vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I have a two bed two bath luxury condo in dt Ottawa, very upgraded and well maintained building, now here is what I am thinking, I use only one bedroom and one bathroom for my hobbling purpose once or twice a week, I am just thinking if I can give the other room and washroom to a sp for living (not working in it) and in return get some private time with her only when she has free time. This way I will get some free company instead of an empty room and she will get a place to live for free. One fellow hobbyist told me it is a bad idea and don't even think about it but couldn't explain why, so I am throwing the question to all of you for advice, any pros and cons of it? Of course if I decide to give it to an SP I would have to like her and would sign an agreement for not using this property for their work. Any suggestions or warnings are welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Danger Will Robinson, DANGER... cat 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S****r Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Sounds like a bad idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I don't understand "is it dangerous for me" or you think my offer is dangerous for sp? Please elaborate. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 This scenario has "danger" written all over it for both parties. For you, understand that any provider willing to take this offer is in a desperate place. For her, living with a man with strings attached that if it goes left she's left on the street again. Too many variables to even go into scenarios. Just don't do it. Perhaps finding a male roommate or fellow hobbyist to chip in for the overhead is a better plan.. cat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Like I said I don't live there so technically it is not "living with a man". She could tolerate my hobbying activities more than anybody else because she herself is in this line of business. Anybody who doesn't like hobbying will not be happy sharing condo with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genevieve Marceau 68000 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Lol the first thing that popped in my mind is the SP saying to you: no not tonight I have a headache... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mister_crufty 4891 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Let me give you my perspective. I'm NOTORIOUSLY bad at making good decisions around here....I've made some awful faux pas and stupid posts and put my foot in my mouth on so many occasions it's ridiculous how I haven't been banned from the site. If this idea sounds bad, even to ME of all people, I can't imagine how it would be a good idea. I can't give you a single concrete reason but it just makes my brain fire on all cylinders imagining all the ways that this could go horribly wrong for you. But hey, you only live once and what the heck do I know? I'm simply a bear of very little brain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Lol the first thing that popped in my mind is the SP saying to you: no not tonight I have a headache... Can't I make it a part of the deal that she will have at least one session a week with me or the contract would be void. Just trying to find ways around all the assumptions:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A****y E*e 6175 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 This sounds like a great plot for a porn or an HBO show, but a very bad real life decision! That being said, if you decide to go through with it and find someone who's willing, it's a good idea to have a lot of very clear conversations about your expectations! Like: how many times a month do you expect to have sex? If it stops working, how long do they have to find a new place? Can they have sex with other people in your condo (partners, lovers, etc.)? If they get sick and are in bed with the flu for three weeks and can't have sex, will they still be allowed to live there? And so on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I'm sure with the right SP it could be an excellent arrangement but you need to find someone who is trustworthy, honors her word, responsible and appreciative of the opportunity. If you find a girl like this, chances are she can put a roof over her head on her own. The girls that this offer would attract would be more trouble than convenient. At $250 a session that would mean she's paying $1000 to $1250 a month depending, she could rent her own place for less and not have a man have a key which allows him to walk in anytime. Our living space is our sanctuary and needs to be a soft, safe place to land after a bad day. She would infact be sharing her space with you even if you don't live there. Again, a woman with the characteristics I've listed above would hesitate to place herself in this kind of arrangement with an unknown man. The two of you would need to have an excellent relationship before hand if you expect her to trust you enough to follow thru with this... cat 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genevieve Marceau 68000 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Can't I make it a part of the deal that she will have at least one session a week with me or the contract would be void. Just trying to find ways around all the assumptions:) Darling, if you want to live with a woman, get a bit of sex from her and officialize this with a contract, might as well just get married...joke joke! ;b But honestly, what if she doesn't respect the terms of your contract? Good luck fighting that in court...Don't forget that she would be considered as a tenant and therefore would have rights. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canuckhooker 19202 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I am surprised at the reaction to this. If you forget the fact the lady is an SP, it is a typical Sugar Daddy situation. Nothing strange about the arrangement, and actually quite common. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genevieve Marceau 68000 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I am surprised at the reaction to this. If you forget the fact the lady is an SP, it is a typical Sugar Daddy situation. Nothing strange about the arrangement, and actually quite common. Then a sugar baby would be a way much better option :) Sugar babies and SP are two completely different entities. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mister_crufty 4891 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I am surprised at the reaction to this. If you forget the fact the lady is an SP, it is a typical Sugar Daddy situation. Nothing strange about the arrangement, and actually quite common. Hmm...re-reading the original post, it sounds like the OP wouldn't be living there is that right? I suppose that might not be so bad...I first assumed they would be living together... Yikes. As Cat and others have said though, trying to find a girl you trust who isn't a train wreck and coming up with suitable terms and dealing with fall-out if you have to ask her to leave and.... Seems like a lot of trouble just to get some a few times a month. If you can afford to keep a luxury condo vacant, wouldn't it just be easier to go a-la-carte rather than signing up for the meal plan? :-D 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredsmith 5240 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I am surprised at the reaction to this. If you forget the fact the lady is an SP, it is a typical Sugar Daddy situation. Nothing strange about the arrangement, and actually quite common. Honestly I was wondering how the response would be to this thread, maybe not a hostile response but I thought some SP's might get insulted. But that is not the case, I think the response is very reasonable. What I'm reading is that the offer puts a lady in a vulnerable position. She moves into another guy's apartment, no contract, no guarantee that the guy might find another SP he likes better and kick the first SP out. As someone else mentioned it would probably attract a lady who is in a bit of a desperate situation, otherwise she wouldn't up end her life and move into such a vulnerable situation. Just a note: Why did your username change to canuck----- when I quoted you? