Is it wrong to ask a SP for verification?

[drakonis17 1011]

Unfortunately there are so many scammers out there almost seems like there are more then real people. But they get so angry and offended when I ask. I try to be very polite about asking and I've even offered to pay for it. Also I find I'm being asked for deposits almost everytime too. Something I don't mind doing but not without verification from her end. I just wanna find an SP I connect with to be a regular with them

[RobertDion 142]

Yeah, when more and more they ask US for proof of ID and verification, but they conveniently ensure that they don't want to provide any more photos or info to prove that they exist or that they are in fact in town, not until they get a deposit, then..... poof, they vanish. WE are the customers, WE are the ones losing out on money, Yes there's creeps out there, but THEY offer the service, WE pay for the service, at what point have the tables turned that WE are the ones needing to pay up front, WE are the ones being scammed far more often then them, so I don't understand why they need to prove that they wont con us. They claim it's for their personal safety. We are the ones losing out with all these deposit scams, fake ads, bogus SPs claiming to do this and that out of their own personal safety, when all I'm seeing on these forums (literally some dedicated solely to out the con artists) are stories of how we have to navigate through all this slop to find anyone that isn't out to screw us over.

 

Imagine if you hired a carpenter to re-build your back deck, and they came over to see the house, and asked for money up front so they can 'buy the lumber', asked for proof of ID, a copy of your hime insurance, a picture of your drivers licence, and an Amazon gift card, you know, just to make sure you were "Serious" and you weren't going to back down. Like, WTF... you don't LOSE anything by me cancelling, buddy.... I'm hiring you to build my deck, why are you wanting all this proof of ID that YOU could use to steal my identity with or black mail me with it later??

[Incog 1179]

It's not "wrong" to ask, but in reality, the question should be "why" are you asking?

 

It's been discussed at length I know, but I can't seem to help myself from repeating this. With only one possible exception that I've read about in the past 5 or so years, this typically only happens when you're trying to save pennies on that scandolous "LeoList witch-hunt"...and once you've been scammed/blackmailed, you haven't saved a thing...

 

The companions with active Twitter/X accts. & legit websites/reviews are not scamming people for deposits. They are, as has been oft repeated, simply looking to confirm your name, for nothing more than their own safety.

 

There's a lot of people out there, having a lot of fun, because verifying an established SW'er is not a challenge at all, and they don't shy away from paying a deposit...

 

Why argue with anyone for verification when there are so many established (& "verified") companions around? Many local, and seemingly even more visiting in a fairly steady stream...

 

Just my unpopular opinion... 

[fun4rob 101]

31 minutes ago, Incog said:

It's not "wrong" to ask, but in reality, the question should be "why" are you asking?

 

It's been discussed at length I know, but I can't seem to help myself from repeating this. With only one possible exception that I've read about in the past 5 or so years, this typically only happens when you're trying to save pennies on that scandolous "LeoList witch-hunt"...and once you've been scammed/blackmailed, you haven't saved a thing...

 

The companions with active Twitter/X accts. & legit websites/reviews are not scamming people for deposits. They are, as has been oft repeated, simply looking to confirm your name, for nothing more than their own safety.

 

There's a lot of people out there, having a lot of fun, because verifying an established SW'er is not a challenge at all, and they don't shy away from paying a deposit...

 

Why argue with anyone for verification when there are so many established (& "verified") companions around? Many local, and seemingly even more visiting in a fairly steady stream...

 

Just my unpopular opinion... 

Well, I wouldn't say unpopular, but not everyone shares this view. I happen to fully agree with you. SPs take risks with strangers we can't fully comprehend. If they choose not to verify themselves for legitimate or less savoury reasons, or require a deposit and that doesn't jive with someone's preference then those folks should move on to someone more accommodating or more easily verifiable through other means. There are lovely verifiable women throughout this board, and many visiting beauties who rock our worlds...all we need to do is respect their person, their wishes and their boundaries.

[MikeyInHalifax 377]

To be fair, more and more SP's are verifying themselves with social media, OF, Twitter accounts etc. the majority of the ladies I've seen recently all have "verified" using other apps etc. I haven't been disappointed in a long time by any bait and switch scams.

[AdamSandler 272]

52 minutes ago, Incog said:

 

The companions with active Twitter/X accts. & legit websites/reviews are not scamming people for deposits. They are, as has been oft repeated, simply looking to confirm your name, for nothing more than their own safety.

