wildbillpoker 111 Report post Posted March 29, 2013 wow, so many options to choose from... as an avid person generally interested in communication with others and understanding them... if you understand yourself first.. then finding what you're looking for is a snap! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianPantyClaus 100 Report post Posted April 10, 2013 Thank you for the guide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kinkyfixneeded 100 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Thanks for all the information here everyone. Really good to know and will come in handy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ***t***iv*** Report post Posted May 1, 2013 Maybe this could be converted into a point form do's and dont's section? I have something to add, hope this is the best place for it.. Do: have a few conversation starters in mind before arrival Dont: ask the lady if shes been busy Wether you mean to or not, this sounds like you are asking the lady if she has been with anyone else lately. A no win situation for your female companion, and the ambiance of your encounter will be affected. She says yes, underlying thoughts of other clients visits ensue in both minds. She says no, she looks undervalued and you wonder what's wrong with her that you dont know about. Just know you arent the only one ever, but you are the only one in the moment, and be satisfied. Or find a woman who wants to be 'kept' lol but you probably already have wives for that eh? Do: estimate the likelihood that she is high/low volume if that is an important factor to you Don't: ask if you are the first one to see her today If you are particular about hygiene, check ads or recos and find a provider who is also particular about hygiene, or straight up promotes excellent hygiene as one of their assets. If you want a low volume provider, look for a lady who explains the type of client she wants. This is a good indicator that she only accepts dates from select few who meet her criteria. She may or may not require a larger donation, this generally speaks to a lower volume provider bt not always. Availability is also a factor in donations and client volume. I hope there is still a book in the works. Keep us posted, I will buy one for sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted May 2, 2013 Since this thread's been bumped, it really ought to have a link to the Happy Hobbyist thread, which contains a lot of good advice and really ought to be read by everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slaveforyou 100 Report post Posted May 13, 2013 Super helpful. :) Going to pass that one on for sure. Thanks for sharing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Befuzzled 752 Report post Posted June 9, 2013 Here is one to file under "Unusual Situations". When approaching an incall location at your appointed time and a police cruiser is parked two doors away facing the entrance of said incall location, what is the proper course of action? A) Knock on the police officers window and ask them how long they will be B) Confidently approach the incall entrance, carefully remove your pants and knock loudly C) Scream, turn and run D) Discreetly call 911 and report a stabbing a few blocks away as a diversion tactic Okay, I don't actually know the answer but I do not believe that it is listed above. When faced with this scenario I chose to walk straight past the location, return to my car and wait a few minutes before deciding what to do. My choices seemed to be either go to the location or call and explain why I was either not there yet or not coming at all. It was extremely likely the police officer was simply taking a break and grabbing a bite on a side street in their cruiser but there was no way I had the guts to test that theory, so I phoned explained and apologized profusely. The provider seemed very understanding, I rebooked a later date, added an extra pile to the donation and have yet to be arrested. Incidentally, actually knowing all of the legalities would have really helped in this situation as the provider claimed to be fully licensed for massage services and did not feel there was anything to worry about (but was still very understanding should I still be worried, which I was). I should probably go read the legal section now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166766 Report post Posted June 9, 2013 Always trust your gut feelings, Befuzzled. The worst that can happen is that you're mistaken about the situation and you have to give up on a lovely tryst for awhile. There are many reasons for the police to park on a residential street. Perhaps someone in the neighbourhood has been up to no good recently and the police are paying them a visit. It may be that the police have gone to give some bad news to someone. Or it might be that one of the neighbours has called the police about something, such as a suspicious-looking person outside their house last night or a robbery. Whatever has happened, if a police cruiser was parked in the vicinity of my doorway, I wouldn't be the least bit upset if a client hesitated before coming to my door. A simple phone call at that point makes good sense to me and if the visitor didn't feel comfortable coming in, I would understand completely. Good for you for tipping the lady the next time you saw her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvaAdore 7767 Report post Posted June 9, 2013 1. Deciding what kind of experience you are looking for2. Determining what kind of SP to use?ie, agency vs indie 3. Planning the encounter, contacting, appropriate language etc 4. Fees, tipping, true cost 5. Etiquette