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest s******ecan**** Report post Posted February 7, 2013 can't ever see it working out, not to mention the fact that you would technically be operating a "common bawdy house" and therefore liable for prosecution if the current laws are upheld. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I was going to mention the bawdy house issue too but the OP says clearly the arrangement would be that the SP will not be working there, so I am not sure it would qualify as a bawdy house unless the free accommodation for SP in exchange for services makes it a bawdy house but to my knowledge a bawdy house is a place of business where money is made for exchange of sexual services, no? If it wasn't for the variety factor and if it wasn't for the fact that I receive family visitor summer times I may have entertained that idea too (likely a dancer than SP), but then if so why not ask her to be a GF instead? or find one? The fact that she is an SP doesn't make it a bawdy house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 can't ever see it working out, not to mention the fact that you would technically be operating a "common bawdy house" and therefore liable for prosecution if the current laws are upheld. Without offending anybody I just want to mention that the agreement would dictate the SP not to work from my apartment so I don't see any reason for above concern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*****tte Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Besides the issues already mentioned the situation sounds a wee bit like a shared work space given that OP sees SPs there. The reality of that would be major time management so paths do not cross. Your roommate deserves privacy as do the SPs you see. So like our shared work spaces you'd need excellent communication between you two: calendars, colour coding, buffer times etc... Also there would need to be a contract about cleanliness and housekeeping. Oh, the laundry we do and I hope OP does if he even sees 1 SP per week in the space. What about social visits from friends and family? That would be a reasonable request on her part. Would hobbying take precedent over her sleep patterns? How much notice would be required? I am sure the list could go on and on. KISS applies here as in most situations. -- keep it simple sweetie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I am surprised at the reaction to this. If you forget the fact the lady is an SP, it is a typical Sugar Daddy situation. Nothing strange about the arrangement, and actually quite common. I totally agree, if you go to any sugar daddy site you will recognize many ladies who are current or former SPs and this arrangement is very common in that kind of relationship. You cannot dictate the sex life of your sugar baby so why not make an SP your sugar baby knowing that she wouldn't be using your apartment for work and you don't have to pay too much cause she is completely dependent on you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MightyPen 67414 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 I don't understand "is it dangerous for me" or you think my offer is dangerous for sp? Please elaborate. Thanks Dude. You'd be creating a situation where you exert power over her, and she's required to have sex with you according to a schedule or else you can threaten to take away her home. It wouldn't matter that you'd found someone foolish enough to sign such an agreement on some particularly dark day. What happens when she changes her mind about the service? What if you no longer "like" her? She has to leave her home because she's not servicing you? And what if she was so desperate that she had nowhere else to go and is afraid to say "no" or she'll be kicked out; she's now your monthly sex slave? Do not do this. Do not even consider putting another person in such a horrible situation. Additional Comments: why not make an SP your sugar baby knowing that ... you don't have to pay too much cause she is completely dependent on you. Oh for fuck's sake. 22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vs_81 606 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Dude. You'd be creating a situation where you exert power over her, and she's required to have sex with you according to a schedule or else you can threaten to take away her home. It wouldn't matter that you'd found someone foolish enough to sign such an agreement on some particularly dark day. What happens when she changes her mind about the service? What if you no longer "like" her? She has to leave her home because she's not servicing you? And what if she was so desperate that she had nowhere else to go and is afraid to say "no" or she'll be kicked out; she's now your monthly sex slave? Do not do this. Do not even consider putting another person in such a horrible situation. Additional Comments: Oh for fuck's sake. That's a very good point thanks for mentioning that, I was thinking that in this way I would be helping somebody to have a roof on her head but obviously what you said is true too. Thanks everybody for their suggestions and good advices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300291 Report post Posted February 7, 2013 Why don't you conventionally rent out the room to a conventional tenant Use your rental income to partake in this lifestyle This idea sounds bad. If the SP has to find a incall location since she can't use the condo , then she leaves the condo, (her "home" btw) to conduct business...remember, this for guys is an escape, but for the ladies, it is their livelihood, their work. Now everyone needs a place to go, a place they call home, to escape work and the outside world. Your proposed arrangement means for the lady who would accept it, when she is out she is likely practicing her profession. But when she comes to her so called "home" to her room in this condo, she needs to still be an SP, or risk being evicted (that's something nice hanging over her head always) so she has no escape from her working world Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds like you want a sexual partner you can control and she is completely dependent on you My vote, don't RG 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
budski 225 Report post Posted February 8, 2013 I agree with the others and definitely think it's a bad idea. On the surface, it sounds awesome. But when you really think about the setup and agreement - not cool. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