I will say this is often true but there is at least one SP I can think of who advertises all the time (although it has been a while) and she does seem to scam people. Website, active twitter, etc. I won't name names but she has changed her name about 10 times in the past couple years. 

[Pamela Luscious 239]

It's your job to do the proper research and choose someone that makes you feel safe. A legitimate swer has already done her part proving she's real.

 

https://www.lyla.ch/topic/214084-how-to-screen-an-indépendant/

[StephanieMystique 1934]

It is wrong and honestly, imo, disrespectful. 

The legitimate SPs have gone to great lengths to provide information to validate themselves as true and authentic. Websites, photoshoots, multiple ad platforms, social media accounts (which in today's age are super hard to maintain against the algorithm that are constantly banning us), online content platforms like OF and NLDTCONNECT and recommendations/reviews.  Most valid SPs will have at least 2 or those available.

 

Most of us have spent 1000s of dollars and hours to create this. If you haven't followed the links provided in the ad to verify them, that's on you. For the rare ad that was stolen from one platform and placed on another, most of us are google-able. 

 

If someone is new and is just building up, that will be up to you on how you want to move forward. If someone is constantly changing names, that should be a red flag it's self. 

 

If you take a couple of minutes to think with the big head vrs the little one, you should be able to make an informed decision of seeing someone or not. 

[Rhyan Mae 41]

I’m always happy to send a verification photo - that doesn’t mean including my face, but I do not edit out my identifiable tattoos and am happy to write a sign of their choosing/pose with something specific that can’t be faked. That said, I do find it offensive to continue to ask for photos, ask for full nudity or special outfits for free. I’ve done my proper verification, provide reviews, and through tryst was ID verified. I don’t have a website, I prefer to stay quite a bit more private. but I also do not ask for their ID or a deposit unless they are asking me to travel an extensive distance. I do sometimes ask for an uber to be booked, as a form of deposit that is of no benefit to me, other then assurance they won’t fall asleep or change their mind by the time I arrive. This is only for first time, late night requests typically.

 

when it comes to multiple verification requests, it’s typically somebody trying to mess around unfortunately.

[therealsweetie 132]

On 8/27/2025 at 1:58 PM, RobertDion said:

Yeah, when more and more they ask US for proof of ID and verification, but they conveniently ensure that they don't want to provide any more photos or info to prove that they exist or that they are in fact in town, not until they get a deposit, then..... poof, they vanish. WE are the customers, WE are the ones losing out on money, Yes there's creeps out there, but THEY offer the service, WE pay for the service, at what point have the tables turned that WE are the ones needing to pay up front, WE are the ones being scammed far more often then them, so I don't understand why they need to prove that they wont con us. They claim it's for their personal safety. We are the ones losing out with all these deposit scams, fake ads, bogus SPs claiming to do this and that out of their own personal safety, when all I'm seeing on these forums (literally some dedicated solely to out the con artists) are stories of how we have to navigate through all this slop to find anyone that isn't out to screw us over.

 

Imagine if you hired a carpenter to re-build your back deck, and they came over to see the house, and asked for money up front so they can 'buy the lumber', asked for proof of ID, a copy of your hime insurance, a picture of your drivers licence, and an Amazon gift card, you know, just to make sure you were "Serious" and you weren't going to back down. Like, WTF... you don't LOSE anything by me cancelling, buddy.... I'm hiring you to build my deck, why are you wanting all this proof of ID that YOU could use to steal my identity with or black mail me with it later??

we need copies of your drivers license and to know exactly who you are because as a female it is extremely dangerous to be meeting random men online there are many stories of SP’s LITERALLY getting murdered. it’s way more dangerous for us than it is for you which is why we need much verification. You may risk getting scammed out of your money when in reality we are literally risking our lives. I’ve gotten assaulted many times which is why i don’t do outcalls anhmore and if i did i would need extensive verification to know exactly who im seeing. Even bringing them to my location i need verification. It’s scary out here as a female and the fact you’re so inconsiderate of that just shows what we have to deal with on a daily basis. 

[therealsweetie 132]

On 8/27/2025 at 11:40 PM, Pamela Luscious said:

It's your job to do the proper research and choose someone that makes you feel safe. A legitimate swer has already done her part proving she's real.