and hygiene 6. Unusual situations All of these have been addressed and once I get it done I will forward the final copy to the Mod to post in its entirety. I want personal experiences so that I can compare what I have written to the experience of the hobbiest. I have been on the client end of the stick on many occasions, as a woman I think my experience is probably very different that that of a man... Catherine Hey Cat, I think this is a great thing to put together and kudos to you for even attempting it. Taking on a task of that magnitude would be daunting for any one person, you have some major cahones! The points you mentioned seem to be geared mainly towards hobbyists, but what about SP's? A how-to guide on how to even get started would be very cool, and something I looked for when I first started (and still!). I remember I had a LOT of questions, and was mostly too shy to reach out very much other than a few PMs and maybe a post or two. Not sure if you are interested in taking on that side of the equation or not (it's a big topic), but if so, some of my questions would have been: 1. How do you get started - where do you even start?! 2. How do you know it's the right kind of job for you? 3. How do you get things set up - how do you choose an incall location, how do you work finances (IE: THIS THREAD), how do I decide what to charge/what's fair pricing? 4. How do you screen calls and choose clients? 5. What do you do if things get nasty, or if a client becomes obsessive? Who do you reach out to, what if I'm scared to go to the cops? CAN I even go to the cops?! 6. How do I build a clientele? 7. How do I protect my pictures and info from being stolen? I guess at the end of the day, becoming an escort is the same as starting a small business venture but that can be confusing, and it's not exactly like most of us want to call up the Entrepreneur Center and ask. And if we did, there are a lot of intricacies around it that are specific to SP's. Most of us either have a mentor or figure things out by trial and error, but it would be really cool to have something put together for new girls who want to try being serious in this profession. I am proud of what we do, and it is my hope that the ones who play games and do sneaky things like bait and switch, or use fake pictures etc would take this career more seriously if there was a guide that said "You want to be one of us? It's all here." Of course, there will always be a few rotten apples in the barrel, but that will happen regardless of what industry you're in. I realize that some women may not like divulging trade secrets or whathaveyou... but I feel like if we share our resources we will become stronger as a unit. Maybe I am idealistic? lol. I dunno, just some thoughts... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166766 Report post Posted June 9, 2013 EvaAdore, the kind of resources you're looking for do exist in a number of places. In general, though, we don't talk about a lot of details on public boards because that compromises our safety and security. While some ladies are looking for information about what to do and how to do it, there are other people who work hard at figuring out how to get around restrictions and defeat security plans we make. Finding an experienced mentor in your area really is a great way to go. And be prepared to pay her for the time she spends with you. Increasingly, those of us who have been working in our industry for a significant amount of time are asked to mentor new companions who, sadly, often prove not to be so interested in what we have to say, particularly about some of the harder aspects of our work. We need to be careful what we say about security measures, screening, what we earn and how we manage money, for example. Charging for our time is an excellent way to be sure that those who ask for help are serious. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvaAdore 7767 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 Oh for sure, I can see how it would be detrimental to post that kind of thing on a public board. It's kind of a sticky situation though, because for new people like I was who do want to learn, I was too shy to really ask any of the SP's for help - I don't like being "a new girl" in any situation (school, neighborhood, etc) so I found it really intimidating. After all, I figured, why would any of these women care enough to help me, I am nobody to them yet! At least that was my thinking. Since I've been a part of the community now for some time, I know differently and that most of the SP's on here are actually very personable and nice, but I didn't know that when I was still green. I also don't like feeling like a burden on people, and my train of thought was that I would be an inconvenience to the SP who would take time out to speak with me. I tend to learn better by studying and reading, and that has helped me a bit in this business (Google is a great thing), however it can kind of only take you so far. If you have questions about being an SP there isn't always an answer Google is going to come up with. I guess I just wished there was some sort of guide that says step by step how to get started and how you can improve your business without having to inconvenience someone else. But I suppose if you are paying, it isn't really an inconvenience, is it! lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitbybjlover 100 Report post Posted July 6, 2013 thank you so much for all of this information, it's really helpful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yourboss 100 Report post Posted July 10, 2013 how early should one attempt to set up an appointment