... she might have 1 to 4 other methods up her sleeve and if you're polite and open about it I'm sure most would talk to you about it and offer you a couple options of screening they use.

 

If you are not comfortable with the methods she's chosen, thank her for her time, politely decline making a booking and move on.

 

I think all clients should be prepared to give a little towards the comfort and security of the escort they're trying to see.

We want to give you a good time, we don't want to spend all our free time screening and wondering about you-- but we have to.

 

We have to guard ourselves against the bad people so we can continue to be happy, healthy ladies, around and in good spirits to have tons of fun with the great gents out there.

[Areez 11906]

So, here is my two cent, what we could do to increase the safety of our lovely sp.

 

 

buddy system? really? NO! i do not feel comfortable at all having a dude sitting outside while im spending time with a lady, be it SP or MP.

 

 

my thought on screening: If you do not want to be screened by your choice of ladies, then more than likely.. your loss. Never been an issue.. IF you really really worried about losing something significant because you have fun with the ladies, why do it? are you really having fun while in their company?

 

have we never heard the expression "Ladies first?" its been around for a while. look it up...

 

It's about SP safety in general; the buddy system for SPs could be one approach.

 

I am trying to see if there are different ways for the SPs to protect themselves and at the same time be able to make money. Being too demanding by requesting the client to give away their privacy will necessarily reduce their business, but all approaches are open for discussion, including those who are very demanding on the client.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I'm not going to get into why should an SP should ask for full name etc or not since everyone has their own comfort levels. I work with another lady and I feel safer. However, this doesn't mean I am going to stop screening. We all have our own methods and just because someone doesn't like a certain method of screening doesn't mean it's right or wrong. There are ladies out there who won't ask for a full name but I'm sure they have a screening process.

 

We do what we do to have to protect outselves just like we protect our home or lock our cars. I had an unnerving experience happen to me the other morning ( not SP related btw) where I would have been in a position to have to defend myself and I scared the hell out of the guy so bad ( I was in such a state of shock myself to the point where rage set in preparing to defend myself) that he was actually apologizing to me while he was running away and I was the one chasing him! I was simply protecting myself.

[EmilyRushton 253356]

 

Well you are right; and for me and a LOT of others (silent majority here) it's going to be the second option.

 

You are so wrong on that, you have NO idea how many people are comfortable providing full details as per a ladies request. You obviously do not like the policy that quite a few of us have, so just let it go, quit knocking down a policy that works well for allot of us.

[Maverick 2873]

I don't necessarily fall on one side or the other of this debate, but I feel this is an appropriate point to make:

 

If you don't feel comfortable complying with the verification/screening/security procedures an SP uses, whether its because of your job or your personal life, you probably should not be seeing an SP.

[kingBong 93]

I am glad that this thread that I started is going well also, which means that the subject idea was not foolish after all.

 

I think CERB needs more discussions on interesting subjects even if we all do not agree on them. My personal opinion is that this is really lacking on CERB, but then you don't have to agree with me.

 

I think that you cannot sustain the interest in a forum where everybody agrees with everybody and it becomes really BORING (and I hate to be bored). Again you don't have to agree with me on this and it's ok!

 

Nonetheless, I like to be a member of CERB to check on the SP schedules and marginally for some well respected recos.

 

Therefore, I have decided to join the silent majority on CERB and not contribute. Believe me I have to do this and it's not really a matter of choice for me now.

 

Consequently, and since I CANNOT DEFEND MYSELF AND MY VIEWS NOW, please REFRAIN FROM QUOTING ME. It is only fair I think.

 

Have a good life and play safe!

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Consequently, and since I CANNOT DEFEND MYSELF AND MY VIEWS NOW, please REFRAIN FROM QUOTING ME. It is only fair I think.

Ummm, you can but you're choosing not too. You seem to make a lot of demands:

 

a) Only men reply to this thread.

b) Close this thread.

c) Don't quote me.

 

Once you post something publically, anyone can reply. That's just the way the overwhelming majority of web forums work. If you don't want the world to be able to read and reply to what you write, then you shouldn't post it.

[kingBong 93]

Ummm' date=' you can but you're choosing not too. You seem to make a lot of demands:

 

a) Only men reply to this thread.

b) Close this thread.

c) Don't quote me.

 

Once you post something publically, anyone can reply. That's just the way the overwhelming majority of web forums work. If you don't want the world to be able to read and reply to what you write, then you shouldn't post it.[/quote']

 

Believe me I can't, but if you're a member of the other Board I will be happy to discuss this with you on there. I think you understand now.

[EmilyRushton 253356]

Believe me I can't, but if you're a member of the other Board I will be happy to discuss this with you on there. I think you understand now.

 

Since this "OTHER" board is somewhere you obviously would rather be, why don't you stick with it and quit nit picking about how "THIS" board is run. You asked questions, and received replies - since they were not what you wanted to hear and not everyone jumped on your side your getting bitter.

 

Let it all go, how we choose to screen, protect ourselves and stay safe is our business and it works, if you do not like it don't contact us. There are plenty of fish in the sea that use a methods that would work for you.

 

It is kind of creepy that you ask what methods we use to stay safe? Kind of sounds like you have an ulterior motive with the thread as you are comfortable seeing a lady who has someone else present, but your not comfortable giving out your name for the fact that the lady could be "Mentally Unstable" - I believe is how you previously put it.

 

On a positive note, yes the thread topics were in good nature, but I do not see why you got all upset when the ladies stood up for their beliefs. You mention that you have not been able to state your opinions, but alas you have in more than one negative post after another.

 

[crankshaft25 125]

being fairly new here I just wanted to say to all the ladies here on CERB that I really admire all of you for standing up for your right to screen people how you see fit. It makes me more comfortable knowing you take these sort of safety issues seriously.

 

I grew up in a country farm setting and was raised to treat everybody with respect and courtesy but unfortunately there are some out there who aren't as kind so please be safe!

[Ashley Ann 75247]

I only ask for a clients full name, if and when I go on an out call. I feel that is necessary for 2 reasons, the first reason is for my safety as I am stepping into an unknown territory , and the second reason is to confirm they are in fact there, so I do not waste my time or money.

 

For in calls, what I like to do, is check out their posts....as this is a good way to kinda sorta get a feel for their personality. For instance, if a man comes off as cocky, rude or disrespectful, and feels no way about expressing himself in such a way...this usually means he will be a lousy client.