 

https://www.lyla.ch/topic/214084-how-to-screen-an-indépendant/

Exactly! Thank you. 

[RobertDion 142]

Seriously?  That's low. Your excuse for needing someone licence and down payment and references... is that THAT will prevent you from being murdered??? I sincerely doubt any SP would be doing this line of work if you legitimately feared being murdered that much. You're counting on the client's honesty to simply not give you a fake licence, and WE are trusting that you won't blackmail us later by simply threatening to not sell our identity/info online. 

 

[Babygirl_brooklyn 313]

3 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Seriously?  That's low. Your excuse for needing someone licence and down payment and references... is that THAT will prevent you from being murdered??? I sincerely doubt any SP would be doing this line of work if you legitimately feared being murdered that much. You're counting on the client's honesty to simply not give you a fake licence, and WE are trusting that you won't blackmail us later by simply threatening to not sell our identity/info online. 

 

Service providers get assaulted and murdered everyday. All it takes is a quick Google search and you’ll see this happens here in Canada, the US, and globally.
 

This is very much a real fear for us and I wouldn’t doubt almost every woman who’s posted here on Lyla, if not all, has been harmed, stalked, or assaulted by a client in some way. Don’t bother arguing with me on this forum, you aren’t changing my mind. I’m speaking from lived experience. 
 

What’s low, is denying that this is the reality of participating in this industry. 

[MsManda 25824]

We're actually looking for an assurance that you won't try to stalk, assault, or try to kill us. Most of us have experienced somethinggg that's made us need to add more screening protocols 🙄

It's not just because it's just great for business to reduce accessibility to us lmao 

 

Studies for decades have shown that this simple thing saves lives

 

But go on, booking randos from LL who don't know to screen yet, and preaching on here like the risks with those sps are the norm among the entire industry

 

You can control your blackmail risks by not seeing unverified providers with no established online presence. 

Just like we control ours by not putting ourselves in (literally THE MOST) vulnerable positions with unscreened men. 

 

 

AND if I hear one more thing about that oneeee provider who was scammy 🙄😂

Most of us sps have had more than one absolutely horrible experience as well. 

Y'all know not to book her, the same way we've learned how to screen out some of the bs that we don't want to deal with 

 

Beating a dead horse here, to the same 5 people every time

 

 

 

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31803]

6 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Seriously?  That's low. Your excuse for needing someone licence and down payment and references... is that THAT will prevent you from being murdered??? I sincerely doubt any SP would be doing this line of work if you legitimately feared being murdered that much. You're counting on the client's honesty to simply not give you a fake licence, and WE are trusting that you won't blackmail us later by simply threatening to not sell our identity/info online. 

 

Yes, because that type of shit really does happen

Wether it be asking for I d, a photo, deposit or whatever one needs to feel safe 

I for one will NOT invite anyone into my personal space without a deposit and will NOT book with private/fake numbers 

My safety is the upmost important thing to me, I have dealt with a few crazy men it's not nice

I will also book or not book based on the energy, if the gentleman is aggressive with the conversation and doesn't respect my boundaries I will NOT see him

 

If the person contacting me is not comfortable providing the information required they are welcome to see someone else

The least you can do is do your research on the lady before booking her

 

[Pamela Luscious 239]

8 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Seriously?  That's low. Your excuse for needing someone licence and down payment and references... is that THAT will prevent you from being murdered??? I sincerely doubt any SP would be doing this line of work if you legitimately feared being murdered that much. You're counting on the client's honesty to simply not give you a fake licence, and WE are trusting that you won't blackmail us later by simply threatening to not sell our identity/info online. 

 

Sell your identity 😂 be for real. You should worry about facebook actually selling your real life data more than us just having your name or drivers license. 

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31803]

2 hours ago, Pamela Luscious said:

Sell your identity 😂 be for real. You should worry about facebook actually selling your real life data more than us just having your name or drivers license. 

It's wild how many men are so inconsiderate of our safety, boundaries and time 

And it's gotten worse over the years 

 

[MsManda 25824]

On 8/27/2025 at 2:46 PM, Incog said:

It's not "wrong" to ask, but in reality, the question should be "why" are you asking?

