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[Exotic Touch Danielle 31942]

On 3/7/2026 at 7:03 AM, minuteman06 said:

While the wording definitely could have been better, just to play devil's advocate for a second I can see where this conversation is coming from.  Of course in the end it is always up to the provider on what services they end up providing regardless of what was previously discussed but, for example:  I book a massage session with @Skilled Hands, show up, but never receive a massage.  It would leave you scratching your head and wondering why the massage didn't happen when that's what you booked looking forward to in the first place.

@Skilled HandsI was just using that as an example, in no way was I ever suggesting you've never provided the service(s) you

Say someone books me and wants daty, I agree and when he shows up his hygiene isn't looking to good 

I have the right to deny that service or any service if I feel uncomfortable 

And he can leave

[minuteman06 534]

10 hours ago, Exotic Touch Danielle said:

Say someone books me and wants daty, I agree and when he shows up his hygiene isn't looking to good 

I have the right to deny that service or any service if I feel uncomfortable 

And he can leave

That's exactly what I stated but the op was wondering why services were denied when he thought he had done everything right in preparation for the date.  Your example is an obvious one, no one would (or should) argue that and there are many other examples of the same situation.  Maybe the question is; did the op over inflate himself thinking he was squeaky clean and perfectly hygienic or was it a case of promises over communication pre visit where the woman had zero intentions all along of following through with anything.  The later could also be a case sometimes where just about anything is said to get the client there and either no intentions of follow through or at least not without an upcharge on the woman's part.

[Cjthomas 1649]

3 hours ago, minuteman06 said:

That's exactly what I stated but the op was wondering why services were denied when he thought he had done everything right in preparation for the date.  Your example is an obvious one, no one would (or should) argue that and there are many other examples of the same situation.  Maybe the question is; did the op over inflate himself thinking he was squeaky clean and perfectly hygienic or was it a case of promises over communication pre visit where the woman had zero intentions all along of following through with anything.  The later could also be a case sometimes where just about anything is said to get the client there and either no intentions of follow through or at least not without an upcharge on the woman's part.

All those scenarios happen. So in any one specific scenario when something isn’t provided who will you believe. The provider or client. That is why I don’t understand coming here and asking questions as to why a service wasn’t provided. Isn’t that provider the only one who can answer that truthfully? Anything else is just speculation. 

[Halifaxseeker 42]

What if this provider is doing the same thing with everyone just to reel them in they say they do whatever was agreed upon and once the session is started they say they can’t. That is not fair at all!

[Cjthomas 1649]

17 minutes ago, Halifaxseeker said:

What if this provider is doing the same thing with everyone just to reel them in they say they do whatever was agreed upon and once the session is started they say they can’t. That is not fair at all!

Who is everyone? 2 people, 5, 10, 30. Look I’m not defending false advertising or deceptive practices. But it’s still speculation. We don’t know the circumstances and each time someone visits with a provider only the provider and that client can tell what’s happened or not. So without both sides of the story it’s a he said she said situation. But go ahead and believe what makes you sleep better. If you haven’t discussed this with said provider you’re still making assumptions and speculating as to why YOU didn’t receive the services you sought.

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31942]

Can't believe half the shit that's posted on here anymore

Too many angry men and fake accounts saying anything now

 

I use to love it here not so much now

[LadiesFirst 900]

Did you ever feel like there is too much “ what’s in it for me” in society? 

Honestly, there is a lot of “i need my boxes checked” before going into a date, it starts out very transactional. Treating other human beings like a vending machine ,press the button, receive service. Maybe showing up trying to extract your predetermined experience is jeopardizing your chance at exactly what you are looking/hoping for?

 Worth a try to find someone you want to meet, whether from photos, the way she writes her ads, a combo of the two plus *A GOOD REPUTATION* Go with open mind and go curious about the other person and go comfortable with not knowing where things will go. 
 

So yeah, try leaving the checklist at home. Avoid trying to control and specify what you want from the date. Chemistry is hard to achieve, harder if you try to script it. Rather than going just to claim your specific , predetermined services/wants/needs- it’s an encounter, go encounter the person, let them be their authentic self in your presence. Perhaps you will have a richer experience. Embrace the unknown of where it will go.
 