with an SP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300291 Report post Posted July 10, 2013 how early should one attempt to set up an appointment with an SP. It depends on the lady and gentleman. For example because I live in smalltown Ontario and need to travel and get a hotel I plan far ahead. One lady for example who I see regularly and now consider a friend, our first encounter was planned seven months in advance. Right now I've just gone through verification/pre-screening with a couple ladies that I plan on seeing in 2014 I do this because I don't have the luxery of if I want to see a lady right now just going to see a lady. I need to plan ahead. But others can pick up the phone or text and drive across town for an encounter Long story short it depends on everyone's circumstances RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest realnicehat Report post Posted July 10, 2013 how early should one attempt to set up an appointment with an SP. Roamingguy is right, it definitely depends on your circumstances. I would recommend booking as early as possible (days in advance if you can, weeks if travel is involved) to ensure you can get the time slot you desire. Just be sure that you will be able to keep the appointment. I realize life happens, and so do the ladies, but cancellations can really mess up their week. Imagine you have your budget set based on a 40 hour work week and out of the blue your boss tells you to stay home Thursday. Those kind of hits hurt. Of course we all have days where we wake up horny and need to see someone ASAP. At that point a couple of hours notice is best but be prepared to do some leg work as your first few choices may be busy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yourboss 100 Report post Posted July 10, 2013 If a reply from the SP has not been received in a few days does it mean that she simply does not wish to see you? I was quite respectful in my message and I've yet to get a response. The SP does arrive in town on AUgust 1st so could that be a contributing factor to the lack of reply? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regent 35404 Report post Posted July 14, 2013 Thank you for this thread, it's been great to read so many different experiences and perspectives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radura 100 Report post Posted July 15, 2013 Thanks! Very helpful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest realnicehat Report post Posted July 15, 2013 If a reply from the SP has not been received in a few days does it mean that she simply does not wish to see you? I was quite respectful in my message and I've yet to get a response. The SP does arrive in town on AUgust 1st so could that be a contributing factor to the lack of reply? A lack of reply could mean any number of things. People get busy and sometimes messages get lost in the shuffle. I'm often guilty of saving voicemails and forgetting to call back, only to find them weeks later. If you really want to see her try sending another message. If that one fails to get a response simply move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Fantasy 144625 Report post Posted July 22, 2013 If a reply from the SP has not been received in a few days does it mean that she simply does not wish to see you? I was quite respectful in my message and I've yet to get a response. The SP does arrive in town on AUgust 1st so could that be a contributing factor to the lack of reply? It may be multiple reasons. 1) She may be in vacation and not accessing her emails. 2) If she use gmail (Which seem rather popular) and you use hotmail, live or yahoo, the email may go directly in the spam box. It has happen a multiple time in my case 3) Some SP will not answer inquires emails if not ALL of what she required is in the email, no matter how polite you are. 4) May be lost in the interweb If I were you I would resend an email saying something like Hello xxx, I've emailed you 5 days ago. I was wondering if you receive my previous email, I'd love to be able to meet you ! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted July 24, 2013 2) If she use gmail (Which seem rather popular) and you use hotmail, live or yahoo, the email may go directly in the spam box. It has happen a multiple time in my case +lots on that. Yahoo is particularly bad for having a bad spam-reputation, if anyone has an account there. If I were you I would resend an email saying something like Hello xxx, I've emailed you 5 days ago. I was wondering if you receive my previous email, I'd love to be able to meet you ! Or drop her a PM here... CERB's PM system seems pretty reliable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Duke 114 Report post Posted August 29, 2013 What a great. Explanation well done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Emily J 172062 Report post Posted September 1, 2013 I just came across a great article from one of my new favourite sex worker blogs, The Honest Courtesan, and I thought it might be helpful here in the newbie section. :) Advice for Clients - By Maggie McNeill :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jessabram 110 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 I love the Honest Courtesan! Definitely a favourite read of mine... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiger25 110 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 I'd just like to add that hearing my first name is I find an important part of the experience, making it more real I guess. And hearing it often throughout our time together turns up the girlfriend experience too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