 

It's been discussed at length I know, but I can't seem to help myself from repeating this. With only one possible exception that I've read about in the past 5 or so years, this typically only happens when you're trying to save pennies on that scandolous "LeoList witch-hunt"...and once you've been scammed/blackmailed, you haven't saved a thing...

 

The companions with active Twitter/X accts. & legit websites/reviews are not scamming people for deposits. They are, as has been oft repeated, simply looking to confirm your name, for nothing more than their own safety.

 

There's a lot of people out there, having a lot of fun, because verifying an established SW'er is not a challenge at all, and they don't shy away from paying a deposit...

 

Why argue with anyone for verification when there are so many established (& "verified") companions around? Many local, and seemingly even more visiting in a fairly steady stream...

 

Just my unpopular opinion... 

Why argue with Sp's, you ask?

Its a power play, and always has been 

 

I started out new and naive, and jumped through the hoops, so I can attest that the ones who requested the most of me, usually don't book, or are extremely demanding clients because they think we don't know what's unsavory behaviour yet.

 

I did do the ridiculous plz pick me verify pics with the dates, or two fingers up, and all it did was waste my time, gain me stalkers or issues, and have more people asking for more pics because some people here like to gossip about us behind the scenes and now everyone knew that I fell for the pic collecting scam 😂

I even sent face pics.. It's been more than a decade - that was clearly unnecessary 

 

It was about power, and seeing how how we'll allow our boundaries to be pushed, before meeting, if they ever even booked.

 

This is why this behaviour will always be met with offense from the veteran sps here. We know where this goes and no ty

 

[Pamela Luscious 239]

48 minutes ago, MsManda said:

Why argue with Sp's, you ask?

Its a power play, and always has been 

 

I started out new and naive, and jumped through the hoops, so I can attest that the ones who requested the most of me, usually don't book, or are extremely demanding clients because they think we don't know what's unsavory behaviour yet.

 

I did do the ridiculous plz pick me verify pics with the dates, or two fingers up, and all it did was waste my time, gain me stalkers or issues, and have more people asking for more pics because some people here like to gossip about us behind the scenes and now everyone knew that I fell for the pic collecting scam 😂

I even sent face pics.. It's been more than a decade - that was clearly unnecessary 

 

It was about power, and seeing how how we'll allow our boundaries to be pushed, before meeting, if they ever even booked.

 

This is why this behaviour will always be met with offense from the veteran sps here. We know where this goes and no ty

 

There's so many amazing gentlemen out there who screen and follow our booking process without questions. They read out ads and websites and do proper research, they never been scammed. They treat us good and have an amazing time during the date. Why waste our time with the one's who give us headache with just booking lol...

[MikeyInHalifax 377]

Most men who are engaging in this behavior are woefully paranoid. 

 

If you're worried about being blackmailed maybe you shouldn't engage in dubious activities to begin with. 

 

The simple fact is that these ladies are already at a disadvantage. It is in your interest to make them feel comfortable and safe. If jumping through a few hoops isn't for you, then maybe this hobby isn't for you either.

 

There are plenty of ways to verify if an SP is real on your own without even asking.

[RobertDion 142]

Again, the initial conversation he started has conveniently gone unanswered. Exactly how does it make an SP feel more safe by them having a copy of my driver's licence?

Imagine I go onto a gift shop, browse around, pick out an item, go up to the cashier, I have my debit card out and she asks me for a credit check.... "a credit check? I can pay cash, I have it right here". "Nope, I need to check your credit score before we can make this transaction, you know, in case you want to rob me, I'm protected" -- I fail to see the logic in this.

Again, I don't to see how collecting and keeping a hobbyist's personal info protects the SP from violence. I found drakonis17's question to be a bit ridiculous, because just like Ms Manda pointed out, no SP in their right mind would do such a thing, heck half the ads on LL state "will not provide any more photos"   ... but I was just pointing out therealsweetier's hypocrisy in her response. Don't kid yourself too much their Mikey, you'll out yourself. Because let's not forget; we're the ones not allowed to ask questions, we're the ones paying the cash, we're the ones having to verify our identity, we're the ones paying deposits, we're the ones going to their locations, we're not the ones setting the prices, they are (as it should be), perhaps your've been lucky and you haven't been screwed over Mikey, wether it's a reputable agency or independant or not... but I'll call the BS when I see it, make no mistake.