Ideally also, if you’re able, book more than an hour to truly get to know each other a little better at first. 

could be worth a try if menus and shopping lists are not working out…

Just my 2 cents 

 

 

 

 
 

[RobertDion 201]

On 3/20/2026 at 8:34 PM, Exotic Touch Danielle said:

Say someone books me and wants daty, I agree and when he shows up his hygiene isn't looking to good 

I have the right to deny that service or any service if I feel uncomfortable 

And he can leave

Problem is, "some" providers take the money up front (as per normal) and decide 5 min later to deny services..... what then? 🤨 The point some are making is that it can be very arbitrary, and one-sided. Sure the reasons may be totally valid, but they may be totally bogus, made-up too, either way, the person who paid, is left sitting there, empty-handed. Try seeing it from our point-of-view, and you can see how it can be potentially unfair.
 

Yes, of course, you have the "right to refuse service", sure, OK, but after the provider paid up front? No difference to you, I suppose, you got paid for "your time". There's a big difference between the customer paying and having a couple hours of pleasure, versus just sitting there naked and confused, no action, all of a sudden - refused the service agreed upon -- the difference is... the total opposite of what the guy came over to do.... and then essentially forced to leave.  Just sayin'. Though the risks from the customers may be purely financial ones, there's a risk from the hobbyists' side too. Usually that door opens and the gamble is that the provider looks nothing like the photos, that happens A LOT, we just turn around and leave, problem solved (unless you paid a deposit online in advance). But when we lay there comfortable and then realize our money is taken and nothing is happening, well -- that's a different story.

 

This happens a lot more than providers realize.

[AdamSandler 387]

7 minutes ago, RobertDion said:

Problem is, "some" providers take the money up front (as per normal) and decide 5 min later to deny services..... what then? 🤨 The point some are making is that it can be very arbitrary, and one-sided. Sure the reasons may be totally valid, and they may be totally made-up too, either way, the person who paid, is left sitting there, empty-handed.

I think in this situation being described the provider should be more open and say "these are some things I offer but it will depend on hygiene" or something similar. I find this is pretty common when I speak to various SPs.

And if something like, in your example, daty is a required make or break service the person should re-confirm upon meeting the provider now that they have seen each other it will be offered because it's important to them. Maybe it's a breath issue and there's mouthwash in the bathroom so easy fix. But if the SP says no you can get that out of the way before any money is exchanged.

Although I'll admit I've had this in the past where I was promised everything. Confirmed it in person then handed over cash. Then with no clothes on I start being told everything costs extra. "There's an ATM down the hall though." I'm naked... The last thing I want to do is put clothes on and go get more cash then come back. Honesty is important.

[MsManda 26034]

11 minutes ago, AdamSandler said:

I think in this situation being described the provider should be more open and say "these are some things I offer but it will depend on hygiene" or something similar. I find this is pretty common when I speak to various SPs.

And if something like, in your example, daty is a required make or break service the person should re-confirm upon meeting the provider now that they have seen each other it will be offered because it's important to them. Maybe it's a breath issue and there's mouthwash in the bathroom so easy fix. But if the SP says no you can get that out of the way before any money is exchanged.

Although I'll admit I've had this in the past where I was promised everything. Confirmed it in person then handed over cash. Then with no clothes on I start being told everything costs extra. "There's an ATM down the hall though." I'm naked... The last thing I want to do is put clothes on and go get more cash then come back. Honesty is important.

Not regarding extras, but about the acronyms being offered or not

 

Hygiene should be a given

Ymmv because of hygiene etc in this industry, should be a given, not a complaint 

 

Just some noteworthy examples:

I have met a man who loved to daty and it was very important to him. He booked a longer appt, but when I arrived, his breath smelled like rotting gym shoes in a way that mouthwash could certainly not fix

 

He thought he was freshly showered etc 🤷 another shower wouldn't have helped 

Without giving more detail, I'm sure you can see how this made for an awkward time for all involved 

 

Many have been sent back to the shower, only to return to bed still dirty in the most necessary places, or take fake showers 

FAKE SHOWERS 😭 

 

So no, we can't be expected to provide every single service to every single person who asks. 

I've almost totally stopped agreeing to specifics beforehand now, and stress ymmv, because I had an entire year of people either pooping my bed, or having the most severe hygiene issues I've encountered in my whole career. 

That ended, but it was an entire year, every city I toured, because apparently the shit comes in waves 💩😭 

 

Y'all are worried about losing some cash on the gamble, but sps literally gamble their health and safety with every booking they accept.

 

It's actually in the community's best interest that us sps do decline some people some things that they want

 

We have to prioritize ourselves, just like you do ♥️ 

 

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31942]

56 minutes ago, RobertDion said:

Problem is, "some" providers take the money up front (as per normal) and decide 5 min later to deny services..... what then? 🤨 The point some are making is that it can be very arbitrary, and one-sided. Sure the reasons may be totally valid, but they may be totally bogus, made-up too, either way, the person who paid, is left sitting there, empty-handed. Try seeing it from our point-of-view, and you can see how it can be potentially unfair.
 

Yes, of course, you have the "right to refuse service", sure, OK, but after the provider paid up front? No difference to you, I suppose, you got paid for "your time". There's a big difference between the customer paying and having a couple hours of pleasure, versus just sitting there naked and confused, no action, all of a sudden - refused the service agreed upon -- the difference is... the total opposite of what the guy came over to do.... and then essentially forced to leave.  Just sayin'. Though the risks from the customers may be purely financial ones, there's a risk from the hobbyists' side too. Usually that door opens and the gamble is that the provider looks nothing like the photos, that happens A LOT, we just turn around and leave, problem solved (unless you paid a deposit online in advance). But when we lay there comfortable and then realize our money is taken and nothing is happening, well -- that's a different story.

 

This happens a lot more than providers realize.

Sorry not something I do! 

I have never fake advertised a service 

I let you know up front what I do not offer

But again, if you come and you have sores all over your mouth, D looking and not smelling right I most definitely will deny a service 

So that would be up to YOU to know better

I had someone book and come and his mouth was full of cold sores I immediately canceled the appointment 

Why should I return a deposit on a booking if you came in such condition?

You wasted my time

It's just common sense

 

 

[LadiesFirst 900]

13 minutes ago, MsManda said:

Many have been sent back to the shower, only to return to bed still dirty in the most necessary places, or take fake showers 

FAKE SHOWERS 😭 

lol 😂,  I mean ya did the work to get in it, grab the soap 🧼…..omg why? No shame

[AdamSandler 387]

12 minutes ago, MsManda said:

Not regarding extras, but about the acronyms being offered or not

 

Hygiene should be a given

Ymmv because of hygiene etc in this industry, should be a given, not a complaint 

 

Just some noteworthy examples:

I have met a man who loved to daty and it was very important to him. He booked a longer appt, but when I arrived, his breath smelled like rotting gym shoes in a way that mouthwash could certainly not fix

 

He thought he was freshly showered etc 🤷 another shower wouldn't have helped 

Without giving more detail, I'm sure you can see how this made for an awkward time for all involved 

 

Many have been sent back to the shower, only to return to bed still dirty in the most necessary places, or take fake showers 

FAKE SHOWERS 😭 

 

So no, we can't be expected to provide every single service to every single person who asks. 

I've almost totally stopped agreeing to specifics beforehand now, and stress ymmv, because I had an entire year of people either pooping my bed, or having the most severe hygiene issues I've encountered in my whole career. 

That ended, but it was an entire year, every city I toured, because apparently the shit comes in waves 💩😭 

 

Y'all are worried about losing some cash on the gamble, but sps literally gamble their health and safety with every booking they accept.

 

It's actually in the community's best interest that us sps do decline some people some things that they want

 

We have to prioritize ourselves, just like you do ♥️ 

 

Absolutely Ms Manda. All I mean, and again I'll stick with the daty example as that's just easy not to jump around but goes for any specific service and acronym. If daty is important to me all I want to know is that it is potentially on the table. If an SP doesn't offer it or doesn't enjoy it that is good upfront information and may mean I don't book. Of course some people are gross and will be denied service but knowing what might be available is also good. I have never left any 💩 stains and would be MORTIFIED if that happened. I remember you mentioning it in another thread and the last time i saw a provider i double checked the bed because your story made me paranoid even though I had thoroughly washed and cleaned myself twice lol

[MsManda 26034]

10 minutes ago, AdamSandler said:

Absolutely Ms Manda. All I mean, and again I'll stick with the daty example as that's just easy not to jump around but goes for any specific service and acronym. If daty is important to me all I want to know is that it is potentially on the table. If an SP doesn't offer it or doesn't enjoy it that is good upfront information and may mean I don't book. Of course some people are gross and will be denied service but knowing what might be available is also good. I have never left any 💩 stains and would be MORTIFIED if that happened. I remember you mentioning it in another thread and the last time i saw a provider i double checked the bed because your story made me paranoid even though I had thoroughly washed and cleaned myself twice lol

It's just tricky because yes, things can be on the table, but no, that doesn't mean that every encounter gets every single acronym.

Having a checklist doesn't allow things to flow as smoothly, and sometimes the flow doesn't hit every single acronym or request in 60 mins 🤷 

 

She also may enjoy certain things, but not with every person..

Some people bite and my experience matters too 😭😂 

 

 

Lol well I'm glad at least one person took my 💩 post to heart. 

Spread the good word (and those cheeks) hahhaha

 

 

[MsManda 26034]

28 minutes ago, Exotic Touch Danielle said:

Sorry not something I do! 