There's no need to score brownie points with your virtue-signalling by saying they're already at a disadvantage. Not when they keep stacking up the claims that they're wanting deposits, and IDs and references and all this under the reasons of 'personal safety' --so let's CALM down---- let's not dig ourselves into a deeper hole. Because it looks like people are taking advantage of the situation in my eyes.

Think io it - To what end will this go? Why not just ask for all the money up front? If what you're saying is true, and they are at such a severe disadvantage, then why not demand MORE safety and assurance?? Ask for twice as much and for all of it to be e-transfered up front? If all SPs did this, would we not have no choice but to comply? You know, for the safety and reassurance of everyone? To make it fair? Yes? Since the economics of this and supply-and-demand seem to be irrelevant.

Why not evolve all this to its next logical step?

Yeah? No?

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31803]

59 minutes ago, RobertDion said:

Again, the initial conversation he started has conveniently gone unanswered. Exactly how does it make an SP feel more safe by them having a copy of my driver's licence?

Imagine I go onto a gift shop, browse around, pick out an item, go up to the cashier, I have my debit card out and she asks me for a credit check.... "a credit check? I can pay cash, I have it right here". "Nope, I need to check your credit score before we can make this transaction, you know, in case you want to rob me, I'm protected" -- I fail to see the logic in this.

Again, I don't to see how collecting and keeping a hobbyist's personal info protects the SP from violence. I found drakonis17's question to be a bit ridiculous, because just like Ms Manda pointed out, no SP in their right mind would do such a thing, heck half the ads on LL state "will not provide any more photos"   ... but I was just pointing out therealsweetier's hypocrisy in her response. Don't kid yourself too much their Mikey, you'll out yourself. Because let's not forget; we're the ones not allowed to ask questions, we're the ones paying the cash, we're the ones having to verify our identity, we're the ones paying deposits, we're the ones going to their locations, we're not the ones setting the prices, they are (as it should be), perhaps your've been lucky and you haven't been screwed over Mikey, wether it's a reputable agency or independant or not... but I'll call the BS when I see it, make no mistake.

There's no need to score brownie points with your virtue-signalling by saying they're already at a disadvantage. Not when they keep stacking up the claims that they're wanting deposits, and IDs and references and all this under the reasons of 'personal safety' --so let's CALM down---- let's not dig ourselves into a deeper hole. Because it looks like people are taking advantage of the situation in my eyes.

Think io it - To what end will this go? Why not just ask for all the money up front? If what you're saying is true, and they are at such a severe disadvantage, then why not demand MORE safety and assurance?? Ask for twice as much and for all of it to be e-transfered up front? If all SPs did this, would we not have no choice but to comply? You know, for the safety and reassurance of everyone? To make it fair? Yes? Since the economics of this and supply-and-demand seem to be irrelevant.

Why not evolve all this to its next logical step?

Yeah? No?

You do realize that YOU do have the choice not to see someone that requires a deposit or I.d right?

There are plenty of ladies that do not care to ask for one and you are welcome to see them 

And just because you are paying for our TIME doesn't mean we have to do whatever you want or say, I'd rather not see someone with that type of aggressive attitude

So sick of this back and forth bs about deposits and screening 😒 🙄 

 

 

 

[Pamela Luscious 239]

No one is trying to change your mind robert. Stay with your fear and leolist scam ads, we don't care...

 

Point is. As a client it's your job to do proper research before booking. And legitimate swers have a screening process. The end. Simple as that. 

[RobertDion 142]

On 9/1/2025 at 12:14 PM, Babygirl_brooklyn said:

Service providers get assaulted and murdered everyday. All it takes is a quick Google search and you’ll see this happens here in Canada, the US, and globally.
 

This is very much a real fear for us and I wouldn’t doubt almost every woman who’s posted here on Lyla, if not all, has been harmed, stalked, or assaulted by a client in some way. Don’t bother arguing with me on this forum, you aren’t changing my mind. I’m speaking from lived experience. 
 

What’s low, is denying that this is the reality of participating in this industry. 

Never denied it was a reality.

[RobertDion 142]

25 minutes ago, Pamela Luscious said:

No one is trying to change your mind robert. Stay with your fear and leolist scam ads, we don't care...

 

Point is. As a client it's your job to do proper research before booking. And legitimate swers have a screening process. The end. Simple as that. 

True enough, never argued against that.