I have never fake advertised a service 

I let you know up front what I do not offer

But again, if you come and you have sores all over your mouth, D looking and not smelling right I most definitely will deny a service 

So that would be up to YOU to know better

I had someone book and come and his mouth was full of cold sores I immediately canceled the appointment 

Why should I return a deposit on a booking if you came in such condition?

You wasted my time

It's just common sense

 

 

 This part

 

And it happens more than the dudes here realize, I think 😭 

 

We're known for being a safer bet than random civvy hookups, but that also means we have to be responsible for our health and safety over everything, including men's requests sometimes

 

A lot of guys see ymmv as a cop out, but it's there for a reason 

 

 

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31942]

1 minute ago, MsManda said:

 This part

 

And it happens more than the dudes here realize, I think 😭 

 

We're known for being a safer bet than random civvy hookups, but that also means we have to be responsible for our health and safety over everything, including men's requests sometimes

 

A lot of guys see ymmv as a cop out, but it's there for a reason 

 

 

It's unfortunate some only think of themselves when seeing us

 

[AdamSandler 387]

6 minutes ago, MsManda said:

It's just tricky because yes, things can be on the table, but no, that doesn't mean that every encounter gets every single acronym.

Having a checklist doesn't allow things to flow as smoothly, and sometimes the flow doesn't hit every single acronym or request in 60 mins 🤷 

 

She also may enjoy certain things, but not with every person..

Some people bite and my experience matters too 😭😂 

 

 

Lol well I'm glad at least one person took my 💩 post to heart. 

Spread the good word (and those cheeks) hahhaha

 

 

Totally fair. And I don't like the idea of a checklist either but maybe there's one or two things which are important to me so I will mention them before and then may bring them up during a date. Chemistry is important as is hygiene and many other things. We are all human and we have to make decisions for ourselves.

Be respectful and be CLEAN people. Shouldn't need to be said...

[MsManda 26034]

Just now, Exotic Touch Danielle said:

It's unfortunate some only think of themselves when seeing us

 

I mean, that's kind of the point lol and I don't mind, it's part of being in the service industry 

 

But they should also consider the other person involved for such intimate things, if they want the best time possible

 

We're humans, not sexbots lol 

[AdamSandler 387]

4 minutes ago, MsManda said:

I mean, that's kind of the point lol and I don't mind, it's part of being in the service industry 

 

But they should also consider the other person involved for such intimate things, if they want the best time possible

 

We're humans, not sexbots lol 

Some people just think the minute they pay for something they own it. Not the case here. 

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31942]

4 minutes ago, MsManda said:

I mean, that's kind of the point lol and I don't mind, it's part of being in the service industry 

 

But they should also consider the other person involved for such intimate things, if they want the best time possible

 

We're humans, not sexbots lol 

And i get that

But at the same time I don't want to feel like a piece of property and not treated like a women and be respected 

I prefer making connections and us both enjoying our time together not just him 

 

[Timmy 92]

1 hour ago, MsManda said:

Many have been sent back to the shower, only to return to bed still dirty in the most necessary places, or take fake showers 

FAKE SHOWERS 😭 

 

 

 

Who the hell has such an aversion to water that they take fake showers?  Or am I missing something?  

[MsManda 26034]

6 minutes ago, Timmy said:

Who the hell has such an aversion to water that they take fake showers?  Or am I missing something?  

I think it's an act of protest at being told what to do lol 

Like they think we won't notice?

Or that it'll help their experience?

Idk man 😂 

 

It's not like we WANT to have to tell em to go back to the shower 😭 

[LadiesFirst 900]

Oh my

 the grass is always greener i suppose.  As one who fondly thinks of intimate time I always thought - Be pretty cool to be a companion…

Now though , all this talk of bad smells, shit stains, and cold sores. Fcuk me now I’m just thinking of dirty sheets, especially that one with no corners,  and all the washing and or throwing out said sheets and sterilizing myself and the awkward conversations of telling someone, fcuk no you dirty mf’er no acronym for you.

 

 Appreciate the work you do, good lord!

 

🤔 bedsheets s as a gift idea fellas

[Timmy 92]

2 minutes ago, MsManda said:

I think it's an act of protest at being told what to do lol 

Like they think we won't notice?

Or that it'll help their experience?

Idk man 😂 

 

It's not like we WANT to have to tell em to go back to the shower 😭 

I like being told what to do but different strokes!!

[MsManda 26034]

Just now, Timmy said:

I like being told what to do but different strokes!!

GO WASH YOUR ASS RIGHT NOW 😂